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Stonetoss: Overdose

submitted by KCobain27 to whatever 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 15:49:12 ago (+33/-2)     (files.catbox.moe)

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Lucky to have well water here.

http://stonetoss.com/comic/overdose/


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[ - ] GloryBeckons 9 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 16:00:39 ago (+9/-0)*

Your well water is full of it too. They've been adding so much of it to tap water for so long that it has saturated groundwater as well (Edit: That's not entirely fair; it occurs naturally as well. But adding more of it certainly hasn't helped). And it's practically impossible to filter out using conventional means.

Reverse osmosis is the only practical option I'm aware of to get rid of it.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 9 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 16:46:03 ago (+9/-0)

Reverse osmosis or distilling works. Most of the fluoride compounds are salts, and have a boiling point that are thousands of degrees. Sodium fluoride is most commonly added to water, and has a boiling point of 3083f, so it will be left behind during the distillation process.

Source for data: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Sodium-fluoride#section=Boiling-Point

I of course recommend you use fractional distillation, rather than straight distillation, as there are other poisons they are adding to water that are around the same boiling point of water.
An example of this is Sodium hypochlorite, which is used to chlorinate water. In solution it has a boiling point of 231.8 °Fahrenheit. Water has a boiling point of 212 °F. Even with strict temperature control, you'll still get some chlorine in your water using just distillation, which is why I recommend fractional distillation.

As for it saturating groundwater, if you live about 30 miles out from the nearest city that adds fluoride to their water, you should be fine drinking from a well. That being said, regularly test your well for contaminants.

[ - ] Splooge 7 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 17:27:30 ago (+7/-0)

Based purificationgoat

[ - ] Majiqai 2 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:48:09 ago (+2/-0)

You seem smart. please debunk me. A long time ago while researching fluoride, I came across a geocities type page from someone who obviously knew their chemistry. It was a bit above my understanding but the gist was that its nigh impossible to remove fluoride from out water, at least with any available consumer tools.

I can no longer find the page (((wonder why))) but from what I can remember, it was something about the way fluoride is ionized and the RO filter can't do shit about that and also how fluoride molecules are nearly the same weight/size as water molecules and that somehow prevented simple distillation from working. Im not a chemist so tell me what I'm remembering incorrectly. I was able to find this page with some similar info:

http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=62526

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 5 points 3.9 yearsAug 6, 2021 02:03:58 ago (+5/-0)

I'm of average intelligence, and most of what I've said is from a short amount of time researching on the internet. Also, I don't debunk things, because research is never finished and needs to be held to constant scrutiny to be useful.

I've looked at the chemicals listed on that site and compiled a list of which ones should be possible to distill out of water. There are others that might be in use, but this should give you a general idea.

Sodium silicofluoride does not have a melting or boiling point, as it decomposes at its melting point, and in order to be dissolved in water, the water has to be boiling. So basic distillation should leave it behind, as it won't breakdown at 212f. I'm unsure of its melting point however. Source: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Sodium-hexafluorosilicate#section=Melting-Point

Hexafluorosilicic acid has a boiling point of 212f, exactly the same as water, it is also used in water fluoridation. Unfortunately, if it has been added to water, than the only way to remove it is which a ionic filter, or chemical treatment. Source: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Hexafluorosilicic-acid#section=Boiling-Point

hydrofluorosilicic acid has a boiling point of 277f, it can be removed with fractional distillation. https://www.nutrien.com/sites/default/files/2018-01/SDS%20217%20Hydrofluorosilicic%20Acid%20NA%20Final%2004302015%20%5BNutrien%5D.pdf

Ammonium fluorosilicate has a melting point of 212, at which point it decomposes. The main concerning compound formed by decomposition is Hydrofluoric acid. It is extremely toxic, and has a boiling point of 67f, meaning it will turn gaseous at room temperature. Fractional distillation will work, but I would recommend chemically treating it with a calcium compound, to produce a safer to handle calcium fluoride salt. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/hydrogen%20fluoride#section=Boiling-Point

So, direct, and fractional distillation works, depending on how the water is fluoridated. Reverse osmosis appears to only partially work.

If the commenter on that site is correct, and I can't guarantee he is, when calcium acetate reacts with fluoride compounds it will produce calcium fluoride. Calcium fluoride has a boiling point of 4532f, so after drinking water has been treated, it can be distilled leaving the calcium fluoride salt behind.

Likewise certain calcium supplements such as Calcium gluconate, have been used to treat fluoride poisoning. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/CALCIUM%20GLUCONATE and the poison it treated: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/source/hsdb/770#section=Human-Health-Effects

It should be noted that all of these fluoride compounds are listed as extreme poisons when stored. Likewise, some of these compounds can kill if so much as a table spoon is ingested.

I'm not a chemist, I had barely any chemistry in high school, none in college, and despite my best efforts, have been unable to locate a good chemistry book in any of my local bookstores. If you guys know of any really good books, give me the name and I'll see about buying a copy.

[ - ] Majiqai 3 points 3.9 yearsAug 6, 2021 02:12:46 ago (+3/-0)

Ah yes there we go. This comment is quite informative. Hexafluorosilicic acid- that's the one that is most commonly used to fluoridate our water if im not mistaken. Even if (((they))) say it isn't, it probably is. Why? Because who the fuck has an ionic filter for their drinking water? The author of that old page was implying that the methods they use are intentional to make sure as much as the goyim get as much fluoride as possible. Theres a reason Israel doesn't do it (even though they pretend they do again now).

[ - ] Splooge 2 points 3.9 yearsAug 6, 2021 04:26:35 ago (+2/-0)

Also, I don't debunk things, because research is never finished and needs to be held to constant scrutiny to be useful.

Based scholargoat

[ - ] LoliNeko 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 6, 2021 06:00:21 ago (+1/-0)

There's a book titled "Absolutely Small" by Michael D. Fayer. It's decently simplified for the masses, but does invoke quantum mechanics (qualitatively).

A reason this book particularly stood out to me was it shed light on the (((food industry's))) contrived attack on cholesterol and red meats.

[ - ] account deleted by user 6 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 17:10:47 ago (+7/-1)

account deleted by user

[ - ] IfuckedYerMum 3 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 18:45:42 ago (+3/-0)

Lived years with well water. I moved and am temporarily on city water. It's fucking vile. I have to buy overpriced fucking bottled water. Just can't stomach the pool water taste. And the well water was so cold too...

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 19:13:06 ago (+1/-0)

Bottled water is only City water filtered again.

[ - ] IfuckedYerMum 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 19:17:16 ago (+1/-0)

Yes, but the taste is the point here.

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 20:27:29 ago (+1/-0)

The point is that it is in your head. Filtration doesn't remove chlorine.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 21:33:19 ago (+1/-0)

Simple carbon filtration can remove chlorine.

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:05:14 ago (+1/-0)

I believe to keep the bottled water safe, it will still need chlorine in it.

I looked it up. They use ozone instead of chlorine.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:10:54 ago (+1/-0)

I guess they're helping to restore the OZONE LAYER!

[ - ] KCobain27 [op] 0 points 3.9 yearsAug 7, 2021 14:07:32 ago (+0/-0)

Got 'em!

[ - ] IfuckedYerMum 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:29:20 ago (+1/-0)

No, it's absolutely not in my head.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 21:32:47 ago (+1/-0)

A really good friend of mine bought a house some 30 some miles or so away from where we are. That smallish town was historically a farm town, so they set up their own well water sources about a century ago, back when that was still a possibility in the area. He says the tap water there is exceptional, when compared to what the DWP provides for the rest of us plebs in the los angeles area.

[ - ] IfuckedYerMum 2 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:34:43 ago (+2/-0)

It's amazing stuff. It literally tastes like you're drinking from a fresh mountain spring.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 23:17:16 ago (+1/-0)

Even with weird rocket fuel, it still tastes great!

[pretty sure their groundwater is contaminated with that stuff... the wells another 35 or so miles inland where my dad was on the water board were... and he helped devised some really cool thingies that remove it... but enough with the doxxing of myself for now!]

[ - ] KCobain27 [op] 0 points 3.9 yearsAug 7, 2021 14:08:42 ago (+0/-0)

I didn't know you were even in CA before I read the comments here.

[ - ] Scyber 3 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 19:00:28 ago (+3/-0)

I can smell the chlorine from the water in my shower.
A few years ago I used to live about about a half mile from one of my city's water treatment plants and the chlorine was so strong it stung my eyes and permeated my whole home after I showered. Place smelled like a public pool.

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 3 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 19:14:20 ago (+3/-0)

Sounds like they were well above AWWA standards. 4mgL is the limit

[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 23:17:56 ago (+2/-0)

micro goat litres?

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 21:34:08 ago (+1/-0)

All that chlorine helps keep your beautiful blond hair nice and light, as it should be!

[ - ] MuricaPersonified 3 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:13:31 ago (+3/-0)

Wait a second, I thought we all agreed that green hair ain't natural.

[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:15:12 ago (+2/-0)

I thought that was from all the boogers.

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 2 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 19:16:55 ago (+2/-0)

Everything is toxic in high enough doses. If there were anything in your community that you could change, it would probably be fluoride in the water. It used to be more important, but toothpaste and rinses are more effective. Fluoride is expensive and treatment plant would be happy to stop adding it.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 21:34:47 ago (+1/-0)

I am presently trying to find the level at which beer intake becomes toxic.
FOR SCIENCE!

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 3 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:09:15 ago (+3/-0)

Look up cirrhosis of the liver.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:11:51 ago (+1/-0)

Bah, like I can trust all those fake scientists at this point!

Anecdotal is BEST!

[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 2 points 3.9 yearsAug 6, 2021 03:15:21 ago (+2/-0)

You can't drink enough beers to reach the point of it being toxic. Aussie cricketer David Boon drank 52 full strength beers on a flight from London to Sydney in 1989.

Anecdotal is best indeed.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 6, 2021 03:17:44 ago (+1/-0)

I'll drink to that!

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 21:30:18 ago (+1/-0)

It's REALLY prohibitively expensive to dig a well here, so we make due with reverse osmosis.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 21:45:48 ago (+2/-1)

account deleted by user

[ - ] AloisH 2 points 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 21:55:37 ago (+2/-0)

Suspect?

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 22:09:43 ago (+1/-0)

Suspect is correct.

[ - ] KCobain27 [op] 0 points 3.9 yearsAug 7, 2021 14:11:07 ago (+0/-0)

Suspicious - it is from "Among Us"

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sus-among-us

[ - ] KCobain27 [op] 0 points 3.9 yearsAug 7, 2021 14:12:14 ago (+0/-0)

I guess "suspect" is a bit of a synonym, but technically "sus" means "suspicious" - it is from "Among Us"

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sus-among-us

[ - ] KCobain27 [op] 0 points 3.9 yearsAug 7, 2021 14:10:46 ago (+0/-0)

Suspicious - it is from "Among Us"

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sus-among-us

[ - ] M80TheMan 1 point 3.9 yearsAug 5, 2021 23:20:32 ago (+1/-0)

Yep. That’s why I’m on well water and I have an RO system. You can never be too safe with what you put in and on your body.