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Bill in play to grab your guns if a family member, spouse, roommate or law enforcement officer thinks you need "protection".

submitted by WittyUserName to Gunnews 3.5 yearsNov 7, 2021 19:00:05 ago (+25/-0)     (files.catbox.moe)

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If someone you know (or don't) thinks you might be a danger to yourself, they can go to the court and very compassionately have you surrender all your firearms.

But don't worry. Frivolous petitions will get the party a fine of $1000.

Archive Link:

https://archive.md/EeSm5 - H.R.2377 - Federal Extreme Risk Protection Order Act of 2021


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[ - ] QuasiVoat 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 20, 2021 11:47:08 ago (+1/-0)

That's fucked... thank you for posting this.

[ - ] Sleazy 4 points 3.5 yearsNov 7, 2021 21:00:38 ago (+4/-0)

This is where you anonymously report all the politicians and leftists that you can

[ - ] carrotcar 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 7, 2021 22:46:07 ago (+0/-0)

Fuck anonymously.

I will gladly pay any and all relatives the $1000 to report these fuckers.

[ - ] dassar 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 8, 2021 01:29:44 ago (+0/-0)

How about a mass call in for Law Enforcement when the gun down unarmed non-actively resisting Whites ?/ ....

[ - ] theBreadSultan 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 8, 2021 06:19:54 ago (+0/-0)

It's a minimum $1000 fine for false or frivilous reporting

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 8, 2021 14:01:45 ago (+0/-0)

they would have to prove its false

[ - ] theBreadSultan 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 9, 2021 07:29:52 ago (+0/-0)

Burden of proof is on the applicant who has to provide all evidence to support ex-parte application.
Because punishment for making bs claims is a subsection of the same law, it can just be determined by the sitting judge

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 9, 2021 19:20:19 ago (+0/-0)

And when they come to take your guns cause you are a user of websites like this, where wrongthink occurs without censorship.

for safety

you're obviously a domestic terrorist

Tell me, how high is their burden of proof going to have to be before the warrant is issued?

[ - ] theBreadSultan 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 13, 2021 05:20:35 ago (+0/-0)

first up -not my country not my laws, but i bave read the law :

Writing shit on a website is unlikely to warrant a win for the applicant. The threat will need to be specific (and obviously credible) against a person, or yourself.

"I wanna kill all insert group" isn't going to cut it.

The burden of proof varies between the temporary and long term orders. The burden of proof to obtain the temporary order is actually quite low, and the judgement is based on "the balance of probabilities", which is a much lower threshold than "beyond reasonable doubt" - and also, you don't get to defend yourself.

for the longer term order, the process seems a bit more robust.

basically it comes down to this:
When they cone with a temp order, if you kick off and act nutty, there is the proof they need to make it long term. If you are calm and cool, there is your evidence that its bs.

I can see what they were going for, nust be really frustrating if your "uncle bob" who lives oyt of state tells you he is gonna kill himself, and when you call his local police dept there is nothing they can do....

But it's a bad solution, and a badly written law that has been poorly thought out.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 13, 2021 07:15:47 ago (+0/-0)

Let me know how that works out when you are labelled a terrorist

[ - ] theBreadSultan 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 13, 2021 07:30:25 ago (+0/-0)

re-read the first line of my reply....let it sink in

[ - ] con77 2 points 3.5 yearsNov 8, 2021 07:08:22 ago (+2/-0)

soon they'll have quotas for disarming whites

[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 3 points 3.5 yearsNov 7, 2021 19:57:49 ago (+3/-0)

They want you helpless, so they can kill you safely from a distance with gas.

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 2 points 3.5 yearsNov 7, 2021 19:19:59 ago (+2/-0)

Remember that wanting your kids to be educated rather than radicalized now makes you a terrorist!

And that puts you on the gangstalking/counterinsurgency target list!!!

I was labelled a terrorist because I had a business and valuable property that the cops helped steal. The law means nothing when the masons want your money, property, arms and life.

At least this is more noticeable for the normies.

[ - ] Centaurus 3 points 3.5 yearsNov 7, 2021 21:38:41 ago (+3/-0)

And then they will tell you that there is no such thing as gangstalking. Gangstalking is a government run terrorist organization and every gangstalker deserves a bullet to the head.

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 1 point 3.5 yearsNov 7, 2021 23:45:01 ago (+1/-0)

It's based on narcissistic abuse and so was the plandemic.

Everyone is getting their first taste of this pathological deadly game. Soon they will recognize that we have been telling them the truth and they are next.

[ - ] theBreadSultan 1 point 3.5 yearsNov 8, 2021 06:38:03 ago (+1/-0)

A real doozy of a law, my favourite part is that the initial order can be mad EX-PARTE,
that's legalese for - they don't tell the 'target' this is happening, and the first you will hear of it, us when someone knocks at your door with a temporary 'take your guns order' - to have them taken long term (up to 180 days) requires a hearing which you can attend....HOWEVER...

and this is a BIG BUT!

Evidence that can be used against you includes, 'your resistance to letting them take your guns" and rather fuckung bizzarely, in what I hope is a legal first...

the acceptance of hear-say evidence...."Sam told me Gregg is feeling suicidal"

This combines with the low threshold of "probable" instead of beyond reasonable doubt is interesting also.

Silver lining: while an ex-parte 14 day confiscation order is easy to get, (and needs only a sworn affidavit from accuser), the full order requires the 'accuser' to provide evidence, and should be easy enough to overcome.

AS LONG AS YOU ARE COOL, WHEN THEY DELIVER / ENFORCE THE TEMPORARY ORDER.

I can see a lot of people getting fucked because of their reaction to temp order, providing the evidence that cists them a case, they would otherwise have easily won