I should be we'd this to an (ex) friend and he said those are out of context and not what he meant, and that jews are God's chosen people Yada Yada then disappeared me.
[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 3.8 yearsAug 24, 2021 15:14:16 ago (+1/-0)
When you live off of second hand information, the truth doesn't exist for you. Evangelical Christians are the revelations literalist variety and they're only a sect of Christianity. Most Christians don't take everything in the Bible literally, and certainly not Revlations. They are in the US at 25% of the population and they've only been Zionist for a hundred years. They've been promoted into influential positions by back door strategists (Jews) for that time as well. Like Churchill, who bungled WW1 so bad he caused the Gallipoli massacre of pointlessness and his career was over. But somehow, magically he was resurrected and elevated over all for WW2, and he happened to be an insane Zionist Christian. The Zionists didn't start popping up in England until Cromwell, who was a shabbos goy. They were never the majority in English political class or people.
Around half of all muslims are apocalyptic and want to bring about the end times. Their version has Jesus coming back and killing all the Christians.
Between the jews, the political class in Western countries who are all shabbos goy, the zionist Christians and the pro apocalypse muslims we've got a dangerously large group of crazy fuckers who all want to destroy the entire world and can make it happen.
Christians are the revelations literalist variety and they're only a sect of Christianity. Most Christians don't take everything in the Bible literally, and certainly not Revlations.
What's the point of having "holy scripture" that your very soul relies upon if you can just choose to reinterpret it as you please? Ignore this passage, this passage actually means the opposite of what it says, this passage isn't meant to be taken literally, etc. Christian Zionist exists because they worship the Jewish god Yahweh, which is a self-serving god invented by Jews to legitimize genocide and conquering as a "chosen people" with a "chosen land". You can keep trying to talk around it, but nothing changes that fact.
Picking and choosing the scripture is exactly what it's about. The underlying message is in the book, not the passages. Christ even tells you that if you can't remember anything else, there are two things that are good enough; to love your neighbour as yourself. That "as yourself" part should tell even the most dunderheaded that it doesn't mean letting others use you and abuse you the way zionists and progressives do. People had self respect until the schools were used to give them the vanity of self esteem instead.
The second part was to love God with all your heart. You need your neighbours to do that because they won't put government and corporation and bureaucracy above God if they do. And you'll know what to expect from them. Zionists, both Christian and jew put the political entity of Israel and the jews above God.
You can get a Dominican or Red Letter Bible that puts all of Jesus' words in red so that you can pick and choose exactly what Jesus said because everything else is atoms and opinions.
Picking and choosing the scripture is exactly what it's about.
More horseshit from people that don't actually believe their "holy scripture" is worth the paper it's printed on. You wear your McReligion like a magic medallion and use it to justify whatever it is you want to believe. If YOUR VERY SOUL depended on conforming to your religion, you wouldn't be so cavalier with it.
You can get a Dominican or Red Letter Bible that puts all of Jesus' words in red so that you can pick and choose exactly what Jesus said because everything else is atoms and opinions.
And even then you play the same games, ignoring what you don't like, or going the "not literal" route, or pretending Jesus said the opposite of what he clearly said. I've been through this shit with you before, when you argued complete bullshit about the Sermon on the Mount and the passage that contains "turn the other cheek":
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. - Revelation 3:9
It boggles my mind that so many midwits (purportedly on our “side”) can recognize the fact that the most destructive jews aren’t actually “practicing” jews, yet proclaim atheism as a way to fight them.
“hurr durr muh kike on a stick” yeah, so edgy and clever, it’s not like judaism doesn’t bash Jesus in its own satanic writings or anything. They’ll disagree with jews on the vaxx, open borders, miscegenation, etc., but when it comes to Christianity (no, not christcucking, there’s a difference), that’s where there’s no objection.
[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 3.8 yearsAug 24, 2021 14:54:20 ago (+1/-0)
The best point to kick them with when people bring up Jesus is to go back to the Old Testament. Jews only have the first 5 books of the Old Testament to base their political claims on. Even the most fake "secular" jew is a fanatical fundamentalist. Jew Naomi Wolf got so carried away with her own virtue signaling that she pointed out that Israel doesn't belong to the jews according to the small part of book they choose to use.
"if you read Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy in Hebrew — as I do — you see that God did not “give” Israel to the Jews/Israelites.
We as Jews are raised with the creed that “God gave us the land of Israel” in Genesis — and that ethnically “we are the chosen people.” But actually — and I could not believe my eyes when I saw this, I checked my reading with major scholars and they confirmed it — actually God’s “covenant” in Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy with the Jewish people is NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY AND NOT ABOUT A CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A WAY OF BEHAVING.
Again and again in the “covenant” language He never says: “I will give you, ethnic Israelites, the land of Israel.” Rather He says something far more radical — far more subversive — far more Godlike in my view.
He says:
“IF you visit those imprisoned…act mercifully to the widow and the orphan…welcome the stranger in your midst…tend the sick…do justice and love mercy…and perform various other tasks…THEN YOU WILL BE MY PEOPLE AND THIS LAND WILL BE YOUR LAND.”
So “my people” is not ethnic — it is transactional. We are God’s people not by birth but by a way of behaving, that is ethical, kind and just. And we STOP being “God’s people” when we are not ethical, kind and just. And ANYONE who is ethical, kind and just is, according to God in Genesis, “God’s people.”
And the “contract” to “give” us Israel is conditional — we can live in God’s land IF we are “God’s people” in this way — just, merciful, compassionate. AND — it never ever says, it is ONLY your land.
Even when passages spell out geographical “boundaries” as if God does such a thing, it never says this is exclusively your land. It never says I will give this land JUST to you.
Remember these were homeless nomads who had left slavery in Egypt and were wandering around in the desert; at most these passages say, settle here, but they do not say, settle here exclusively. Indeed again and again it talks about welcoming “zarim” — translated as “strangers” but can also be translated as “people/tribes who are not you” — in your midst."
he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— the Lord Almighty is his name: 36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,” declares the Lord, “will Israel ever cease being a nation before me.”
37 This is what the Lord says:
“Only if the heavens above can be measured and the foundations of the earth below be searched out will I reject all the descendants of Israel because of all they have done,” declares the Lord.
Leviticus 26:14-46 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments; And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you. And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass: And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits. And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate. And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me; Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence
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[ - ] diggernicks 1 point 3.4 yearsFeb 12, 2022 07:36:38 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 0 points 3.8 yearsAug 23, 2021 21:35:26 ago (+1/-1)
Nowhere in the Bible.
He in fact praised the members of his community and condemned gentiles like the romans.
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[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.8 yearsAug 23, 2021 21:35:13 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.gotquestions.org/end-times-Israel.html
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 3.8 yearsAug 24, 2021 15:14:16 ago (+1/-0)
Around half of all muslims are apocalyptic and want to bring about the end times. Their version has Jesus coming back and killing all the Christians.
Between the jews, the political class in Western countries who are all shabbos goy, the zionist Christians and the pro apocalypse muslims we've got a dangerously large group of crazy fuckers who all want to destroy the entire world and can make it happen.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.8 yearsAug 28, 2021 03:57:04 ago (+0/-0)
What's the point of having "holy scripture" that your very soul relies upon if you can just choose to reinterpret it as you please? Ignore this passage, this passage actually means the opposite of what it says, this passage isn't meant to be taken literally, etc. Christian Zionist exists because they worship the Jewish god Yahweh, which is a self-serving god invented by Jews to legitimize genocide and conquering as a "chosen people" with a "chosen land". You can keep trying to talk around it, but nothing changes that fact.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 3.8 yearsAug 28, 2021 10:39:41 ago (+0/-0)
The second part was to love God with all your heart. You need your neighbours to do that because they won't put government and corporation and bureaucracy above God if they do. And you'll know what to expect from them. Zionists, both Christian and jew put the political entity of Israel and the jews above God.
You can get a Dominican or Red Letter Bible that puts all of Jesus' words in red so that you can pick and choose exactly what Jesus said because everything else is atoms and opinions.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.8 yearsAug 29, 2021 13:11:10 ago (+0/-0)
More horseshit from people that don't actually believe their "holy scripture" is worth the paper it's printed on. You wear your McReligion like a magic medallion and use it to justify whatever it is you want to believe. If YOUR VERY SOUL depended on conforming to your religion, you wouldn't be so cavalier with it.
And even then you play the same games, ignoring what you don't like, or going the "not literal" route, or pretending Jesus said the opposite of what he clearly said. I've been through this shit with you before, when you argued complete bullshit about the Sermon on the Mount and the passage that contains "turn the other cheek":
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost.php?postid=60d6b57ba86cc#comment_60d817787fe40
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“hurr durr muh kike on a stick” yeah, so edgy and clever, it’s not like judaism doesn’t bash Jesus in its own satanic writings or anything. They’ll disagree with jews on the vaxx, open borders, miscegenation, etc., but when it comes to Christianity (no, not christcucking, there’s a difference), that’s where there’s no objection.
[ + ] MichaelStewart
[ - ] MichaelStewart 2 points 3.8 yearsAug 23, 2021 20:08:02 ago (+2/-0)
Me: "No more butts"
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 3.8 yearsAug 24, 2021 14:54:20 ago (+1/-0)
"if you read Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy in Hebrew — as I do — you see that God did not “give” Israel to the Jews/Israelites.
We as Jews are raised with the creed that “God gave us the land of Israel” in Genesis — and that ethnically “we are the chosen people.” But actually — and I could not believe my eyes when I saw this, I checked my reading with major scholars and they confirmed it — actually God’s “covenant” in Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy with the Jewish people is NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY AND NOT ABOUT A CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A WAY OF BEHAVING.
Again and again in the “covenant” language He never says: “I will give you, ethnic Israelites, the land of Israel.” Rather He says something far more radical — far more subversive — far more Godlike in my view.
He says:
“IF you visit those imprisoned…act mercifully to the widow and the orphan…welcome the stranger in your midst…tend the sick…do justice and love mercy…and perform various other tasks…THEN YOU WILL BE MY PEOPLE AND THIS LAND WILL BE YOUR LAND.”
So “my people” is not ethnic — it is transactional. We are God’s people not by birth but by a way of behaving, that is ethical, kind and just. And we STOP being “God’s people” when we are not ethical, kind and just. And ANYONE who is ethical, kind and just is, according to God in Genesis, “God’s people.”
And the “contract” to “give” us Israel is conditional — we can live in God’s land IF we are “God’s people” in this way — just, merciful, compassionate. AND — it never ever says, it is ONLY your land.
Even when passages spell out geographical “boundaries” as if God does such a thing, it never says this is exclusively your land. It never says I will give this land JUST to you.
Remember these were homeless nomads who had left slavery in Egypt and were wandering around in the desert; at most these passages say, settle here, but they do not say, settle here exclusively. Indeed again and again it talks about welcoming “zarim” — translated as “strangers” but can also be translated as “people/tribes who are not you” — in your midst."
https://www.darkmoon.me/2014/jews-chosen-people/
Jews live in a mirror world of projection. Israel is suposd to be the only open borders country in the world.
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[ + ] yesiknow
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he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar—
the Lord Almighty is his name:
36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,”
declares the Lord,
“will Israel ever cease
being a nation before me.”
37 This is what the Lord says:
“Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,”
declares the Lord.
Leviticus 26:14-46
But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments; And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.
And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your
heaven as iron, and your earth as brass: And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.
And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.
I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.
And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me;
Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence
and more to that one
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