For the first 50 years of my life God, as the bible depicts, I was a God fearing Christian, at 63 things have changed. To summarize my perspective in as few words as possible it's like this. If the biblical God is the omnipotent, loving, caring and merciful deity that we are supposed to believe in, based on blind faith and 2,000 years of emotional rhetoric, and who is incapable of fault and who is the epitome of perfection, then why did not have the foresight to see that what he was creating, as human beings, was far from perfect, prone to temptation, unable to learn from previous mistakes and unworthy of living up to the "image" that emulates God himself? Why create something to watch it suffer when you know full well it will suffer? And why would an all caring and all loving God curse those he created in "HIS IMAGE" with an evil entity like the jew? Why are non jews on a level no greater than an ox or a mule who are to have their necks broken after their time is up? Why is there a "chosen people" favored by God? And why were the apostles and desciples tax collectors and money grubbing bullshitters? I personally don't care what people need to get them through life but I don't want their hypocrisy to dictate an evil agenda that affects me. There's something more to God to that what's Man knows...and ain't through a fictional character called Jesus Christ. AMEN = AMEN RA THE EGYPTIAN SUN GOD.
When I see a man walk on water or descend from the clouds with a chorus of trumpeting angels (another devine mirage) then I'll be convinced that there is a devine entity worthy of postulation...God is not who the bible claims he is.
I'm not much of a religious guy but in my interpretation of Christian mythology God created us and gave us free will so that we follow (or not) his ways and achieve Godhood ourselves. It is not certain whether we succeed or fail it's up to us. Why? I guess the cliche answer would be that God works in mysterious ways. The jews chose (free will) to betray God and are called worshipers of satan in Christian mythology. There is no chosen ethnic or racial group in Christian lore, anyone who follows his word is chosen.
Christianity was the original communism. They used the message of giving up your possessions, welcoming in strangers, not judging sinners, and feeling guilt and shame to spread degeneracy and distrust for the leaders of their society while encouraging more ethnic mixing and loss of pride in one's people. As it caught on among the lower classes, respect for the empire and its leaders disappeared and eventually the western empire collapsed. The orthodox church managed to put a different spin on things that encouraged a good work ethic and discouraged degeneracy but the catholic church ended up becoming a corrupt tool of the jews. Luther and other protestants tried to break away from jewish control but were corrupted over time and now mainline protestants are lgbt lovers and evangelicals are Israel lovers. Most branches of the church are subverted because the religion was designed to be easy for jews to subvert.
Clearly you wasted those 50 years learning some fake image of God based on the religion of men rather than actually knowing the Bible.
Now here at the end you reject the only hope you had because you were too lazy to know Him when you had the chance.
Your objections betray an utter lack of Biblical knowledge and reliance on false teachers telling you what it means.
If you had made the effort to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” You would know that the “chosen” and “predestined” aren’t any ethnic group or bloodline but those who would choose to believe God, as Abraham did.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
And
22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
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39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
There was nothing boiler plate about it. I answered you from the heart and included scriptures that clarify your obvious misunderstanding regarding who God's "chosen" people are.
It's those who would put their faith in Christ.
And good luck finding a church that teaches that obvious truth from the Bible. It's anything but boiler plate.
Are you sure? Because it seems like you've never read it. God flooded a bunch of people and animals, and that means all living and all caring to you? He allowed his people to become slaves over and over again.
Read the Bible. Start at the beginning. Adam and eve are our distant white ancestors. And the forbidden fruit is mixing with other races. The other commenter that says Christianity is communism is a kike. Christianity is national socialism more than anything.
So circumcision is torturing children? Is slapping a newborn on the back to get the fluid out of it's lungs torture too? Your argument reeks of desperation to find fault in God.
There is an actual benefit to slapping a child on the back to get fluid out of the lungs. Fluid in the lungs is bad. There are no benefits to circumcision and many horrible side effects, including death. That was an absolutely retarded comparison.
Unnecessarily removing flesh and nerve endings is the definition of torture
Lower cancer rates, lower infection rates, lower STD rates, there are several benefits to circumcision, especially in an era of lower hygiene standards.
I'm not saying I advocate for it today. I'm just saying it's in no wise torturing an infant.
So just for shits and giggles, I looked up the "study" about circumcision and STDs. Its clearly bullshit. Correlation does not imply causation. A much more likely explanation is that uncircumcised men have many more nerve endings and far less damage which would lead the them to be more promiscuous. Sex feels better for them, thus they are more promiscuous.
If they wanted an actual study, they would take men, cut and uncut, who dont have any STDs, and give them STDs, to see which group has a higher rate of STDs. Show me that study.
Good. I'm not asking you to trust me. I'm asking you to read that verse very carefully. If those are the words of a god that you worship, old contract or not, you need some help.
I'm not sure how I can get more specific than stating the exact verse I have a problem with.
I am genuinely asking questions to understand. I dont get it, so I ask people who believe it. And then each time you all turn out douchey. Why? Because I'm asking difficult questions. For "followers" of christ, y'all are dicks, unwilling to explain your beliefs.
You're the one who has been vague this whole fucking time. You know exactly why I believe what I do, but refuse to clearly explain your retarded beliefs.
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Now here at the end you reject the only hope you had because you were too lazy to know Him when you had the chance.
Your objections betray an utter lack of Biblical knowledge and reliance on false teachers telling you what it means.
If you had made the effort to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” You would know that the “chosen” and “predestined” aren’t any ethnic group or bloodline but those who would choose to believe God, as Abraham did.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
And
22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
...
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
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It's those who would put their faith in Christ.
And good luck finding a church that teaches that obvious truth from the Bible. It's anything but boiler plate.
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Read the Bible. Start at the beginning. Adam and eve are our distant white ancestors. And the forbidden fruit is mixing with other races.
The other commenter that says Christianity is communism is a kike. Christianity is national socialism more than anything.
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Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
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If I said that i used to torture children, but then I stopped, would you ever listen to me, or trust me?
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Unnecessarily removing flesh and nerve endings is the definition of torture
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I'm not saying I advocate for it today. I'm just saying it's in no wise torturing an infant.
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How is chopping a child's dick off (happens more often than you might think) not torture? You're beyond retarded.
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If they wanted an actual study, they would take men, cut and uncut, who dont have any STDs, and give them STDs, to see which group has a higher rate of STDs. Show me that study.
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I'm not sure how I can get more specific than stating the exact verse I have a problem with.
I am genuinely asking questions to understand. I dont get it, so I ask people who believe it. And then each time you all turn out douchey. Why? Because I'm asking difficult questions. For "followers" of christ, y'all are dicks, unwilling to explain your beliefs.
You're the one who has been vague this whole fucking time. You know exactly why I believe what I do, but refuse to clearly explain your retarded beliefs.
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