Well no one succeeds all the time, but plenty of people don't even try...
why is there no shame being applied there?
There is, in the more wholesome WN circles (which this forum is certainly not restricted to). Of course there are many other complications here... Having sex is very much linked to proving one's masculinity and that's quite a primal thing. It's also part of a man's status... A promiscuous man tends to be more attractive to women for various reasons.
Mainly though, it's because women control access to sex in the modern West and so it's vastly more important that they exercise the restraint. They could also choose not to grant access to promiscuous men (but they won't).
Why don’t men hold this 20% accountable? Is it because because most white men want to be in that 20% if they get a chance?
Aside from the factors above... Honestly, yes. Most men—especially young ones—would require the disposition of a saint to turn down that opportunity. It's just what it is—how we're built. If we're generous and say that women have a similar intensity of drive (which I doubt, but won't claim to know for sure), then it again comes down to who controls access... Which is women.
White males would simply agree to only having sex with one woman and males who had more would be shamed by other males. If you believe in shaming, is that not pragmatic?
Frankly, no it isn't. Women are the 'gatekeepers'... The efforts should be focused there. The only way your suggestion would really make sense is if we revived a more patriarchal kind of society, but if that were to happen I think you'd find most of this would no longer be an issue very quickly. That said, I don't think it's a bad idea for men to frown upon male promiscuity, I just think that focusing on women has a lot more return-on-investment potential.
WW are not 90% fucking niggers; despite the propaganda, WW very much prefer WM. (If you meant WW being 'niggers' in terms of behaviour, it again comes down to access control. The average guys would be as bad or worse if they really had a choice in the matter).
I'm not going claim any certainty with the math, because I'm very much out of touch with dating scenes. What I'm hearing though, is that among younger generations 'average status' guys are either not having sex or barely any, while most 'average looking' women have had multiple partners by their early twenties. Also just hearsay, but all of the White fellas I know IRL would rather go without than stoop to paying a hooker. So nothing definitive here, but I will say that this lopsided activity does make sense in the context of women controlling access + having hypergamous drives (which is not propaganda, but fact).
anrach 2 points 4 months ago
Well no one succeeds all the time, but plenty of people don't even try...
There is, in the more wholesome WN circles (which this forum is certainly not restricted to). Of course there are many other complications here... Having sex is very much linked to proving one's masculinity and that's quite a primal thing. It's also part of a man's status... A promiscuous man tends to be more attractive to women for various reasons.
Mainly though, it's because women control access to sex in the modern West and so it's vastly more important that they exercise the restraint. They could also choose not to grant access to promiscuous men (but they won't).
Aside from the factors above... Honestly, yes. Most men—especially young ones—would require the disposition of a saint to turn down that opportunity. It's just what it is—how we're built. If we're generous and say that women have a similar intensity of drive (which I doubt, but won't claim to know for sure), then it again comes down to who controls access... Which is women.
Frankly, no it isn't. Women are the 'gatekeepers'... The efforts should be focused there. The only way your suggestion would really make sense is if we revived a more patriarchal kind of society, but if that were to happen I think you'd find most of this would no longer be an issue very quickly. That said, I don't think it's a bad idea for men to frown upon male promiscuity, I just think that focusing on women has a lot more return-on-investment potential.
WW are not 90% fucking niggers; despite the propaganda, WW very much prefer WM. (If you meant WW being 'niggers' in terms of behaviour, it again comes down to access control. The average guys would be as bad or worse if they really had a choice in the matter).
I'm not going claim any certainty with the math, because I'm very much out of touch with dating scenes. What I'm hearing though, is that among younger generations 'average status' guys are either not having sex or barely any, while most 'average looking' women have had multiple partners by their early twenties. Also just hearsay, but all of the White fellas I know IRL would rather go without than stoop to paying a hooker. So nothing definitive here, but I will say that this lopsided activity does make sense in the context of women controlling access + having hypergamous drives (which is not propaganda, but fact).