top:
day week month all

EconomicCollapse

Community for : 4.2 years



Owner: MrGoat

Mods:












-5
Debunked: Trump's tariffs raise prices for Americans, not foreign countries     (www.msnbc.com)
submitted by Sal_180 to EconomicCollapse 9 months ago (+0/-5)
9 comments last comment...
2
Russia, Trade Partners Build Alternative Payments Systems Circumventing US Dollar     (sputnikglobe.com)
submitted by boekanier to EconomicCollapse 9 months ago (+2/-0)
4 comments last comment...
12
Americans are still shopping - they’re just going to Walmart     (www.kwwl.com)
submitted by Spaceman84 to EconomicCollapse 10 months ago (+12/-0)
13 comments last comment...
16
Retail Insights      (EconomicCollapse)
submitted by __47__ to EconomicCollapse 10 months ago (+16/-0)
39 comments last comment...
Inspired by @isnark I would like to give you full analysis of the current retail landscape in the US.

My credentials if you believe them are over 20 years in mainstream retail and independent. A lot of time I spent in second hand retail. Not a pawn shop but similar. The store carried all things entertainment. Movies, music, electronics, books and toys. This will matter later. Customers could obtain cash or in store credits to buy more. While never directly competing with big box retail there was a way to carve out millions in sales a year.

What I handled was their IT infrastructure and buying from the customers everything that wasn't a book or on a disc. So the sky was the limit. I also had many years buying media and books as well so I could do anything.

Let's get to meat. Big box retail's days are numbered. Walmart has a vice grip on standard brick and mortar operations while Amazon has the grip on online retail. We all know that here. Target will be the next to go imo. Suddenly the shop started getting flooded with brand new vinyl records that were target exclusives. Multiple copies. I spoke to one of my buddies that owns a record shop. He said, and this is hear say so take it how you will, told me that Target was refusing shipments to independent truckers and giving the merchandise in the trailers as payment. These coincide with high theft products from the stores as well. Target thinks they can survive off their grocery offerings which is laughable at best. Along with bad PR, huge spaces, giant payroll costs they're toast. Combined with unmitigated theft will sink them fast. This is the problem with a lot of big boxes along with not having government agents to help lobby for you like Walmart does. A typical Target likely has a rent bill of well over $50k a month. That's just the tip of the iceberg. When I worked a corporate retail job our average price per sale needed to be around $20 to keep the machine moving. If it was consistently under that we'd go out of business.

Theft. We all here know it. Where I worked it wasn't uncommon on Wednesday to see the latest movies in the shop. These weren't being stolen from the sales racks but by groups of employees (guess the race.) They would loot the back end while the front end got looted as well. Of course slaps on the wrist and probation for said offenders didn't deter these folks. Many times once a ring was broken others would fill that space. The low IQ would always think it's an easy payday. $1000s a week to steal from your place of work. The thing is they're also stealing low margin items. Clothing, food, and other supplies are cheap. Unless your buying millions a new video game at wholesale will cost $55. To sell for $60. Facts. The amount of people that get a slice of the pie when it comes to media raises the wholesale cost quite a bit. They also enjoyed stealing toys. Namely Legos. Big upfront cost for a consumer, big payout second hand. A lot of these niggers were funding their drug operations and it was obvious based on the smell of blunt weed on the items. Try as you might banning them from selling they would find another mule and another. Cops didn't give one shit about it either. They would come by when Johnny stole from dad and sold his records but never when it came to the criminal rings.

So these retail places are burning the candle at both ends. They may fire staff but the next will do the same thing.

I'm done ranting for now but ask me anything and I'll respond as best as I can
12
Big Lots is closing up to 315 stores. Here's where.     (www.cbsnews.com)
submitted by iSnark to EconomicCollapse 10 months ago (+12/-0)
16 comments last comment...
11
US national debt tops $35 trillion     (www.rt.com)
submitted by boekanier to EconomicCollapse 10 months ago (+11/-0)
6 comments last comment...
3
If you can believe it, there are now 237 U.S. cities where “buyers will find a price tag of $1 million or more on the typical starter home”…     (www.zerohedge.com)
submitted by Sector2 to EconomicCollapse 10 months ago (+3/-0)
3 comments last comment...
4
The Shills Will Say Anything These Days. End of Times     (nypost.com)
submitted by TheBigGuyFromQueens to EconomicCollapse 11 months ago (+4/-0)
3 comments last comment...
https://nypost.com/2024/07/05/business/netflix-real-estate-expert-urges-buyers-in-new-direction-that-could-disrupt-entire-housing-market/

First off, housing prices have always been artificially inflated by Realtors. I don’t understand how the demand for housing here is so great when probably at least a couple hundred thousand people have left over the past 3 years for Florida and other places.

Secondly, that shill is a fucking retard. Buy COMMERCIAL? Now you have to pay even higher taxes. There are small storefronts and large storefronts all over NYC that have been abandoned for at least 2 years. I have one in my neighborhood that is an old bank that’s been sitting there for probably 6 years. Probably 1 in every 8 small storefronts is unoccupied and a decent number of big ones that used to house drug stores, banks and outlet stores are boarded up. So who the fuck it going to rent from you?
2
The world is sitting on a $91 trillion problem. ‘Hard choices’ are coming     (edition.cnn.com)
submitted by paul_neri to EconomicCollapse 11 months ago (+2/-0)
12 comments last comment...
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/02/economy/global-debt-crisis/index.html

Debt burdens have grown so large — in part because of the cost of the pandemic — that they now pose a growing threat to living standards even in rich economies, including the United States.
2
Trump Media shares plunge 17% with newly available DJT shares set to dilute stock value     (www.cnbc.com)
submitted by Sal_180 to EconomicCollapse 12 months ago (+3/-1)
1 comments last comment...
6
I joined the workforce full-time 32 years ago. My wage was $4.15. I believe minimum was $4.00.     (nypost.com)
submitted by TheBigGuyFromQueens to EconomicCollapse 1 year ago (+6/-0)
21 comments last comment...
https://nypost.com/2024/06/11/business/in-n-out-hikes-prices-thanks-to-californias-new-20-minimum-wage/

Well, now we're going to eat $30 burgers. At least a nigger is less likely to spit in them now. They will probably be made of ground roach wings, though.
14
'A crisis is about to happen': $929 billion in commercial real estate debt is about to come due     (www.msn.com)
submitted by Scyber to EconomicCollapse 1.1 years ago (+14/-0)
18 comments last comment...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/a-crisis-is-about-to-happen-929-billion-in-commercial-real-estate-debt-is-about-to-come-due-will-america-s-regional-banks-survive-the-storm/ar-BB1m5EyB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3d4b1257be7c4b48a1224ab4e5cc703b&ei=12

One-fifth, or $929 billion, of the $4.7 trillion of outstanding commercial mortgages held by U.S. lenders and investors will come due in 2024, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA)’s 2023 Commercial Real Estate (CRE) Survey of Loan Maturity Volumes.
3
Welcome to the white-collar recession: The more you earn, the harder it is to find a job right now     (www.businessinsider.com)
submitted by iSnark to EconomicCollapse 1.1 years ago (+3/-0)
0 comments...
https://www.businessinsider.com/hiring-slump-professional-white-collar-jobs-recession-high-salary-2024-4?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

"Over the past year or so, pretty much everyone who's looked for a job has told me the same thing: The job market is brutal right now. They've applied to dozens if not hundreds of openings, only to get one or two callbacks. No one's hiring, they tell me. I've never seen it this bad."
1
The Silent Depression     (www.youtube.com)
submitted by we_kill_creativity to EconomicCollapse 1.1 years ago (+2/-1)
0 comments...
-1
Trump Media shares close down more than 14%, company says Truth Social to launch TV streaming     (www.cnbc.com)
submitted by Sal_180 to EconomicCollapse 1.2 years ago (+1/-2)
0 comments...
-1
Trump Media shares plunge more than 15% after company files to issue additional DJT stock     (www.cnbc.com)
submitted by Sal_180 to EconomicCollapse 1.2 years ago (+0/-1)
6 comments last comment...
14
Federal Trade Commission sued to block a proposed merger between grocery giants Kroger and Albertsons     (kdvr.com)
submitted by RobertJHarsh to EconomicCollapse 1.3 years ago (+14/-0)
2 comments last comment...
6
Germany’s economy is dying. Here’s why and what happens next     (www.rt.com)
submitted by boekanier to EconomicCollapse 1.4 years ago (+7/-1)
2 comments last comment...
1
US weapons exports up 50 percent in 2023 as Washington challenges Russia, China      (www.politico.com)
submitted by mxcviel to EconomicCollapse 1.4 years ago (+1/-0)
1 comments last comment...
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/29/us-foreign-arms-sales-russia-china-00138390

American defense companies racked up $81 billion in new foreign military sales last year, a more than 50 percent increase from 2022, with huge deals spurred by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine leading the way.

The biggest deals were sales to Poland and Germany. Those sales come as the war in Ukraine rages on, raising fears about Moscow’s potential to target other countries.

4
jobs at risk     (businessam.be)
submitted by boekanier to EconomicCollapse 1.4 years ago (+4/-0)
2 comments last comment...
4
Canada stuck in ‘population trap'     (www.theglobeandmail.com)
submitted by boekanier to EconomicCollapse 1.4 years ago (+4/-0)
1 comments last comment...
4
Oh Silly Goys - It's NOT a Recession, It Just FEELS Like One     (www.wsj.com)
submitted by Scyber to EconomicCollapse 1.4 years ago (+4/-0)
1 comments last comment...
https://www.wsj.com/economy/it-wont-be-a-recession-it-will-just-feel-like-one-1919267a

When did this trend of gaslighting and insulting people's intelligence become the norm in news reports?
18
Banks Terminate 60,000 Workers In One Of The Bleakest Years For The Industry Since 2008     (www.infowars.com)
submitted by iSnark to EconomicCollapse 1.5 years ago (+18/-0)
7 comments last comment...
https://www.infowars.com/posts/banks-terminate-60000-workers-in-one-of-the-bleakest-years-for-the-industry-since-2008/

The collapse of three US regional banks – First Republic Bank, Silicon Valley Bank, and Signature Bank – marked some of the largest failures in the banking system since 2008. Central banks contained the “mini-crisis” earlier this year with forced interventions and the mega-merger of Credit Suisse and UBS. Despite the interventions, global banks still axed the most jobs since the global financial crisis.
3
The Great Taking puts forth a warning that a virtually unknown entity called “The Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation” (DTCC) is effectively the “owner” of all the publicly traded companies in the world, and in fact all debt-based assets of any kind     (www.youtube.com)
submitted by we_kill_creativity to EconomicCollapse 1.5 years ago (+4/-1)
5 comments last comment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk3AVceraTI

TL;DR: https://voxday.net/2023/12/26/the-great-taking/

The Great Taking
A short book warns of the sinister, but desperate plan that underlies all of Clown World’s various projects, from the World Economic Forum and the Covid vaxxes to Global Warming, the invasion of Gaza, and Operation Prosperity Guardian.

The Great Taking puts forth a warning that a virtually unknown entity called “The Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation” (DTCC) is effectively the “owner” of all the publicly traded companies in the world, and in fact all debt-based assets of any kind:

“It is about the taking of collateral (all of it), the end game of the current globally synchronous debt accumulation super cycle. This scheme is being executed by long-planned, intelligent design, the audacity and scope of which is difficult for the mind to encompass.

Included are all financial assets and bank deposits, all stocks and bonds; and hence, all underlying property of all public corporations, including all inventories, plant and equipment; land, mineral deposits, inventions and intellectual property. Privately owned personal and real property financed with any amount of debt will likewise be taken, as will the assets of privately owned businesses which have been financed with debt.”

Over the course of the book, the author describes a 50-year process by which ownership of shares in public companies, and all debt collateral has been “dematerialized”.

In the olden days, you invested in a company – they gave you physical share certificates – and you were now part owner of the company. This is still how many value investors including me think of stock ownership.

We’re not invested in all of these companies in The Bitcoin Capitalist Portfolio simply because we’re trying to time the oscillations in the price movements. We think of ourselves as partial owners of these businesses.

Michael Saylor, Brian Armstrong, Mike Novogratz, Frank Holmes, Jamie Leverton et al, aren’t just celebrity CEOs in this space (Bitcoin)… they’re our partners. Granted, we’re the minority partners, silent ones, betting the jockeys and just along for the ride; but we don’t think of these positions as just stock charts and price gyrations – we think of them as businesses in which we are part owners.

At least I do.

According to The Great Taking, author David Rogers Webb, this is not true. We don’t own small pieces of these companies, we own claims on those pieces, because – over the course of decades, through the exigencies of ever-increasing trading volumes, combined with the machinations behind the scenes of diabolical manipulators – stock ownership has been supplanted by “security entitlements”.

Webb posits that when the debt super-cycle culminates in its ultimate blow up; the trap will be sprung, and actual ownership over all these companies and assets will be subsumed by the clearing houses. An infinitesimal cadre of elites will effectively own everything, and the masses of the world will be reduced to serfdom.

It’s not actually that difficult to postulate; I always considered it a patently obvious risk. This is precisely why I have always warned everyone to stay COMPLETELY out of debt. You can look it up. It’s been obvious since 2002 that there is far more debt, and claims of ownership to that debt, than there is of physical collateral for the debt, and that’s before we even take into account any of the conspiracy theories that HUMAN BEINGS or their lifetime economic potential are somehow being utilized as collateral for state currency debt.

As long ago as 2008, it was already estimated that there were $100 of debt claims on every actual $1 of collateral value. That figure is almost certainly higher today.

The global credit economy rests entirely upon the idea that the foundation of debts upon which it rests will never be called in. As Paul Samuelson wrote in what is quite literally the system’s textbook, Economics: An Introductory Analysis, “what difference does it make if Paul owes Peter or Peter owes Paul?”

Well, it makes a tremendous difference if everyone on the planet owes one person, or one small group of people, particularly if the ultimate holder of all debt in the world is an evil, sociopathic devil worshiper with an endless hatred of the human race.


Now, it’s not quite as bad as most of these dire economic conspiracy theorists make things out to be, because as we have been learning since 2015, the Lords of Debt are discovering the limits of money power, as are the nationalist resistance. There is a very good reason that first Iran, then China, and then Russia, all of whom were locked out of the Clown World economy, have gone from seeking to participate in the system to actively waging war against it.

The book’s author appears to have noticed the same thing:

“The “control system” has entered collapse. Their power has been based on deception. Their two great powers of deception, money and media, have been extremely energy-efficient means of control. But these powers are now in rampant collapse. This is why they have moved urgently to institute physical control measures. However, physical control is difficult, dangerous and energy-intensive. And so, they are risking all. They are risking being seen. Is this not a sign of desperation?“

I suspect that reason for the rise of BRICS and The Great Bifurcation of the global economy is that important and influential individuals in the relevant nations did the math and realized that debt is, at best, a good way to lose everything you own, and at worst, a form of legal slavery. Debt can take down even the largest, oldest companies literally overnight; imagine what it can do to entire nations that find themselves awash in it and vulnerable to physical foreclosures.

Anyhow, read the book, and then focus on what you can do to ensure that when the credit system crashes, either naturally of its own weight or as a result of economic warfare, you do not find yourself stripped of everything you need to survive. And don’t forget that money in the bank is not savings, but rather, debt that the bank owes to you, and which will not be repaid in the event of a bank failure.

It’s true that a lot of economic pessimists, including me, have missed out on tremendous opportunities over the last forty years. However, it is very healthy to live modestly and below one’s potential means, and the probabilities that the Clown World system is coming to an end have never been higher.

4
I want to put a fine point on the difference between (((GDP))) and GNP.     (EconomicCollapse)
submitted by we_kill_creativity to EconomicCollapse 1.5 years ago (+5/-1)
0 comments...
From a comment I made that I think deserves to be its own post:

A decline in national GDP is a recession.

national GDP

The rest of your comment is great, but I want to focus in on the specific part I quoted, because people really don't understand the importance of your use of the word "national" to qualify a specific sort of GDP.

Before we had (((economists))), we had actual economists, and those actual economists never used GDP, but, rather, GNP. GDP = Gross Domestic Product. GNP = Gross National Product. You should never have to say "national GDP". You should just used GNP.

Why the (((change))) from GNP to GDP? Mass...fucking...immigration...

A spic crosses the boarder and works for a period of time and "produces some product", but he aint a part of this nation, yet he is domiciled here, or put another way, is a domestic....so he produces a domestic product with his labor. Here's the bitch of it though...he sends as much of it back to Mexico as he possibly can. So we can have the GDP grow and grow and grow, but it doesn't mean it's helping our GNP at all. But why would (((they))) care? This isn't (((their))) nation anyways, is it...?

Link: https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=6586fbffbe5c8&commentid=65883b6276b96

Merry fucking Christmas...