Yep. Women want to be obey, it's natural for them. We are the leaders. If a man doesn't lead, she will resent him, simple as.
But men today do not demand it, that's the problem, so the women resent, and the cycle goes deeper and deeper until one day... it all comes crashing down. If the husband and father had been a real man and demanded his wife act properly and do her duty, none of this would happen.
I've been married almost 9 years, have 4 white children, and my wife obeys. I made her stop wearing yoga pants, I made her homeschool, among other things. She pushed back sometimes, but I stood my ground and held her feet to the fire. Heck, I even took her car keys away and debit card once for disobeying me. Guess what? She obeys me.
Women stop maturing at about 14 years old, and remain, mentally and emotionally, teenagers for the rest of their lives. For best results, treat them accordingly.
I've seen so many men try this and fail. Either non stop shit tests as she just won't quit or it sort of works until some are guy simps for her and she goes for the easy life.
Of course if they leave for the beta simp, they later get miserable and leave him and the cycle continues ubtil she's fat and on multiple meds
That debit card play was a massive risk for you. One police call and instantly you're fucked beyond words.
It's my account and my money. What's the cop going to say? You can't forbid your wife from blowing all your money?
No law was broken. Worst she can do is lie and say "psychological abuse", but at some point you have to take risks to put your foot down even in today's totally anti-father anti-husband atmosphere. If she wants to destroy her entire family over wearing yoga pants that's on her. I will not tolerate it.
Even better would be just switch your direct deposit to another bank account she doesn't have access to. ;)
If he as much as slaps her she can have the cops drag him away!
The women have used the civilization we built to cuck us.
They should lose the vote and be made property of men again.
We should be using women's shelters as a dumping ground for disobedient women until they decide to obey. Take away the comforts and luxury we provided for them until they understand they have nothing without us supplying it for them.
My now 3 year old daughter learned her ABCs a few months ago.
It sounds like this guy was living in the matrix for a long time, just took a massive red pill, and began to notice things around him. At least he is on the right track now. The idea is not to blame his wife but help her. After all, its a certainty that he just woke up himself.
Right, him raging and being passive aggressive is not going to fix it. He needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with her. He is just as much to blame as her for allowing his children to watch iPads all day.
Although it's mostly the woman's fault for disobeying her husband, he still needs to lead by example and not let emotion dictate how he acts. If it's been ten years and she still doesn't clean it sounds like he hasn't communicated to her very well her role as wife and mother. Sounds like they need to go to a traditional Catholic Church so she can see what it means to be a real submissive woman and wife with 8 kids like the ladies at my parish.
LOL, this is terrible advice. Yeah set yourself up for adultery and destroying the family and the children's love of their father. It's extremely passive aggressive behavior. You must have gotten this from marriedRedPill on reddit, those guys are literally insane.
Reverse psychology resentment is basically psychological abuse and is incredibly malicious. Making her jealous is not how you change her. She needs God and she needs to get right with God in order to understand her role as wife and mother.
He also needs to stop being whiney and be strong. Raging on the internet doesn't fix anything. He needs to be firm with his wife and stop being passive-aggressive. He can punish her in ways that won't cause divorce. But if she's not a serious Catholic, she's not going to take marriage seriously and will leave him anyway.
He has to lead by example and sacrifice, fast, and pray for her. That's the only true way to change someone for the better.
No competition works he is right. Women will all the time. It will be small things at first. A door mat some yard work, holiday decorations.
Now I don't think this guy actually yelled at her. I sometimes let things slide just to get my husband to say something and weirdly enough if he lets it go I get mad at him.
No way he yelled. That usually would put a woman into gear.
As for the her working? As soon as her money becomes their money she will stop. I've seen it before where if the man makes plenty the wife uses "her" money for her things which I think is bizarre.
I don't think wandering toast meant him make female friends I think they meant she needs to have a female come over.
A relative or maybe a neighbor. For sure once those play dates start rolling around she will be white glove testing her own house.
That's not "what works." It's such a weak backwards way of addressing a problem. It's something a female would do to try to get revenge on her boyfriend, by making out with some other guy at a party. Real men are above this type of catty behavior.
What works is being a man, stop retreating to the bedroom when things get a bit hot. Call her out on her laziness and holding her accountable, every single time, but gently, if that doesn't work, severely rebuke her in private, if that doesn't work then he could always say "I'm taking the children to my parents house for awhile" until she gets the picture.
She shouldn't be working, and he shouldn't allow her to. She should be homeschooling the children. This is almost entirely all his fault and now he's raging about it because his wife is not a perfect tradwife when in reality he created this atmosphere himself, he's in full control, he is the head of the family but is failing to use his authority to remedy the situation because he's allowed bad habits to form so long without correcting them.
He doesn't need to have females come over. He needs to get some perspective on what it means to be a husband and father and lead his wife in the proper direction to save her soul and the souls of his children. If he is so irritated by his kids watching iPads all day while his wife works her remote job, then he should take the ipads away, instead he just whines about it. He is not addressing the problem, just whining. A real man solves problems.
We have no idea about what's really going on based on a tiny 4chan screenshot. This guy could be the biggest wimp on earth and never corrects his wife, but let's it boil up inside then explodes on her when she doesn't clean up the kitchen immediately.
As far as I'm concerned, this guy has failed to educate his wife on what it means to be a proper wife and mother. It's his job. He is also leading his children to Hell by letting them have unfettered access to mobile devices. I see jacked white-dudes in my town all the time who care more about how they look and their truck than their own children. Just the other day I was leaving a hibachi place and a guy with this exact description allowed his two sons to be glued to ipads the entire time. Now who's fault is that? The mother? No. It's his. He's a pussy, he doesn't want to deal with what's hard. Telling your kids no.
That's why you go to Church and stop being a cultural agnostic modernist or a natsoc Pagan with no community. You don't need to bring "hot thots" into the mix for there to be social consequences. All you have to do is go to a traditional Catholic parish and you'll quickly realize that the men don't put up with the whore women who are lazy.
At my traditional Catholic parish (all in Latin, the women all veil and wear dresses, huge white families), we had a new family come from out of town. They moved here from Connecticut or something like that. The wife used to wear the most whorish dresses to mass, and 6 inch heels. They quickly got the message, granted they had 6 kids, and the wife was at least somewhat traditional in her duties, but still social consequences rack up quick.
We don't know this 4chan person or what their social life is like. But if you're hanging out with a bunch of retards all day and have no social life outside other retards, your wife is going to act like a retard to fit in with all the other retarded retard women who don't know their place.
You have to put yourself in the mix of the people you want to become. Using backwards psychological tactics is not the answer, it's changing yourself for the better, you do this by living your life according to God and embracing the virtues. If the 4chan poster is not virtuous, he's not going to instill virtue in his family no matter how much he wants to rage on 4chan, he's lazy, just like her. She is a reflection of him.
If you are deemed unattractive (not just physical) by society the wife will not find you attractive and will behave as such.
Even in the example you give...it's the woman bowing to a social / society opinion on her 'atractivnes'.
Picking an existing social group or order like a church is a good option and doesn't require exclusivity from other approaches and activities. But as much as it can provide a crutch, it can provide a weight upon you and carries with it a certain momentum
And yea try and avoid hanging around with dickheads.
I'm not disagreeing with what you wrote yes the man is the leader , the woman will reflect his priorities absolutely, however it sounds as if these people don't exactly have outside lives. Maybe he didn't know how bad it was until now and now that he has established how weak he is how is she going to listen to him?
Now if she sees other women and how they manage their shit then she'll see that he is right. They can have an argument about how he let shit slide and then move forward from that.
That's what bothers the fuck out of me right now ( changing course slightly) is this whole real home trend I'm seeing. Where people are showing their disgusting houses with toys dishes and laundry everywhere on the internet saying this is how a real lived in house looks. This type of behaviour is being normalized and it's appalling and all hidden under the guise of add, depression or the ever dreaded ugh bipolar.
I have almost the exact same story. My work days with commute were 11+ hours a day. She worked a few hours a day (maybe 5) less than a mile away. Her and her kids were just filthy. If she unwrapped or opened something she dropped the trash where she stood and it would stay there until I picked it up. Not only were they messy, they were filthy. Like anons story, the only space I had control over even slightly was the bedroom so I stayed in there when I was home. I spent as much time as I could on my days off on my bicycle which wasn't too bad. I got lots of exercise and got into great shape. Until she started yelling at me for never being home so I had to stop biking as much. This lead me into a deep depression from seeing the filth I lived in and no way to get away from. I started drinking... A lot!!! Became an alcoholic, most days having the first drink by noon. I knew I had a problem and begged her to stop bringing alcohol into the house so I wasn't tempted. She didn't stop. Problem got worse and worse. Life spiraled, marriage crumbled. At the lowest point in my life, she told me she was leaving me. Blessing in disguise. Divorced life is way better. My house is fairly clean now, I learned how to cook and I eat way better. I don't get laid anymore because I just don't have it in me to waste my time on another useless woman. The payoff just doesn't outweigh the negatives.
Like most modern men, he disregarded numerous red flags warning him to not allow the relationship to advance and is now paying the price most blue pill delusional minds must pay when they make their lives a living hell.
Welcome to monogamy, the worst marriage system except for all the others.
Of course you guys will try to extrapolate one lazy woman on to all women because this is a mgtow circle jerk, I know. But guys aint all princes, and they are not neater or more conscientious than women. If you dont want this, marry a dowdy girl thats a good housekeeper.
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew 20 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 05:09:02 ago (+21/-1)
[ + ] Boardallday3
[ - ] Boardallday3 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:21:54 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] ArnoBreker
[ - ] ArnoBreker 4 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:05:35 ago (+4/-0)
But men today do not demand it, that's the problem, so the women resent, and the cycle goes deeper and deeper until one day... it all comes crashing down. If the husband and father had been a real man and demanded his wife act properly and do her duty, none of this would happen.
I've been married almost 9 years, have 4 white children, and my wife obeys. I made her stop wearing yoga pants, I made her homeschool, among other things. She pushed back sometimes, but I stood my ground and held her feet to the fire. Heck, I even took her car keys away and debit card once for disobeying me. Guess what? She obeys me.
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 14:47:16 ago (+3/-0)
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[ + ] DivineLight2
[ - ] DivineLight2 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 16:26:54 ago (+0/-0)
Of course if they leave for the beta simp, they later get miserable and leave him and the cycle continues ubtil she's fat and on multiple meds
That debit card play was a massive risk for you. One police call and instantly you're fucked beyond words.
I'm glad it worked for you.
[ + ] ArnoBreker
[ - ] ArnoBreker 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 17:26:55 ago (+1/-0)
No law was broken. Worst she can do is lie and say "psychological abuse", but at some point you have to take risks to put your foot down even in today's totally anti-father anti-husband atmosphere. If she wants to destroy her entire family over wearing yoga pants that's on her. I will not tolerate it.
Even better would be just switch your direct deposit to another bank account she doesn't have access to. ;)
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks -1 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:32:57 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 5 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:04:19 ago (+5/-0)
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[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:07:10 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Bigdeal 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 14:00:32 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 9 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 06:22:48 ago (+9/-0)
[ + ] GeneralDisarray
[ - ] GeneralDisarray 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 16:14:32 ago (+0/-0)
The women have used the civilization we built to cuck us.
They should lose the vote and be made property of men again.
We should be using women's shelters as a dumping ground for disobedient women until they decide to obey. Take away the comforts and luxury we provided for them until they understand they have nothing without us supplying it for them.
[ + ] cb1
[ - ] cb1 6 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 06:38:59 ago (+6/-0)
It sounds like this guy was living in the matrix for a long time, just took a massive red pill, and began to notice things around him. At least he is on the right track now. The idea is not to blame his wife but help her. After all, its a certainty that he just woke up himself.
[ + ] ArnoBreker
[ - ] ArnoBreker 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 09:03:03 ago (+1/-1)
Although it's mostly the woman's fault for disobeying her husband, he still needs to lead by example and not let emotion dictate how he acts. If it's been ten years and she still doesn't clean it sounds like he hasn't communicated to her very well her role as wife and mother. Sounds like they need to go to a traditional Catholic Church so she can see what it means to be a real submissive woman and wife with 8 kids like the ladies at my parish.
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[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 11 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 07:03:23 ago (+12/-1)
Competition is king. Anons homelife lid backwards because waifu has no competition.
If he gets some female friends she will step up.
You can scream and shout and be a cunt over cleaning, nothing will change
You can try and control in other ways, nothing will change.
Have a fellow female come to the house while wife is there and make the tiniest of comments about how she likes to keep her house tidy....bam.
Crack the odd joke about how if you ever do decide to have an affair, it's her home making skills that will be the decider.
Also....if you want to achieve the same without the social engineering...
Hire a hot cleaner... And make sure that she works both when wife and you are home, and when just you are home
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 12 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 07:10:19 ago (+12/-0)
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 14:48:51 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ArnoBreker
[ - ] ArnoBreker 4 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 09:10:59 ago (+6/-2)
Reverse psychology resentment is basically psychological abuse and is incredibly malicious. Making her jealous is not how you change her. She needs God and she needs to get right with God in order to understand her role as wife and mother.
He also needs to stop being whiney and be strong. Raging on the internet doesn't fix anything. He needs to be firm with his wife and stop being passive-aggressive. He can punish her in ways that won't cause divorce. But if she's not a serious Catholic, she's not going to take marriage seriously and will leave him anyway.
He has to lead by example and sacrifice, fast, and pray for her. That's the only true way to change someone for the better.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 11:32:56 ago (+3/-0)
Now I don't think this guy actually yelled at her. I sometimes let things slide just to get my husband to say something and weirdly enough if he lets it go I get mad at him.
No way he yelled. That usually would put a woman into gear.
As for the her working? As soon as her money becomes their money she will stop. I've seen it before where if the man makes plenty the wife uses "her" money for her things which I think is bizarre.
I don't think wandering toast meant him make female friends I think they meant she needs to have a female come over.
A relative or maybe a neighbor. For sure once those play dates start rolling around she will be white glove testing her own house.
[ + ] ArnoBreker
[ - ] ArnoBreker 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:52:00 ago (+1/-0)
What works is being a man, stop retreating to the bedroom when things get a bit hot. Call her out on her laziness and holding her accountable, every single time, but gently, if that doesn't work, severely rebuke her in private, if that doesn't work then he could always say "I'm taking the children to my parents house for awhile" until she gets the picture.
She shouldn't be working, and he shouldn't allow her to. She should be homeschooling the children. This is almost entirely all his fault and now he's raging about it because his wife is not a perfect tradwife when in reality he created this atmosphere himself, he's in full control, he is the head of the family but is failing to use his authority to remedy the situation because he's allowed bad habits to form so long without correcting them.
He doesn't need to have females come over. He needs to get some perspective on what it means to be a husband and father and lead his wife in the proper direction to save her soul and the souls of his children. If he is so irritated by his kids watching iPads all day while his wife works her remote job, then he should take the ipads away, instead he just whines about it. He is not addressing the problem, just whining. A real man solves problems.
We have no idea about what's really going on based on a tiny 4chan screenshot. This guy could be the biggest wimp on earth and never corrects his wife, but let's it boil up inside then explodes on her when she doesn't clean up the kitchen immediately.
As far as I'm concerned, this guy has failed to educate his wife on what it means to be a proper wife and mother. It's his job. He is also leading his children to Hell by letting them have unfettered access to mobile devices. I see jacked white-dudes in my town all the time who care more about how they look and their truck than their own children. Just the other day I was leaving a hibachi place and a guy with this exact description allowed his two sons to be glued to ipads the entire time. Now who's fault is that? The mother? No. It's his. He's a pussy, he doesn't want to deal with what's hard. Telling your kids no.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:10:37 ago (+2/-0)
Men respond to inate beauty.
A woman who finds her man attractive will no longer do so if 90% of society and her friends say he's not.
A tribe with 1 woman it is a tribe with a fat lazy woman in it.
Right now his wife is the only woman in the tribe, therefore she is the best and most attractive and sexy woman.
This will have been re-enforced by the ((media))
She is taking her man for granted - and that is a really good way to get your partner taken.
I'm not advising he start partying with Thor's, but he needs to introduce some other fish into the pond.
Is nothing to do with being passive aggressive or trying to make people jealous.
It's about using the fact that women are more likely to be influenced by societal norms.
[ + ] ArnoBreker
[ - ] ArnoBreker 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 14:58:31 ago (+1/-0)
At my traditional Catholic parish (all in Latin, the women all veil and wear dresses, huge white families), we had a new family come from out of town. They moved here from Connecticut or something like that. The wife used to wear the most whorish dresses to mass, and 6 inch heels. They quickly got the message, granted they had 6 kids, and the wife was at least somewhat traditional in her duties, but still social consequences rack up quick.
We don't know this 4chan person or what their social life is like. But if you're hanging out with a bunch of retards all day and have no social life outside other retards, your wife is going to act like a retard to fit in with all the other retarded retard women who don't know their place.
You have to put yourself in the mix of the people you want to become. Using backwards psychological tactics is not the answer, it's changing yourself for the better, you do this by living your life according to God and embracing the virtues. If the 4chan poster is not virtuous, he's not going to instill virtue in his family no matter how much he wants to rage on 4chan, he's lazy, just like her. She is a reflection of him.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 18:05:15 ago (+0/-0)
If you are deemed unattractive (not just physical) by society the wife will not find you attractive and will behave as such.
Even in the example you give...it's the woman bowing to a social / society opinion on her 'atractivnes'.
Picking an existing social group or order like a church is a good option and doesn't require exclusivity from other approaches and activities. But as much as it can provide a crutch, it can provide a weight upon you and carries with it a certain momentum
And yea try and avoid hanging around with dickheads.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:18:39 ago (+0/-0)
Now if she sees other women and how they manage their shit then she'll see that he is right. They can have an argument about how he let shit slide and then move forward from that.
That's what bothers the fuck out of me right now ( changing course slightly) is this whole real home trend I'm seeing. Where people are showing their disgusting houses with toys dishes and laundry everywhere on the internet saying this is how a real lived in house looks. This type of behaviour is being normalized and it's appalling and all hidden under the guise of add, depression or the ever dreaded ugh bipolar.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:39:52 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:55:23 ago (+0/-0)
Oh and excuse me...are you really pulling the " not all women are like that"? a "man"? Uh oh .
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:56:49 ago (+0/-0)
I must've hit a nerve lol
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:01:24 ago (+0/-0)
Haha I didn't realize you were kotex kin.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:03:52 ago (+0/-0)
Better change yours, I dont want you getting toxic shock syndrome
Youre cranky enough when healthy
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:22:47 ago (+0/-0)
Your welcome.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:23:38 ago (+0/-0)
This pleases me
[ + ] Boardallday3
[ - ] Boardallday3 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:22:57 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:11:10 ago (+0/-0)
If a man finds a woman attractive - while 90% of society does not, and even his friends make fun of him...he will still find her attractive.
Men respond to inate beauty.
A woman who finds her man attractive will no longer do so if 90% of society and her friends say he's not.
A tribe with 1 woman it is a tribe with a fat lazy woman in it.
Right now his wife is the only woman in the tribe, therefore she is the best and most attractive and sexy woman.
This will have been re-enforced by the ((media))
She is taking her man for granted - and that is a really good way to get your partner taken.
I'm not advising he start partying with Thor's, but he needs to introduce some other fish into the pond.
Is nothing to do with being passive aggressive or trying to make people jealous.
It's about using the fact that women are more likely to be influenced by societal norms
[ + ] ted754
[ - ] ted754 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 07:14:43 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] MuricaPersonified
[ - ] MuricaPersonified 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:57:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 6 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 07:09:19 ago (+6/-0)
Has two kids with her.
Consequences for mistakes made. Suck it up.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 07:35:21 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] ShitAlt
[ - ] ShitAlt 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 08:54:55 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] noonefromnowhere
[ - ] noonefromnowhere 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 09:41:27 ago (+3/-0)
Sure, sure.
[ + ] Conspirologist
[ - ] Conspirologist [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 09:56:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ThisGuy
[ - ] ThisGuy 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 09:50:25 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] carnold03
[ - ] carnold03 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 10:05:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 10:35:10 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] dulcima
[ - ] dulcima 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 11:54:57 ago (+0/-0)
But these sort of posts never ever offer a solution than an opportunity to bitch and moan.
Women weren't always like this. How to fix it is the issue.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 12:32:18 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 13:03:49 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 23, 2022 17:54:29 ago (+0/-0)
Of course you guys will try to extrapolate one lazy woman on to all women because this is a mgtow circle jerk, I know. But guys aint all princes, and they are not neater or more conscientious than women. If you dont want this, marry a dowdy girl thats a good housekeeper.