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US naval veterans: Were you ever on a ship with a brig?

submitted by HughBriss to whatever 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 19:42:35 ago (+6/-0)     (whatever)

Few ships have a brig. I worked in administration and knew all of the legal and non-judicial proceedings that occurred. I remember one man went to NJP and was sentenced to three days of bread and water. (Yes, that's quite legal in the UCMJ.) He was kept in the brig, and he served his time stoically. It's the only instance I'm aware of during my time on board.

I was on a large amphibious troop transport vessel. Our normal complement was about 400 men, although that grew to 1200 when we carried marines. We had a medical officer, a dental officer, a chaplain, and a library as part of the ship.

The master at arms' office was prepared to hold temporarily men who were drunk or out of control, but no one was ever sent to the brig overnight.

I'm curious about others' experiences.


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[ - ] con77 2 points 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 20:30:48 ago (+2/-0)

They create a makeshift one when necessary.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 21:04:18 ago (+0/-0)

You're right. Any room can be a brig if a prisoner is locked in it.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 20:12:19 ago (+1/-0)

Not a Navy veteran, but yes. USS Iowa.

[ - ] HughBriss [op] 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 28, 2021 13:55:49 ago (+0/-0)

That's pretty much the way the brig on my ship looked. Small, cramped, and intimidating.

[ - ] SmokeyMeadow 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 21:50:13 ago (+1/-0)

I was never in the Navy, but I know for a fact the USS Yorktown had a brig because it was my favorite part of the tour.

[ - ] gimpyoldman 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 22:01:18 ago (+1/-0)

I was on a 6 month deployment on the USS Midway in '76. Our berthing compartment must have been near the brig. We always saw Marines in the passage way, and a couple of times saw them dragging a seaman screaming and crying down the passage telling him not to be a baby, it was only 2 days he was sentenced.

[ - ] 1Icemonkey 2 points 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 23:36:22 ago (+2/-0)

I’ve toured this great ship. Took my son to SD for his 18th birthday for a Chargers game and the ship was one of our stops. Absolutely incredible show of force. What an amazing experience.

[ - ] gimpyoldman 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 27, 2021 08:24:17 ago (+1/-0)

It looks like a big ship, but imagine being crammed in it with 5000+ other people. Since that experience I have been claustrophobic and can not be in crowds.

[ - ] HughBriss [op] 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 28, 2021 14:01:38 ago (+0/-0)

I completely understand. I still have dreams about being on my first ship. It was such a huge adjustment for and it left me imprinted with memories of that experience. I dream about such imagery like walking down passageways, going down ladders, the texture of the decks and the bulkheads, etc. It's difficult to describe it to anyone who's never been on a naval ship, but I recommend watching an old Twilight Zone episode, "The Thirty Fathom Grave", which was filmed on an old destroyer, to get an idea of the living and working conditions.

[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 22:11:52 ago (+1/-0)

I have no experience. But I noticed the brig in all the Star Trek series never had toilets. So, I guess they solved the toilet problem with the transporter?

[ - ] HughBriss [op] 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 28, 2021 14:04:50 ago (+0/-0)

True. I always wondered about that. I guess on a ship that has "sonic showers" (whatever that means) that you never saw, I imagine they didn't want to show how eliminate was done.

[ - ] ScheduledSuicide 0 points 3.3 yearsDec 29, 2021 15:20:17 ago (+0/-0)

Once a day they teleport all the feces out of everyone into space, forming a loosely Enterprise-shaped cloud of shit.

[ - ] PygmyGoat 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 1, 2021 03:45:26 ago (+0/-0)

Kinda. The transporter and replicator were based off the same tech. All the waste gets recycled into the replicator system and reused as other replicated food, etc. Not sure how they dealt with it in the brig because you’re right, there was never anything there for them, unless it came out of the wall or something when needed.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 1, 2021 04:41:07 ago (+0/-0)

Well, I was kinda thinking Chief O'Brian was just transporting turds out of each crew member every day.

Remember that episode where they went into that nebula and it gave everyone explosive diarrhea? And the only crew member who wasn't affected was Data? And so Data had to drive the Enterprise out of the nebula?

I think that episode was called "Captain's Log".

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 27, 2021 04:02:42 ago (+1/-0)

No brig on a submarine but I think I remember that there was a space that could be used for that purpose. We were all in prison anyway so the best punishment was to force you to do your job a few extra times and lose more sleep.

[ - ] i_hate_sodomites 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 28, 2021 11:47:38 ago (+1/-0)

One of my friends served on a nuclear submarine. He said there was no brig, but if a sailor did something he was either a) sentenced to multiple duty rotations (so, like, no sleep) or locked in his cabin with a marine standing outside. Most sailors, he said, couldn't take either of these punishments and folded pretty much immediately. After 12 years on sub duty he mustered out and told me 'sub sailors are the worst, most cowardly faggots ever" and he was so glad to be rid of them (he ran the nuke plant on the sub at the end, and he hated his lazy, sloppy co-workers).

[ - ] HughBriss [op] 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 28, 2021 13:53:39 ago (+0/-0)

I'm surprised to hear that your friend considered sub sailors to be lazy and sloppy, although I've known several and they were some of the most arrogant people I'd ever known. It's very difficult duty and requires a certain temperament in men, but I think it really goes to their head. I get the impression that sub duty is like an extended endurance test, where you're constantly working, qualifying for stations, and have no personal time except for a little sleep and hygiene, and even that is pretty limited. It sounds like being in a cult.

[ - ] i_hate_sodomites 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 8, 2021 00:52:20 ago (+0/-0)

That, and it's full of fags. You know who likes being trapped at sea with only men for months on end? It's fags. Subs are full of fags. He fucking hated being trapped with fags. He told me that fags only care about pounding ass or getting it the ass, and could never be trusted to do their job - because they were too busy trying to get ass. That's why he mustered out; because the majority of his crew cared nothing whatsoever except for how much shit they could get on their dick, while the minority was doing all the work. And the fucking Navy didn't care, so long as the job got done. Fuck the fags; fuck them all to hell....

[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 26, 2021 20:59:38 ago (+0/-0)

can't you just chain them to a urinal or something? Especially the girls.

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 27, 2021 04:31:49 ago (+1/-1)

yeah, well, I, an Australian who has never left Australia, have been on the USS Missouri.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 28, 2021 14:23:12 ago (+0/-0)

Sounds Missourable.

[ - ] imjgalt 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 27, 2021 11:45:43 ago (+0/-0)

Yep, got locked in it too.

[ - ] HughBriss [op] 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 27, 2021 12:09:13 ago (+0/-0)

Aw, shit, sorry to hear that. How long?

[ - ] imjgalt 0 points 3.3 yearsDec 29, 2021 12:54:21 ago (+0/-0)

couple hours got drunk and ran my mouth