Ok,the thing you need to understand is these people who want the vaccine are not working on logic. They're working on emotion. Namely,panic. Media induced panic. All the logic and reason in the world will not work here.
They will look up any article or even make up any excuse,no matter how ridiculous,to excuse these logical problems with the vaccine.
Here's some examples from my own idiot family,2 of which are taking the vax.
"They had to suspend liability so they could get the vaccine out because covid is so dangerous!"
"The CDC would NEVER pad the numbers! That'd be unethical!"
"The government would never allow a product that kills people!" Bare in mind my brother is actively avoiding nitrates and nitrites because he believes they'll cause butt cancer. Because he heard it on the news.
"Bill Gates isn't being prosecuted for sterilizing kids in India with a vaccine! This fact checking site says so!"
I'm not saying this isn't a good article,but don't expect it to work on people who are consumed by fear. And determined to not realize how bad it really is.
I guess in some cases we need to just keep chipping away at them. I honestly cannot understand how someone could read that article and not at least have some questions or concerns. I cannot fathom that.
[ - ] Merlynn 1 point 4 yearsApr 27, 2021 21:40:17 ago (+1/-0)
You have to find the breaking point. You have to find something that they can't deny. But that's hard since pilpul is subconsciously taught to people and they fall back on it whenever pressed.
The big roadblock I find is most people are unwilling to objectively study both sides of an argument. Something sounds outrageous or hard to believe to them at which point they are willing to look any further at it.
I made a post on old Voat about the big nazi lie. Accepting the truth about the nazis is hard because it's just such a big lie,so often told. Once that goes,it shakes their whole faith in what is real. If they lied about that,what else could they have lied about.
I'm beginning to think letting these people get vaxxed is the better solution. If you're that stupid... I mean we've been trying for years, they won't listen. Fuck them. They're NPCs and can't be saved.
They won't care. Today I just an extremely frustrating conversation with one of the most intelligent people I know about the dangers of the vaccine and how covid deaths are vastly inflated, showing this person all the evidence I collected. And you know what? They just didn't give a shit. Not only are they getting vaxxed, they argued that anyone who doesn't get vaxxed is a "murderer" and should be legally ostracized from partaking in even simple things, like shopping for groceries, until they give in...or die.
I'm serious. This isn't an IQ thing, it's a sheep thing - and the vast majority of people are sheep who just don't give a shit about facts. These people are willing to kill us if we don't comply with the herd, and they'll blame us for the fact that they're killing us.
We're going to have to fight. It's the only option left now. We're going to have to fight, we're going to have to kill lots and lots of people, and we're going to personally know, or even be related, to some of these people. Because if we don't they most certainly will kill us.
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[ - ] Merlynn 4 points 4 yearsApr 27, 2021 21:01:08 ago (+4/-0)
They will look up any article or even make up any excuse,no matter how ridiculous,to excuse these logical problems with the vaccine.
Here's some examples from my own idiot family,2 of which are taking the vax.
"They had to suspend liability so they could get the vaccine out because covid is so dangerous!"
"The CDC would NEVER pad the numbers! That'd be unethical!"
"The government would never allow a product that kills people!" Bare in mind my brother is actively avoiding nitrates and nitrites because he believes they'll cause butt cancer. Because he heard it on the news.
"Bill Gates isn't being prosecuted for sterilizing kids in India with a vaccine! This fact checking site says so!"
I'm not saying this isn't a good article,but don't expect it to work on people who are consumed by fear. And determined to not realize how bad it really is.
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The answer,of course,is everything.
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[ - ] ClaytonBigsby313 1 point 4 yearsApr 28, 2021 06:14:09 ago (+1/-0)
LET THEM DIE.
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I'm serious. This isn't an IQ thing, it's a sheep thing - and the vast majority of people are sheep who just don't give a shit about facts. These people are willing to kill us if we don't comply with the herd, and they'll blame us for the fact that they're killing us.
We're going to have to fight. It's the only option left now. We're going to have to fight, we're going to have to kill lots and lots of people, and we're going to personally know, or even be related, to some of these people. Because if we don't they most certainly will kill us.
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Are we all off city water here?
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