How WWII started (whatever)
submitted by ted754 to whatever 2.8 years ago
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For a contemporary analogy, consider this alternate timeline:
In 1999, towards the end of his term, Bill Clinton hands over Texas and Oklahoma to Mexico "for diversity" or whatever
Overnight, Americans living in Texas and Oklahoma are told they now live in and are subjects of Mexico
Their citizenship is annulled, they are now Mexicans instead and cannot leave or visit family without a visa
Obviously, actual Mexicans immediately flood in and take over the region, declaring it is now theirs
They behave towards the (former) Americans as you can well imagine
Over the next two decades conditions for Americans in that region worsen drastically
Food shortages and violence become more and more common
They are forbidden from teaching their children English
They must only speak Spanish, or else the parents get thrown in jail or worse
By 2018, former Americans begin fleeing into Kansas and Louisiana as refugees
They are sick and miserable, many of them look half-starved
They tell horror stories of abuse, watching loved ones being murdered, torn to pieces, fed to dogs by cartels
Trump attempts to negotiate with Mexico, but they are standoffish
Trudeau in Canada encourages all this, telling Mexico he's got their back (he doesn't)
In 2019, all diplomacy having been rejected, Trump orders US troops to march into Texas and Oklahoma to protect Americans there
The Media calls this "Trump invades Mexico" and condemns it
Canada declares war but doesn't help Mexico. Eventually gets Europe and China to join in to attack from all sides.
Israel profits
How would you feel about all this? How would you feel if you were stuck in Texas or OklahomaMexico? How would you feel if members of your family were stuck there, and you on the other side?
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[–] cyclops1771 1 point (+1|-0) 2.3 hours ago
It's even worse that that. In this case, Trump negotiates with Mexico for the return of OK, Dallas, Houston and Galveston. Poland agrees in principle to a deal.
Trudeau flies to Poland, demands they retract the decision to negotiate, and says, Russia and Europe have your back. Don't negotiate at all. If you DO, we will embargo you.
https://files.catbox.moe/rf8ile.mkv
https://files.catbox.moe/daxss7.mkv
[Voat OC] One last Red Pill for the road: Fully translated German newsreel from 1939, never before available in English, shows how WW2 began. (whatever)
submitted 4.4 hours ago by Glory_Beckons
This is the "UfA Tonwoche" newsreel, issue 468, aired on 23 August, 1939. One week later, Germany launched the Poland offensive.
Subtitled by yours truly, just for you goats.
Short version: https://files.catbox.moe/ykggh9.webm https://files.catbox.moe/rf8ile.mkv
Full version: https://files.catbox.moe/xnt8cc.webm https://files.catbox.moe/daxss7.mkv
The short version is just the good stuff. The full version is the entire newsreel and has a few minutes of random segments before the good stuff. A curious glimpse of history. The WEBM versions have the subtitles baked in and are a bit more compressed. The MKV versions have embedded soft subtitles, so they can be turned on and off, and the video and audio didn't need to be re-encoded and are the best quality I could find. You'll probably need to download the mkv version to view it.
To my knowledge this has never been available in English to the general public. Not before the war, not during, and not after. Not until now.
Why did Germany invade Poland?
A question that often comes up when discussing WW2. Even here, people rarely know or have good answers. Even more rare than answers are sources. As with any war, the victors put a lot of effort into burying and discrediting any just cause their enemy might have had.
This video lays out the German perspective, the situation they were in, the history that led up to it, and why they had to act.
It explains how the territories in question, that Germany "invaded", were still Germany merely 20 years prior, before the Treaty of Versailles of 1919, and had been German for hundreds of years before that. It shows that Germans still lived on that land, and spoke German, and wanted to be German, and part of Germany. They had no interest in being Polish. They were just told one day that they must be. It shows German refugees fleeing those regions, their own homeland, that their ancestors had lived on for hundreds of years, because of the hunger and poverty and violence they suffered under Polish rule. Many of them testify that they are forbidden from teaching their children German, their own language, or sending them to German schools. Those who disobey are imprisoned or sent to Russia.
Is it all just Nazi propaganda and lies? Maybe. My job is to show it to you. Yours is to decide what's true.
But ask yourself: Why has nobody shown this to you before? Why would sharing this in Germany likely land you a cell next to Mrs Haverbeck?
PS: No hard feelings for any Poles or Brits here. If you're reading this, you probably weren't around back then. And, bear in mind, they didn't have internet or places like Voat back then. If you never saw this until today, imagine how hopelessly clamped down and controlled the information available to the average Pole or Brit was back then. They had no chance to see the other side of things. That's how they were able to pit us against each other. Let's not let that happen again.