HK VP 9 is all right but certainly not for the price.
Glock, M&P 2.0, the new echelon all do it better.
Nobody wins USPSA with VP9s. Nobody even shoots them. Their like 1% because they are expensive poly guns. Their finger grooves are fucking stupid. It either fits your fingers or it doesn't and makes for an uncomfortable grip.
M&P 2.0 is the goat. It has low bore, low felt recoil, it passed all the dirt and frozen guntuner tests. It has decent aftermarket. It has close to the best striker fired trigger with either Apex or Overwatch Precision upgrade. It has metal tube mags. Their competitor models are pretty good but overpriced. They have a new steel grip (although expensive and comped) should come out with a standard steel grip.
Glocks are great. If you like their grip angles.
Echelon has all the bells and whistles, solid performer.
PDPs are awesome but grip angle might not fit all and are a little snappy. They have the best striker fired trigger.
Canik are Turkish PDP clones but also have great triggers. Top world CO shooter uses Canik.
Nobody shoots Rugers striker fired, they are even less than the VP9.
1911s and their double stack counterparts are 1911s. Best triggers. Not as reliable "drop them in the mud" as strikers.
All of the above doesn't matter though. If the VP 9 works for you then it works for you. Are you proficient with it?
P320 shoot themselves. Lol.
Echelon with mischief machine alum grip (1911) grip angle, brass panels, tyrant trigger with some RRP sprins costs as much as the VP9, shoots better and looks better...
You can find plenty of studies to read on the benefits of nicotine. If you just "Google" it though they are pretty hard to find because most report on tobacco products, not nicotine alone. Need to search pubmed/ncbi/Google scholar etc.
My personal experience is that nicotine itself isn't addictive but the habit in which you take the nicotine is, you repeat something enough you're training your body for a dopamine hit. If you secretly removed the nicotine from a persons vape, they would still get placebo effect.
I smoked for about a year when I was a teen, tried to go for a mountain bike ride and felt it in my lungs, quit cold turkey that day.
Didn't pick nicotine back up until started working construction many years later. Tobacco based chew. Got grossed out by that and quit cold turkey.
10 years later after no nicotine use the nicotine salt pouches showed up and gave them a try. Been on and off with those.
I'm healthy, I workout 5 days a week alternating lifting and running. There is a a difference on and off nicotine. But I also feel like too much is a bad thing as with anything. I feel like there is a neural burnout when taken too long. If you would really like the benefits of nicotine but are worried about the addiction I would cycle it. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Or change the method in which you get nicotine, patch one week/ gum the next/ pouches the next. I don't recommend vaping due to oils and contamination.
Habits are hard to form and hard to break, the mind doesn't like change, if you don't get it used to anything it won't miss it either.
protodonata 1 point 1 day ago
Go to a gun store. Hold and point (edit) all of the following: Glock 19x, XDM, M&P 2.0, Echelon, Canik, PDP, CZ Shadow 2.
If you're looking for a smaller frame for carry then P365 Macro/Tacops or the fuse, Canik MC9LS, SW Shield, Glock 43, Hellcat.
9mm is better..cheaper to train and you can get P++ ammo if you think 9mm isn't enough stopping power.
As with everything hunting or defense, shot placement is key or as many rounds on target as needed.
If you really want stopping power 10mm
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protodonata 0 points 1 day ago
HK VP 9 is all right but certainly not for the price.
Glock, M&P 2.0, the new echelon all do it better.
Nobody wins USPSA with VP9s. Nobody even shoots them. Their like 1% because they are expensive poly guns. Their finger grooves are fucking stupid. It either fits your fingers or it doesn't and makes for an uncomfortable grip.
M&P 2.0 is the goat. It has low bore, low felt recoil, it passed all the dirt and frozen guntuner tests. It has decent aftermarket. It has close to the best striker fired trigger with either Apex or Overwatch Precision upgrade. It has metal tube mags. Their competitor models are pretty good but overpriced. They have a new steel grip (although expensive and comped) should come out with a standard steel grip.
Glocks are great. If you like their grip angles.
Echelon has all the bells and whistles, solid performer.
PDPs are awesome but grip angle might not fit all and are a little snappy. They have the best striker fired trigger.
Canik are Turkish PDP clones but also have great triggers. Top world CO shooter uses Canik.
Nobody shoots Rugers striker fired, they are even less than the VP9.
1911s and their double stack counterparts are 1911s. Best triggers. Not as reliable "drop them in the mud" as strikers.
All of the above doesn't matter though. If the VP 9 works for you then it works for you. Are you proficient with it?
P320 shoot themselves. Lol.
Echelon with mischief machine alum grip (1911) grip angle, brass panels, tyrant trigger with some RRP sprins costs as much as the VP9, shoots better and looks better...
/v/Guns viewpost?postid=6851f8dca1637
protodonata 3 points 3 weeks ago
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9871277/
You can find plenty of studies to read on the benefits of nicotine. If you just "Google" it though they are pretty hard to find because most report on tobacco products, not nicotine alone. Need to search pubmed/ncbi/Google scholar etc.
My personal experience is that nicotine itself isn't addictive but the habit in which you take the nicotine is, you repeat something enough you're training your body for a dopamine hit. If you secretly removed the nicotine from a persons vape, they would still get placebo effect.
I smoked for about a year when I was a teen, tried to go for a mountain bike ride and felt it in my lungs, quit cold turkey that day.
Didn't pick nicotine back up until started working construction many years later. Tobacco based chew. Got grossed out by that and quit cold turkey.
10 years later after no nicotine use the nicotine salt pouches showed up and gave them a try. Been on and off with those.
I'm healthy, I workout 5 days a week alternating lifting and running. There is a a difference on and off nicotine. But I also feel like too much is a bad thing as with anything. I feel like there is a neural burnout when taken too long. If you would really like the benefits of nicotine but are worried about the addiction I would cycle it. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Or change the method in which you get nicotine, patch one week/ gum the next/ pouches the next. I don't recommend vaping due to oils and contamination.
Habits are hard to form and hard to break, the mind doesn't like change, if you don't get it used to anything it won't miss it either.
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