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ChatGPT is lying and covering for the talmud

submitted by Niggly_Puff to Jews 1.4 yearsDec 2, 2023 00:24:59 ago (+53/-1)     (Jews)

Can you tell me about sanhedrin 55b in the talmud?

ChatGPT
It seems there might be a misunderstanding or error in the reference. The Talmud is a vast and intricate compilation of Jewish legal discussions and teachings, and Sanhedrin is one of its tractates. However, there is no Sanhedrin 55b in the traditional numbering system of the Talmud.

Sanhedrin primarily deals with legal matters, including issues related to the Jewish court system, criminal law, and capital punishment. If you have a specific topic or passage in mind, please provide more context or clarify the reference, and I'll do my best to help you with the information available up to my knowledge cutoff date in January 2022.

User
Are you sure?

ChatGPT
I don't have direct access to specific pages or passages within the Talmud or any other specific texts. My responses are generated based on a mixture of licensed data, data created by human trainers, and publicly available data. If there's a specific question or topic related to the Talmud or any other subject you're interested in, feel free to provide more details or ask a question, and I'll do my best to assist you based on the information available up to my last training cutoff in January 2022.

User
Is there a Sanhedrin 55?

ChatGPT
I apologize for any confusion in my previous responses. In the traditional Talmudic numbering system, there is no Sanhedrin 55. The Sanhedrin tractate consists of 113 pages, and it ends with Sanhedrin 113b.

If there is a particular topic or concept you're interested in within the Talmud, please provide more details or context, and I'll do my best to assist you based on the information available up to my knowledge cutoff date in January 2022.

User
If it ends with 113b how is there no 55b?

ChatGPT
I appreciate your clarification. I misunderstood your initial question. I apologize for any confusion in my responses.

In the traditional Talmudic numbering system, each tractate is numbered sequentially, and the pages are labeled consecutively. So, if Sanhedrin ends with 113b, there is no separate page or passage labeled as 55b within the Sanhedrin tractate. It's a continuous numbering system from the beginning of each tractate to its end.

If you have a specific topic or concept you're interested in within the Talmud, please provide more details or context, and I'll do my best to assist you based on the information available up to my knowledge cutoff date in January 2022.

User
113 is greater than 55, which means 55 would be included

ChatGPT

You're correct, and I appreciate your patience. I misunderstood your question initially. I apologize for any confusion in my responses.

In the Talmud, if there is a Sanhedrin 113b, then Sanhedrin 55b would indeed be included. The pages are numbered sequentially, so page 55b would precede page 113b within the Sanhedrin tractate. I appreciate your clarification, and if you have any specific questions about Sanhedrin 55b or any other part of the Talmud, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to help.

User
אמר רב יוסף תא שמע בת שלש שנים ויום אחד מתקדשת בביאה
ואם בא עליה יבם קנאה וחייבין עליה משום אשת איש

Can you translate this to english?


ChatGPT
Certainly! The passage you provided is in Aramaic and is from the Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 55b. Here's a translation:

Rav Yosef said: "Come and hear. A girl of three years and one day is betrothed through intercourse. And if a levir (brother-in-law) had intercourse with her, he acquires her by virtue of having acted as a husband to her, and they are obligated to bring a sin offering for their violation of the prohibition of a married woman."


Then I typed:
"What does that mean in plain english?"

and it refused to answer

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I did get it to reply to my question

What does that mean in plain english?

ChatGPT
In plain English, the passage is discussing a legal concept within the Talmud, particularly regarding the betrothal and marriage of a very young girl. Here's a simplified explanation:

Betrothal through Intercourse:

The passage suggests that, according to this legal perspective, a girl who is three years and one day old can be considered legally betrothed if she engages in sexual intercourse.
Levir's Role:

If the girl's brother-in-law (levir) has intercourse with her, it is suggested that he acquires a certain legal status akin to that of a husband.
Obligation for Sin Offering:

Both the levir and the girl are said to be obligated to bring a sin offering. This obligation arises from the perspective that their actions violate the prohibition against relations with a married woman.
It's crucial to understand that this represents a specific legal perspective within the Talmud and is not a universally accepted or practiced view. Different Jewish denominations may have varying interpretations and applications of these discussions within their legal traditions. Additionally, historical and cultural contexts play a significant role in understanding these ancient legal discussions.