Is it? I don't really see the analogue there... Female status is more about being attached to a high-status male, not in simply having sex. Is there really a similar level of peer pressure in female groups just to simply fuck? I would think 'womanhood' is more linked to bearing children and bodily 'development'.
But most women find promiscuous men disgusting.
That's not what I've seen at all. Of course women generally don't want a man who'd be cheating on them, but typically women are attracted to sexually 'experienced' men because of the factors which allowed those men to become 'experienced' (social status, looks) and the confidence acquired as a result.
This is just a cop out.
It is not. It seems you're very much interested in assigning blame and indulging a sense of 'fairness'. I don't believe in free will, and the universe is not fair nor egalitarian. From my perspective, the abstract notion of 'blame' (which is how most people perceive it) is merely a mirage. I only argue for what I think would effectively change social mores going forward, bearing no resentment towards women whatsoever. I do admire the aspiration to creating a 'fair' society, but I think such a state is a luxury... And looking at the current our trajectory (sparked by egalitarian philosophies), I'm not sure if it's fundamentally tenable (at least not without dynamic limitation).
Those places turned out to be the best countries because they incentivized the most egalitarian behaviors
What places specifically are you talking about here? The West when it was still de facto controlled by men?
The heart of the problem is male intrasexual competition ruck amok.
So then you have to ask what factors have led to this paradigm. Could it be because women are now 'in charge' of their own sexuality, and have diluted the ability of an average man to 'provide' by joining the workforce (which also delays/diverts women from settling down with a life mate)? The spectre of legal system being 'wielded' by women to dramatic effect in the event of break-ups? Again, I'm not 'blaming' women here... Certainly this current paradigm could not exist had men not also allowed society to evolve in this direction.
it just means there is a more variable outcome among males.
Yes, I understand this. I think you're so used to arguing others around here that you're misunderstanding my perspective. I'm not in any way claiming those bottom 50% of males are uniquely virtuous. I'm simply saying that with women currently being the gatekeepers, they are not choosing monogamy (again no blame, no one has free will... we are all simply products of our genes + inputs).
The guys that go there are not niggers.
Fair enough. I'll admit most of my friends are more 'cerebral' types and don't necessarily represent the majority of men.
The essence of all this is that I'm interested in variables and consequences, not blame.
You should copy long posts into buffer before submitting, as a matter of habit ;)
anrach 1 points 4 months ago
Is it? I don't really see the analogue there... Female status is more about being attached to a high-status male, not in simply having sex. Is there really a similar level of peer pressure in female groups just to simply fuck? I would think 'womanhood' is more linked to bearing children and bodily 'development'.
The essence of all this is that I'm interested in variables and consequences, not blame.
You should copy long posts into buffer before submitting, as a matter of habit ;)