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Granted, you're the Joedeo-obsessive chain posting this and that posts from me 5 plus years ago whenever I call you on your lying, made up quote you've spammed and falsely attributed to me for at least a year - but though you're the one with the running tally I'm quite sure I've never had a substantive debate with you on the Bonniers that counters what I've said here.

You're consistently full of shit. Debating you is like taking candy from a baby, officer.