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I've talked to a few, and its as if their entire part of the brain dealing with logic, self preservation is destroyed. These people have so little understanding of civil discourse or even basic civil ethics, it boggles the mind they work for the government. And with Trump, it seems like these people would rather spite their face and destroy their own state than reduce spending by even a penny.

I was trying to explain how if you overtax the citizenry PAYING you, eventually they will run out of money leading to an inevitable tax increase on the gov person's own job. They didn't get it, since they thought their own public job was equivalent to a private one. Per their own words, they get a W2 like anyone else, so what's the issue?

Those same citizens will also eventually run out of money, leading to forced austerity measures. Which is what happened, they cut services left and right to balance the budget. The citizen gets screwed again so some public employee useless fuck can keep their pension. They didn't get it, they just thought that they could constantly rob people for more money and keep pawning it off on someone else. I tried explaining how city/state get money from the feds (dont personally agree with it since its extortion), and they said that's not true, they get paid by the city, so why does fed funding matter.

Instead of rebutting my points, they just grunted, told me im too depressing and deflected the conversation. So it looks like my liberal shithole of a place will get ready for a screeching increase in taxes this year, as they have to plug up close to half their budget which comes from the feds. Ironically they just increased the tolls considerably, only to increase the fares on the public transport, which is EXACTLY what everyone thought would happen. So not only are you being charged more money one way, you're being punished for alternative options.