Well how much time do you have? Look any vax has the potential to cause autoimmune syndrome because theoretically any immune reaction can go sideways and this is particularly true of people with a family history of autoimmune disease, especially women and people under 50.
Viruses and bacteria evolve to look like your body tissue. By presenting proteins similar to your body’s proteins, a microbe can evade your immune system long enough to reproduce and spread to other organisms. Molecular mimicry. So sometimes when your body produces antibodies to that microbe, it also targets your own tissue and then you may have a chronic disease for life. Many vaccines add adjuvants like squalene and aluminum which hyperactivate immune response and these additives increase the probability of developing autoimmunity.
Many vaccines also result in anaphylactic reactions.
There have been many problems specific to some vaccines. Polio is believed to have caused cancer due to a monkey virus used in its development. Then there is the peanut oil that caused many allergies.
Like any medical intervention one must weight the risks against the benefits. Which is hard to do when the government and big pharma are hiding data. CDC literally has a policy on the books to keep data from the public which may discourage the population from being vaxxed.
But clearly of the 70 odd jabs recommended by the CDC for children to receive prior to 18, most are unecessary. Its not wise to challenge a child’s immune system that frequently for minor illnesses and illnesses that are of very low risk to people who are not highly promiscuous or immigrants or intravenous drug users.
I think some vaxxes have been used very badly. The flu vax should not be used on anyone other than seniors and immunocompromised people. Vaxxing everyone every year with the same vaxx will encourage a superstrain that is successful in a high number of people. Natural outbreaks of flu by different strains in different regions at different times actually helps keep flu from being very bad in any given year.
There is a phenonmenon that occurs with some leaky vaccines and a good example of it is the vax for marek’s disease in chickens. Vaccines that leak can actually cause MORE virulent deadly strains.
Then there is ADE. It can happen theoretically with any virus that can infect immune cells through the Fc receptor. The classic examples are dengue fever vax and rsv vax which caused kids to get sicker who were vaxed. This is arguably happening now in some people receiving the covid vaxx. The fact that the CDC is not performing autopsy studies on vaccinated people who died of covid is very telling. ADE type cases have some tell-tale distinguishing signs. I suspect that the period right after vaccination where vaccinated people have an elevated 2x or 3x susceptiblity to covid is in fact the ADE phenomenon. The covid vax induces some good (neutralizing) antibodies and some bad (non-neutralizing ) antibodies that bind to the wrong part of the virus and actually help it to infect macrophages (white blood cells), accelerating infection. The good antibodies tend to cancel out the bad ones at first. But as time goes on the virus evolves to evade the good antibodies while the bad antibodies still bind well to the virus and help it to replicate. These new strains succeed because they have lower affinity to the neutralizing antibodies. I can elaborate further on this phenomenon if you like.
The risks from actually receiving the covid vaccine besides the fact that it may actually work against you if you catch covid are many, but number one seems to be the clotting problem. The vaccine is being absorbed by the endothelials lining your capillaries and other blood vessels. That is where the cells are producing much of the spike protein, inducing a strong inflamatory reaction which leads to damage and clotting. These microscopic clots can clog up blood supply to your brain (vaccine headache is really microstrokes) and other organs, like testes or placenta. Larger clots can form especially in diabetics, people on oral contraceptives, alcoholics, people with sickle cell trait, dehydrated people and cause infarctions, strokes, embolisms in lots of different organs. People who take this jab while pregnant are insane. Spontaneous abortions after this shot are around 80 or 90 percent prior to 24 weeks gest. Old people with a lot of occlusions in there blood vessels are particularly susceptible to these vascular problems. And of course all these clotting usually results in some level of thrombocytopenia. Which is why so many were complaining about heavy periods. They have no platelets.
Do I have time to go into the prion-like domain on the end of this spike protein that may induce neurodegenerative disease down the line? Is the spike protein mutagenic? There was no aames test performed on this vaccine as is SOP with vaccines. So we dont know. But the mRNA tech seems to be depositing a lot of this vaccine in the bone marrow as well as the lymph system so I think the odds are decent that we could see some leukemia and lymphomas in a few years. How about the tranverse myelitis we’ve been seeing, and the weird movement disorders? The people dropping dead of stevens-johnsons syndrome? I could go on and on and on.
Seems like a hell of a lot of risk for something thats not working. Its not working. This vaccine worked well on a virus that existed 8 months ago. But it immediately evolved in to a resistant strain almost immediately withing 3 months or so. Predictably. And this will happen over and over and over. Because evolution is a real thing. This is like given antibiotics to everybody and then wondering whether an antibiotic resistant strain of bacteria will result. It will and the more people use antibiotics the faster it will be. Which is exactly why this vaccine aint working. Viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated are now IDENTICAL. No benefit. Vaccinated people can’t handle the fact that they risked their lives for nothing and they want everyone else to do the same.
But Im ignorant rite? I don’t understand the science rite? Im smarter than you vaxhole. AMA.
The flu vax should not be used on anyone other than seniors and immunocompromised people.
Every person I have ever known who gets the flu jab gets the flu every winter. No exceptions (it's mandatory here if you work in health.) It's insane.
Leukemia and lymphomas? This keeps getting more nightmarish.
There is no way this would have been any worse had we been left alone to deal with covid as with any other life risk. Then again, we have the greedy, the stupid, and the evil in charge.
Since I have regularly taken vit. C., I rarely even get a cold, and if I do, it is sniffles and the occasional cough/sneeze for a day or two.
D-3, you need to be careful with, you can "(((OD)))" on that. I get plenty of sunshine, but I do supplement that with a 500iu dose daily just not too fuck around. Of course I do drink my fair share of alcohol, so it is best to do research on this topic. Something to start off with:
I was just reading some studies on absorption and vitamin C. Seems there’s really sort of a hard limit in terms of absorbsion of the typical water soluable ascorbic acid and at 2 or 3 grams you don’t get much more than at 500 mg. But liposomal C seems to get much higher plasma levels at high doses. Ive been fucking around with the regular stuff but I think Ill buy some liposomal form now. I really want to crank up the C if I get the covid.
The problem with zinc is that it blocks the absorption of copper and maybe iron. So then you have to think about supplementing that shit too.
The problem with a flue vaccine is they give everyone an identical strain. In the country or in many countries.
A wild form flu infection is not dangerous except in a very small population. A wild form infection will give you better immunity than a vaccine. Almost always.
But the way natural outbreaks occur is never nation wide or continent wide. Its always regional. When an area gets hit, herd immunity goes up and that place doesn’t get hit again for several years because people’s immunities take a while to wane and the virus needs to go through several mutations to reinfect the same people.
But by vaccinating everyone with the same identical strain, you are setting up conditions for a single strain to be highly successful in vaccinated people. Its just so dumb. I think vaccine companies/the CDC understand that you can “addict” a population to vaccines, creating a need to get vaccinated over and over because the more people rely on vaccines, the more certain inherent problems of vaccines crop up, which seem to be solved by vaccines, but they are actually created by them. This should be obvious to people who really think about viruses from an evolutionary POV. But people don’t .
leukemia and lymphomas
Yeah. So we know there are quite a few viruses/bacteria that cause cancers (and also probably neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimers and Parkinsons and some other dementia type shit due to protein misfolding) — papillomas, herpes, hepatitis viruses, h. Pylori, and probably a bunch of others we don’t know about yet. SARS COV 2 was engineered to be a cell destroyer. That spike protein is like molecular barbed wire. And we know it has some prion like behaviors that could potentially cause protein misfolding in the brain. It may be shown to cause cancer.
A lot of cancers that occur in early or mid life have been linked to or suspected to be caused by infectious pathogens. Just another good reason not to sleep around — cancer.
This virus causes a lot of damage to cells and that damage could be genetic— leading to cancer and infertility. If a lot of this vaccine is going to the bone marrow I would expect leukemia. If a lot of it is going to the lymph nodes — lymphoma. I guess we’ll know in ten or twenty years.
It's irrelevant why or whether they are dangerous. Could be a vitamin injection. Would make no difference.
What is dangerous is thinking that you have the right to force others to undergo any kind of medical procedure, or stick anything in their body, to suit your whims, or calm your fears, or for any other excuse you may come up with, with no regard for their will.
What is dangerous is blackmailing, coercing or otherwise threatening people, and taking from them their livelihoods, just because they won't submit to your demands, or allow you to modify or interfere with their bodies however you please.
What is dangerous is labeling others "antivaxxers" to dehumanize them, and blame them for all of your ills, and all the restrictions you face, even though they are not the ones imposing anything on you, and are only victims themselves, and simply want to be left in peace.
What is dangerous is gleefully celebrating their suffering, and cheerleading for those who are causing it, because you're just so very pleased with yourself, for giving in to the demands, as if that's an accomplishment to be proud of.
What is dangerous is buying into corporate dogma, so hard that you don't even notice that you've become a mindless zealot, serving their interests, and lining their pockets with billions, at the expense of everyone around you, including yourself.
I don’t know if I’ll stick around. I don’t know how you have the patience to talk to these people anymore. There’s like 3 people total on this website that even know what fascism is. Most think it’s just capitalism without niggers and jews witch is an oxymoron. I’ve since found communities on telegram full of people who actually know what the fuck they are talking about or have been reading books. I’ll mostly use this website to message people but it’s hopeless seeing 90% of the voat population believing in red vs blue and the “rule of law.” Most people in this movement just aren’t very bright when it comes down to it.
Most people in this movement just aren’t very bright when it comes down to it.
Now there's a sad truth. Then again, neither are most of our enemies. Most people in general are mindless followers. If anything, being stubborn and difficult to convince is a good sign. I try to keep that in mind, and not be too hard on our fools.
Hugh, Hugh...you're having a bad day. It's unusual for a man of corn, cabbages and celery to be so aggressive! Tilling the land is meant to bring out the sweet nature in us. Perchance have your crops withered because the climate has changed?
that's what you said to your teachers at school, Hugh: " don't lecture me" and so they didn't.They gave up on you and...your education and therein lies the problem.
Thanks Hugh. We know you're going through a difficult time as you deal with life's changes. We are here for you bro, here for you. I have only one question for you - where do you stand on Jehovah's Witnesses? I hate 'em, absolutely hate 'em.
Shadow-banned for three (3) days. I'm sorry, Hugh. It's not a decision I've made lightly but you're out of line. You've been very obstreperous (look it up) lately. Yes, these are bleak times but we must try and cope.
It's interesting that you spend so much time reading my account history and comments. That's totally not suspicious or creepy behavior at all. Nope. Perfectly normal.
Why did autism skyrocket after aluminum was added to adjuvant and why do kids with autism have abnormally high amounts of aluminum in their brains? Why is there a lack of autistic amish kids (they don't vaccinate)
You got this backwards. It’s up to you to prove they’re safe. And theres incredible fraud and open lies infesting literally every source you can draw info from, that you have to overcome.
Many people who are called "Antivaxxers" are not antivax. They're just Anti-Covid vax.
The Covid vaccines, according to the vaccine manufacturers themselves, make it so vaccinated people have symptoms that are less severe, they're less likely to clog up the healthcare system, and less likely to die.
But the important part of that is, the vaccinated people have symptoms that are less severe..... when they're infected and contagious with Covid.
They still catch Covid. They still become contagious and spread Covid. The vaccines only make it so that when they are infected and contagious, their symptoms are less severe. So that they are spreading the virus without even knowing it.
Some of the so called "antivaxxers" are people who do want to have symptoms when they catch Covid. So that they know when they are contagious, and can take steps to keeping others safe. They'd rather fight Covid for a few days, instead of unknowingly spreading the virus, prolonging the pandemic, and killing others. They see the vaccinated as selfish people and as super spreaders. Which is true. They are.
Also, right now (I hate using American numbers for Covid and hospitalizations because of the lack of free healthcare) but in Canada - between 1 and 2 percent of Covid cases require some form of hospitalization. If someone is healthier than 2% of the population, they don't need the vaccine to keep them alive and out of the hospital.
The Covid "vaccines" are not traditional vaccines. They aren't a small dose of the virus. They don't make you immune. Which raises a valid questions -
- Because the "vaccine" helps your immune system fight the virus, if you catch Covid while vaccinated, will you gain lifelong immunity? Or will your immunity fade with the vaccine, because the vaccine is doing much of the work for your immune system? Right now studies are showing that the vaccines are nearly useless after 8 months.
Many "antivaxxers" support traditional vaccines that make people immune. But the Covid vaccines only lessen the symptoms, turning the vaccinated into super spreaders. Also, many "antivaxxers" just want to know when they are contagious so they can protect others. And be certain that after they catch Covid, they are immune and will not become infected or contagious ever again.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 27 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 19:43:43 ago (+27/-0)
Viruses and bacteria evolve to look like your body tissue. By presenting proteins similar to your body’s proteins, a microbe can evade your immune system long enough to reproduce and spread to other organisms. Molecular mimicry. So sometimes when your body produces antibodies to that microbe, it also targets your own tissue and then you may have a chronic disease for life. Many vaccines add adjuvants like squalene and aluminum which hyperactivate immune response and these additives increase the probability of developing autoimmunity.
Many vaccines also result in anaphylactic reactions.
There have been many problems specific to some vaccines. Polio is believed to have caused cancer due to a monkey virus used in its development. Then there is the peanut oil that caused many allergies.
Like any medical intervention one must weight the risks against the benefits. Which is hard to do when the government and big pharma are hiding data. CDC literally has a policy on the books to keep data from the public which may discourage the population from being vaxxed.
But clearly of the 70 odd jabs recommended by the CDC for children to receive prior to 18, most are unecessary. Its not wise to challenge a child’s immune system that frequently for minor illnesses and illnesses that are of very low risk to people who are not highly promiscuous or immigrants or intravenous drug users.
I think some vaxxes have been used very badly. The flu vax should not be used on anyone other than seniors and immunocompromised people. Vaxxing everyone every year with the same vaxx will encourage a superstrain that is successful in a high number of people. Natural outbreaks of flu by different strains in different regions at different times actually helps keep flu from being very bad in any given year.
There is a phenonmenon that occurs with some leaky vaccines and a good example of it is the vax for marek’s disease in chickens. Vaccines that leak can actually cause MORE virulent deadly strains.
Then there is ADE. It can happen theoretically with any virus that can infect immune cells through the Fc receptor. The classic examples are dengue fever vax and rsv vax which caused kids to get sicker who were vaxed. This is arguably happening now in some people receiving the covid vaxx. The fact that the CDC is not performing autopsy studies on vaccinated people who died of covid is very telling. ADE type cases have some tell-tale distinguishing signs. I suspect that the period right after vaccination where vaccinated people have an elevated 2x or 3x susceptiblity to covid is in fact the ADE phenomenon. The covid vax induces some good (neutralizing) antibodies and some bad (non-neutralizing ) antibodies that bind to the wrong part of the virus and actually help it to infect macrophages (white blood cells), accelerating infection. The good antibodies tend to cancel out the bad ones at first. But as time goes on the virus evolves to evade the good antibodies while the bad antibodies still bind well to the virus and help it to replicate. These new strains succeed because they have lower affinity to the neutralizing antibodies. I can elaborate further on this phenomenon if you like.
The risks from actually receiving the covid vaccine besides the fact that it may actually work against you if you catch covid are many, but number one seems to be the clotting problem. The vaccine is being absorbed by the endothelials lining your capillaries and other blood vessels. That is where the cells are producing much of the spike protein, inducing a strong inflamatory reaction which leads to damage and clotting. These microscopic clots can clog up blood supply to your brain (vaccine headache is really microstrokes) and other organs, like testes or placenta. Larger clots can form especially in diabetics, people on oral contraceptives, alcoholics, people with sickle cell trait, dehydrated people and cause infarctions, strokes, embolisms in lots of different organs. People who take this jab while pregnant are insane. Spontaneous abortions after this shot are around 80 or 90 percent prior to 24 weeks gest. Old people with a lot of occlusions in there blood vessels are particularly susceptible to these vascular problems. And of course all these clotting usually results in some level of thrombocytopenia. Which is why so many were complaining about heavy periods. They have no platelets.
Do I have time to go into the prion-like domain on the end of this spike protein that may induce neurodegenerative disease down the line? Is the spike protein mutagenic? There was no aames test performed on this vaccine as is SOP with vaccines. So we dont know. But the mRNA tech seems to be depositing a lot of this vaccine in the bone marrow as well as the lymph system so I think the odds are decent that we could see some leukemia and lymphomas in a few years. How about the tranverse myelitis we’ve been seeing, and the weird movement disorders? The people dropping dead of stevens-johnsons syndrome? I could go on and on and on.
Seems like a hell of a lot of risk for something thats not working. Its not working. This vaccine worked well on a virus that existed 8 months ago. But it immediately evolved in to a resistant strain almost immediately withing 3 months or so. Predictably. And this will happen over and over and over. Because evolution is a real thing. This is like given antibiotics to everybody and then wondering whether an antibiotic resistant strain of bacteria will result. It will and the more people use antibiotics the faster it will be. Which is exactly why this vaccine aint working. Viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated are now IDENTICAL. No benefit. Vaccinated people can’t handle the fact that they risked their lives for nothing and they want everyone else to do the same.
But Im ignorant rite? I don’t understand the science rite? Im smarter than you vaxhole. AMA.
[ + ] dulcima
[ - ] dulcima 2 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 20:25:11 ago (+2/-0)
Every person I have ever known who gets the flu jab gets the flu every winter. No exceptions (it's mandatory here if you work in health.) It's insane.
Leukemia and lymphomas? This keeps getting more nightmarish.
There is no way this would have been any worse had we been left alone to deal with covid as with any other life risk. Then again, we have the greedy, the stupid, and the evil in charge.
[ + ] ParnellsUprising
[ - ] ParnellsUprising 3 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 21:09:02 ago (+3/-0)
D-3, you need to be careful with, you can "(((OD)))" on that. I get plenty of sunshine, but I do supplement that with a 500iu dose daily just not too fuck around. Of course I do drink my fair share of alcohol, so it is best to do research on this topic. Something to start off with:
https://fitrecovery.com/vitamin-d-and-alcohol-nutrient-deficiency/
Zinc from what I have read is not gonna take in tabular form, and I am a little confused by some of the shit, but I would say for the most part you need to go natural with that:
https://www.aestheticsadvisor.com/2021/02/zinc-ionophores.html
Either that, or saute some spinach and shitakes, asparagus, etc.. It goes good with a nice steak and a dairy item.
Take what you may...
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 23:29:10 ago (+0/-0)
The problem with zinc is that it blocks the absorption of copper and maybe iron. So then you have to think about supplementing that shit too.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 23:16:41 ago (+0/-0)
A wild form flu infection is not dangerous except in a very small population. A wild form infection will give you better immunity than a vaccine. Almost always.
But the way natural outbreaks occur is never nation wide or continent wide. Its always regional. When an area gets hit, herd immunity goes up and that place doesn’t get hit again for several years because people’s immunities take a while to wane and the virus needs to go through several mutations to reinfect the same people.
But by vaccinating everyone with the same identical strain, you are setting up conditions for a single strain to be highly successful in vaccinated people. Its just so dumb. I think vaccine companies/the CDC understand that you can “addict” a population to vaccines, creating a need to get vaccinated over and over because the more people rely on vaccines, the more certain inherent problems of vaccines crop up, which seem to be solved by vaccines, but they are actually created by them. This should be obvious to people who really think about viruses from an evolutionary POV. But people don’t .
Yeah. So we know there are quite a few viruses/bacteria that cause cancers (and also probably neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimers and Parkinsons and some other dementia type shit due to protein misfolding) — papillomas, herpes, hepatitis viruses, h. Pylori, and probably a bunch of others we don’t know about yet. SARS COV 2 was engineered to be a cell destroyer. That spike protein is like molecular barbed wire. And we know it has some prion like behaviors that could potentially cause protein misfolding in the brain. It may be shown to cause cancer.
A lot of cancers that occur in early or mid life have been linked to or suspected to be caused by infectious pathogens. Just another good reason not to sleep around — cancer.
This virus causes a lot of damage to cells and that damage could be genetic— leading to cancer and infertility. If a lot of this vaccine is going to the bone marrow I would expect leukemia. If a lot of it is going to the lymph nodes — lymphoma. I guess we’ll know in ten or twenty years.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 11, 2021 09:31:10 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons 10 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 19:07:54 ago (+10/-0)*
What is dangerous is thinking that you have the right to force others to undergo any kind of medical procedure, or stick anything in their body, to suit your whims, or calm your fears, or for any other excuse you may come up with, with no regard for their will.
What is dangerous is blackmailing, coercing or otherwise threatening people, and taking from them their livelihoods, just because they won't submit to your demands, or allow you to modify or interfere with their bodies however you please.
What is dangerous is labeling others "antivaxxers" to dehumanize them, and blame them for all of your ills, and all the restrictions you face, even though they are not the ones imposing anything on you, and are only victims themselves, and simply want to be left in peace.
What is dangerous is gleefully celebrating their suffering, and cheerleading for those who are causing it, because you're just so very pleased with yourself, for giving in to the demands, as if that's an accomplishment to be proud of.
What is dangerous is buying into corporate dogma, so hard that you don't even notice that you've become a mindless zealot, serving their interests, and lining their pockets with billions, at the expense of everyone around you, including yourself.
What is dangerous is you.
Go fuck yourself, you useful idiot piece of shit.
[ + ] NukeisraelDeux
[ - ] NukeisraelDeux 1 point 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 20:44:24 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons 1 point 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 21:27:19 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] NukeisraelDeux
[ - ] NukeisraelDeux 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 22:12:43 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons 1 point 3.7 yearsSep 11, 2021 02:39:43 ago (+1/-0)
Now there's a sad truth. Then again, neither are most of our enemies. Most people in general are mindless followers. If anything, being stubborn and difficult to convince is a good sign. I try to keep that in mind, and not be too hard on our fools.
[ + ] PygmyGoat
[ - ] PygmyGoat 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 11, 2021 07:57:46 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 9 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 19:00:59 ago (+9/-0)
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri -5 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 19:35:00 ago (+0/-5)
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 2 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 22:26:44 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 11, 2021 23:56:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 1 point 3.7 yearsSep 12, 2021 08:33:24 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 3.7 yearsSep 12, 2021 21:54:29 ago (+0/-1)*
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 12, 2021 22:28:49 ago (+0/-0)
Now I ask, Why are you stalking me? Get your own life.
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 13, 2021 00:21:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 13, 2021 09:35:49 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Garrett
[ - ] Garrett 7 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 19:02:25 ago (+7/-0)
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[ - ] Flabbygasted 6 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 18:50:47 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 11, 2021 01:24:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri -4 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 18:56:24 ago (+0/-4)
https://www.news.com.au/
[ + ] Flabbygasted
[ - ] Flabbygasted 5 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 19:11:00 ago (+5/-0)
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[ + ] ParnellsUprising
[ - ] ParnellsUprising 4 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 18:43:41 ago (+4/-0)
https://archive.is/wip/ySdqZ
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[ + ] 3Whuurs
[ - ] 3Whuurs 4 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 21:19:14 ago (+4/-0)
And theres incredible fraud and open lies infesting literally every source you can draw info from, that you have to overcome.
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 11, 2021 04:45:19 ago (+0/-0)
The Covid vaccines, according to the vaccine manufacturers themselves, make it so vaccinated people have symptoms that are less severe, they're less likely to clog up the healthcare system, and less likely to die.
But the important part of that is, the vaccinated people have symptoms that are less severe..... when they're infected and contagious with Covid.
They still catch Covid. They still become contagious and spread Covid. The vaccines only make it so that when they are infected and contagious, their symptoms are less severe. So that they are spreading the virus without even knowing it.
Some of the so called "antivaxxers" are people who do want to have symptoms when they catch Covid. So that they know when they are contagious, and can take steps to keeping others safe. They'd rather fight Covid for a few days, instead of unknowingly spreading the virus, prolonging the pandemic, and killing others. They see the vaccinated as selfish people and as super spreaders. Which is true. They are.
Also, right now (I hate using American numbers for Covid and hospitalizations because of the lack of free healthcare) but in Canada - between 1 and 2 percent of Covid cases require some form of hospitalization. If someone is healthier than 2% of the population, they don't need the vaccine to keep them alive and out of the hospital.
The Covid "vaccines" are not traditional vaccines. They aren't a small dose of the virus. They don't make you immune. Which raises a valid questions -
- Because the "vaccine" helps your immune system fight the virus, if you catch Covid while vaccinated, will you gain lifelong immunity? Or will your immunity fade with the vaccine, because the vaccine is doing much of the work for your immune system? Right now studies are showing that the vaccines are nearly useless after 8 months.
Many "antivaxxers" support traditional vaccines that make people immune. But the Covid vaccines only lessen the symptoms, turning the vaccinated into super spreaders. Also, many "antivaxxers" just want to know when they are contagious so they can protect others. And be certain that after they catch Covid, they are immune and will not become infected or contagious ever again.
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 11, 2021 01:23:46 ago (+0/-0)
The bullshit they're calling vaccines these days are by definition not even actual vaccines.
HONK.