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Joe_McCarthy
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Tehran: Israel targets Iranian civilians with US-supplied weapons; negotiations ‘meaningless’

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/16/749951/Israel-attacks-Iran-using-US-supplied-weapons-FM-spokesperson


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Israel asks Iran, through intermediaries, to stop attacks, return to nuclear talks: US media

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/16/749955/Iran-Israel-attacks-nuclear-talks-US


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https://cdn.presstv.ir/Photo/2025/6/16/d0613d37-3cec-4080-b032-b5f734ebbf24.bmp

The image shows extensive damage in occupied city of Bnei Brak, east of Tel Aviv that was hit by Iranian missile on Monday June 16, 2025.


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Israel's smaller, sophisticated military opposes larger Iran

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2lxkpekedo


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Iran sought US pressure on Israel for ceasefire via Gulf states, sources say

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-asks-gulf-arab-states-have-trump-press-israel-immediate-ceasefire-sources-2025-06-16/

Netanyahu tells ABC he's not ruling out taking out Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/netanyahu-tells-abc-ruling-taking-irans-supreme-leader/story?id=122868515

Suffice it to say that deliberately targeting the leader of a country for assassination is a major no-no according to 'international norms'. The US did it too in trying to murder Saddam Hussein in the opening shots of the Iraq War in 2003.


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“When everywhere the fires of conflict are burning, then its clear these fires could begin to merge and a huge worldwide conflagration can begin,” Markov said. “The West has created the conditions for any war to be good for Russia.”


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Yeah, but the English have comparable drinking and binge drinking rates - and for all the talk of Irish rowdiness it is English football hooliganism that is known as the 'English disease'. The English white working class is not exactly known for its sophistication. Outside of London England is as poor as Mississippi. When we think of the English it is almost always the 'better' sorts in the upper classes, especially historically.

Somehow being drunken brawlers comes across as less objectionable nowadays - especially when the alternative seems to be a middle class, cloistered, paper pushing pussy. Northern Ireland is the most terror ridden area in Europe due to dissident republicans. Meaning they'll fight. Is this good or bad? That question is not so cut and dried.


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Dunno what you expect. I've already wasted too much time explaining to you what anyone knows by middle school but somehow thinks internet anonymity allows them to ignore: you gotta show some kind of respect.


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Your take: I don't know anything about the subject material - but you're an idiot for giving it any time or consideration.

You're not a serious person.


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It's pretty obvious that the Islamic Revolution seeks to appeal to the Arab street by championing the Palestinians in the face of compliant, US puppets in the Gulf and in Turkey. In this way Iran has made a populist appeal to lead the Islamic world and attempt to become the regional hegemon. What else is Iran going to do? Under the Shah it was just another secularizing US puppet. Its current posture is dangerous but involves immense prestige. They even have the admiration of many Sunnis, including PLOesque Palestinians.

I dunno. But it seems to me that the Arabization of Iran argument seems to be more in the original Islamization and Arabization (the alphabet mainly) of Iran itself. I can't think of any non-Persians among the leadership. They're just obviously no longer Zoroastrians.


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Incidentally, what does make sense is that Bibi is using Iran to unite the Israeli public behind him. At least as far back as Mencius it has been known that leaders will distract attention from problems at home by creating a foreign bogeyman. Iran isn't exactly a bogeyman but Bibi started this war.


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Prior to 2022 I had not prayed in years and could be described as nominally or culturally Protestant with strong Gnostic tendencies or even agnostic. Then he, or someone or something pretending to be him, started talking to me. This amounts to more than voices in my head. There is the matter of the timing coincidences and the things I've seen on the ground. I can go into more detail - but I have discussed this stuff over the last year or so in previous posts.

The second question can be summed up in the reconciliation of Lucifer and Jesus. The fuck n' suck is Lucifer's idea and Jesus agrees with it. Here too I can say more - but I've also previously touched on this. But in brief: Jesus no longer cares about sexual immorality. He sees it as a weapon to shut down things far worse.


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Iran accuses Israel of trying to spoil nuclear deal with US

https://www.rt.com/news/619374-iran-israel-us-araghchi/


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You have both governments openly talking about destroying each other:

Netanyahu says regime change in Iran could be result of Israel's attacks

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-says-regime-change-iran-could-be-result-israels-attacks-2025-06-15/


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Khamenei in bunker in northeastern Tehran; Israel didn't kill him Friday to give him chance to yield -- report

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/khamenei-in-bunker-in-northeastern-tehran-israel-didnt-kill-him-friday-to-give-him-chance-to-yield-report/

Trump ruled out Israeli assassination of Iran's Supreme Leader, U.S. officials say

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/15/trump-israel-iran-assassination-khamenei

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei | The last ‘revolutionary’ of Iran

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/profile-of-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-the-last-revolutionary-of-iran/article69695666.ece


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Iran rejects ceasefire negotiations while under Israeli attack, official says

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-rejects-ceasefire-negotiations-while-under-israeli-attack-official-says-2025-06-15/

Israel, Iran Launch New Rounds of Strikes

Israel hit more targets in Tehran and Iranian missiles fired at Israel killed at least 14, as the conflict continued for a third day

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-iran-attack-news?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAihz-mLYqJNxoogGEzZADAxTiA8PCB8sA


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Trump is already shooting down Iranian missiles. The US is ALREADY involved:

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/after-sitting-out-the-iran-attack-u-s-steps-in-to-help-israel-intercept-missiles-16749866?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAieYcZhC5EpagEjNgJMy_glM2v3xZSxWhfHgRebmdrYOeYeionqylxu&gaa_ts=684f50c3&gaa_sig=v5e0fwvwnTcL2bBlEJtF3nAaH4OkW9wu5ja40fOdKkjfxtvD9pOLi1TS-bU700hHwJ-XDUVG0lfpPOkBBU9B1g%3D%3D

Whereas this has all kinds of interesting implications:

Trump vetoed Israeli plan to kill Iran’s supreme leader, US official tells AP

https://apnews.com/article/trump-iran-israel-attack-43e3b1ce47d12477ae4533c941386b75


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Well, let's provide some context here. You think the Iranian leadership doesn't mind if their country gets nuked as long as they have a country to flee to? Which country? I mean, do you realize how these guys live? Pretty well!


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True. They do it out of arrogance, hubris. They *think* they can get away with it.


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In my opinion you should get right with Jesus Christ while you still can. Maybe it's as simple as Pascal's wager - but this tendency to adopt race worship and Jew hate as a replacement religion could cost you your soul.


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Immigration policy is a little less cut and dried than inviting getting obliterated instantly by nuclear war. In the first case the leaders might even benefit from the immigration personally. In the second they die instantly.


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Risk of nuclear war grows amid new arms race

https://www.dw.com/en/risk-of-nuclear-war-grows-amid-new-arms-race/a-72894853


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What We Know About Vance L. Boelter, the FBI-Wanted Suspect in the Minnesota Lawmakers Attacks

https://time.com/7294374/minnesota-lawmakers-shooting-suspect-vance-boelter-fbi-most-wanted/


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Temp ban lifted. Watch it though. It all starts with respect. If you come in calling me an idiot because I have a different opinion it isn't going to end well.


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Bear in mind Bibi has been at this for over 30 years with Iran getting da bomb:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtNy0_pXsAARXJk?format=png&name=small

Even so I incline toward realist theories of international relations. In other words state leaders are rational actors and won't go out of their way to invite destruction on themselves. This was an argument Stephen Walt made even with regards to the ISIS proto-state. Iran is significantly more moderate than they were.

You don't need to nuke Israel. Demographics are against them. The Jewish population percentage has been sinking for years. Muslims will outlast them if nothing else, and even already Israel is mired in pre-civil war infighting and loss of prestige due to its genocide in Gaza. This Zionist warmongering rhetoric doesn't make sense.


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