I know you could say "feudalism", but that's a pretty marxist system, it's certainly not something those dirty capitalist bastards would call their own. (even though it's clear that anarcho capitalism will eventually lead back to the feudal system and warring monarchist states, and ancaps seem to be aware of this, but they don't seem to care, in fact, a good number if them like to fantasize about becoming kings under their system, though almost all will end up as lowly peasant serfs.)
When it comes to the matters of heaven, the two are different, but aside from the conflict between the pacifism and millenarianism of Christianity and the violent and revolutionary ideas of marxism (which separated them on how to establish the earthly society they both desire), the two are in full agreement on everything else, especially when it comes to what kind of society they want to have (meaning they agree fully on all the details regarding how to run their earthly utopia once it has been established).
Jesus and marx are in full agreement with so many policies, its like they are quoting the other's ideas verbatim, you read the words of one and see the quotes of the other jumping out at you from the page, it's like each of the two was inspired by the other, and directly referring to them in their books.
One beleives in the supernatural the other does not, one wants to use violent revolutions to seize control of the world, the other thinks God will just hand it over to them if they play nicely, these distinctions really don't matter, as the end result if either karl or christ having what they want is going to turn out the sane fir anyone living under their rule, every law and policy supported by one of the two at this point is the exact same as what you'd find being supported by the other, thet are in agreement and indistinguishable in this area.
The only difference would be that in one utopia you'd be required to pray and worship, and in the other you'd be banned from observing prayer or worship.
"Yes, nobody in history has ever misquoted someone, nor took up a false banner to gain attention from the gullible.
Nor has anyone ever plagiarized someone else's ideas.
We get it, things can be similar - doesn't mean they are the same."
I suspect your responses here are being intentionally vague.
- who's the one misquoting the other here? You give no impression as to who you accuse of doing the misquoting, nor of who is being misquoted. Both marx and Jesus never credited their words to each other.
- whose taken up a false banner here? You are just a vague on this point as the other, neither Jesus nor marx had taken up a banner for one another, one claimed to speak for God, the other for the working class, both had been seriously doubted with regard to their claims.
- things can be similar, without being the same, that is something integrated into my points, unlike you, I had made it clear where i saw distinctions and similarities, I wasn't just making statements that leave the reader guessing as to why I had written what had been written.
"You seem to be missing the times Jesus called out fake churches and spiritual snake oil salesmen who were lying to the plebs - freeing many from emotional, financial, and spiritual bondage."
- why do you say that? What had i said that has led you to think I am not aware of the sales campaign for Jesus that exists all over this site? Do you get the impression that I'm new around here?
A major problem with this is that your while point is that he stood up to a group of evil people that we hate (for good reason), but the only thing that could be taken away from that is that we share a common enemy, we both agreed that the enemy needed to go, but that doesn't mean we must agree on anything else, such as what should come after.
Is it not possible for someone to oppose evil, while being evil themselves? If evil is unable to oppose evil, what about the insufficiently good?
As you had said earlier, "similar" is not equal to "same", you dont have to agree with Jesus on everything (nor worship him as lord and savior) to stand in opposition to the jews, Hadrian fought against the jews more strongly than Jesus ever had, but he was not a Christian, he was a pagan polytheist who followed the hellenistic religion of Greece and Rome (though he was a monolateralist aligned with Zeus aka Jupiter).
Why do you think that agreement on one thing must imply agreement with all things? And why only in this one case? Is that not an arbitrary distinction?
"The guy was literally an ancient conspiracy theorist calling out the pharisees and the people who claimed they were "the law".
Yes, in addition to rightfully attacking the jews, he had wrongfully attacked the greatest gentile civilization of his time, like a fucking jew.
Thanks for reminding me of another good reason to reject Christianity, friend.
"It's ridiculous you can't see past the modern, suburban bastardization of Christianity and see the actions of a man who tried to expose the lies of the fake religions."
Projection, clear projection. You are the one promoting a modern extra-biblical version of Christianity, the kind only seen since the 1950s, my assessment of the faith is actually an assessment of what is written in its texts, specifically the most important texts of the Christian faith, that being the red text quoting the words of Christ the king, son of God, Savior of man.
You had never addressed a single line of the words of Christ in this non refutation, you dance around the fact that what Jesus had advocated amounted to a more supernaturalist and less violent version of marxism, kind of like the marxism that the hippies of the 60s promoted, which gradually mutated into showing its true face as being just plain marxism (like the "democratic socialism" of today does, adopt a more pr friendly face, but nothing more than yet another rebranding of the same old ideas that karl had all those decades ago).
"As you sit here and try to educate people on fake religions..."
"Ridiculous!"
Never said anything about "fake religions", but i can play along here.
Is it not possible that Jesus exposed one fake religion while advocating for another? Can someone who exposes the bullshot of another not be a merchant of just a different brand of bullshit (their own)?
Your entire case is that our enemy hates him, and that the hate was mutual. That's a start, certainly, but its far from enough to get me to align myself with them.
If anything, the game you are playing here is the same game bring played by the republican conservatives, acting as if condemnation from a source their voters hate is anything like an endorsement sufficient enough to buy their loyalty with.
Christianity is controlled opposition, the ideas are the same and when the communists establishment collapses, there will be a "moral majority" style Christian revival back to the days of the Bush years, with the same kike bankers behind it, rubbing their hands, readying up for yet another go at exterminating the goyim do they could enslave the world, this time under the cover of the Christian moral crusaders of the not too distant past, rather than the liberal ones of today.
I've seen both, and they rely on the same tactics for takeover and decline. If anything consetvative Christianity is used like a rocket booster, it allows the jews to build their power to a point, and once it's no longer useful, thet jettison it out like dead weight.
But afterwards, the boosters are collected to be reused in the next mission. It's a gateway drug, christ is a gateway to marx and vice versa.
OK Chinaman. Your words are ike magic. I'll erase every single thing I know from my inner being and put your words first and foremost.
Yeah no. I think we'll crusade China, but with more firepower. Then we're repossessing Israel just for kicks and razing it to the ground in Jesus' name.
My words are only saying that one ideology, which you seem to like, is just as bad as another one, which you feel more open in hating.
I'm warning you away from swallowing the same poison from another bottle, nothing more.
You still have a great amount of freedom to explore the options available to you I'm terms of religion and philosophy.
I'm not even saying you should reject Christianity IN IT'S ENTIRETY, just that theres some of the worst ideas of marx with regard to running the affairs if earthly society and earthly lives being endorsed by Jesus in the Bible, and any Christianity you do the up should ignore much of the advice Jesus had with regard to earthly politics, philosophy, morality, and much of the other advice that he gives pertaining to what you do in the here and now.
From your words on razing isreal and invading china, it seems you are already well accomplished in that respect.
But did the line, some people might look at the Holy Bible, word of God, and then to your actions, and they will condemn you for not bring a good Christian, and those who defend you would be unable to argue that your actions would be in line with what Christ Jesus would have tolerated being done on his name.
Especially seeing as his words in the Good Book condemn such activities from his followers in no uncertain terms, his feelings on such action are quite clear.
Ironically, marx distinguishes himself from your lord on this exact matter, and is wholly in favor of doing such things in the name of his cause, so maybe marx is the better choice for you, since you seem to agree with violence in the name of your beleifs.
Why not? You agree on one thing, if that's enough to get behind christ on, then that should set you up with the evil fucking yid behind the ussr.
It's interesting how the guys who follow Christ, who was, by biblical account and according to his own words within that account, a soft cunt who hated scrapping, so much so that he was willing to die painfully rather than run or fight for his life, would spend years portraying the guy as some martial badass who could take names at a moments notice, and who turn into edgelords and internet tough guys like you'd see out of 12 year old boys on the net in the 90s whenever their religion is called out for being what its own book explicitly claims it to be.
I get it, you are a tough violent guy who has a bunch of other tough violent guys, trying hard to cover for some embarrassing secret that would come back to bite the ass of your legacy long after you die, by talking a lot about how someday you are going to get your boys and come round to wreck my shit up.
Also with a healthy dose of trying to accuse me of being somehow associated with isreal, international jewry, the chinese communist party, or the chinese in general.
It's a pathetic impotent display of insecurity, and none of it addresses any of my claims in a way that even so much as makes the attempt to refute one of them.
Which is funny yet troubling for me to read, because I know I'm not a bot, nor chinese, nor jewish, nor communist, nor globalist, and not aligned (ideologically or otherwise) with members of any such groups or ideologies.
This doesn't address my arguments at all.
Weren't you the guy posting satanic pedophile art?
Commie cult indoctrination centers you go into debt to attend, for worthless papers whose value is sorely exaggerated by clueless idiots who like to give bad advice to gullible fools.
I was wrong, Jesus christ is the way, the truth, the light.
I pray that he forgive me for making this post, it is evident from.. this that my soul is hollow.
Jesus was an aryan king who stood for his people against their oppressors and told the truth that the children of the devil had feared.
The synagogue of satan had tried everything to trick, corrupt, and slander him, but he would not fall for their tricks, he would not be tempted into tolerating the presence of sin, and his light was made only brighter by their efforts to color it, as he used the opportunity to expose their tricks lies hypocrisy corruption and other evils, humiliating them in the eyes of their followers, and in the process, turning them truly unto God and everlasting life.
In desperation thet had him killed, but even this did not work against him, firbhe was truly the son of God, lord of lord's, who was the gift to his people to save them from sin, and to give then eternal life.
He rose from the dead, and blessed even those who had sinned against him, who were redeemed and went on to atone by becoming his greatest champions.
Jesus was evidently the lord on the flesh, the physical embodiment of God, he cured the sick, fed the hungry, cast out demons, brought the dead back to life, and he challenged those claiming to be the givers of the law who had been purveyors of wickedness and inequity among his people.
He pointed out their hypocrisy and allegiance to corrupt forces, called them hellspawn who were doing the work of their father, the devil.
At the end his legacy was secured and his work upon the earth had been done, he was returned to heaven after revealing that he was truly not of the earth, but from above, in thst he could conquer not just evil, but even death itself.
He left behind no doubt as to his divine nature and identity as the messiah, but still the jews spurned him, and worked their wicked ways against him, even after his death they curse him.
For he had dealt them such a great blow that they should never recover from.
Match onwards Christian soldiers! You have once taken the world in the name of your lord, ye shall do so again, resist the trials of tribulations, and remain strong in your conviction, so that you shall be in God's grace when his kingdom come! Deus vult!
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I suspect your responses here are being intentionally vague.
- who's the one misquoting the other here? You give no impression as to who you accuse of doing the misquoting, nor of who is being misquoted. Both marx and Jesus never credited their words to each other.
- whose taken up a false banner here? You are just a vague on this point as the other, neither Jesus nor marx had taken up a banner for one another, one claimed to speak for God, the other for the working class, both had been seriously doubted with regard to their claims.
- things can be similar, without being the same, that is something integrated into my points, unlike you, I had made it clear where i saw distinctions and similarities, I wasn't just making statements that leave the reader guessing as to why I had written what had been written.
- why do you say that? What had i said that has led you to think I am not aware of the sales campaign for Jesus that exists all over this site? Do you get the impression that I'm new around here?
A major problem with this is that your while point is that he stood up to a group of evil people that we hate (for good reason), but the only thing that could be taken away from that is that we share a common enemy, we both agreed that the enemy needed to go, but that doesn't mean we must agree on anything else, such as what should come after.
Is it not possible for someone to oppose evil, while being evil themselves? If evil is unable to oppose evil, what about the insufficiently good?
As you had said earlier, "similar" is not equal to "same", you dont have to agree with Jesus on everything (nor worship him as lord and savior) to stand in opposition to the jews, Hadrian fought against the jews more strongly than Jesus ever had, but he was not a Christian, he was a pagan polytheist who followed the hellenistic religion of Greece and Rome (though he was a monolateralist aligned with Zeus aka Jupiter).
Why do you think that agreement on one thing must imply agreement with all things? And why only in this one case? Is that not an arbitrary distinction?
Yes, in addition to rightfully attacking the jews, he had wrongfully attacked the greatest gentile civilization of his time, like a fucking jew.
Thanks for reminding me of another good reason to reject Christianity, friend.
Projection, clear projection. You are the one promoting a modern extra-biblical version of Christianity, the kind only seen since the 1950s, my assessment of the faith is actually an assessment of what is written in its texts, specifically the most important texts of the Christian faith, that being the red text quoting the words of Christ the king, son of God, Savior of man.
You had never addressed a single line of the words of Christ in this non refutation, you dance around the fact that what Jesus had advocated amounted to a more supernaturalist and less violent version of marxism, kind of like the marxism that the hippies of the 60s promoted, which gradually mutated into showing its true face as being just plain marxism (like the "democratic socialism" of today does, adopt a more pr friendly face, but nothing more than yet another rebranding of the same old ideas that karl had all those decades ago).
Never said anything about "fake religions", but i can play along here.
Is it not possible that Jesus exposed one fake religion while advocating for another? Can someone who exposes the bullshot of another not be a merchant of just a different brand of bullshit (their own)?
Your entire case is that our enemy hates him, and that the hate was mutual. That's a start, certainly, but its far from enough to get me to align myself with them.
If anything, the game you are playing here is the same game bring played by the republican conservatives, acting as if condemnation from a source their voters hate is anything like an endorsement sufficient enough to buy their loyalty with.
Christianity is controlled opposition, the ideas are the same and when the communists establishment collapses, there will be a "moral majority" style Christian revival back to the days of the Bush years, with the same kike bankers behind it, rubbing their hands, readying up for yet another go at exterminating the goyim do they could enslave the world, this time under the cover of the Christian moral crusaders of the not too distant past, rather than the liberal ones of today.
I've seen both, and they rely on the same tactics for takeover and decline. If anything consetvative Christianity is used like a rocket booster, it allows the jews to build their power to a point, and once it's no longer useful, thet jettison it out like dead weight.
But afterwards, the boosters are collected to be reused in the next mission. It's a gateway drug, christ is a gateway to marx and vice versa.
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Yeah no. I think we'll crusade China, but with more firepower. Then we're repossessing Israel just for kicks and razing it to the ground in Jesus' name.
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I'm warning you away from swallowing the same poison from another bottle, nothing more.
You still have a great amount of freedom to explore the options available to you I'm terms of religion and philosophy.
I'm not even saying you should reject Christianity IN IT'S ENTIRETY, just that theres some of the worst ideas of marx with regard to running the affairs if earthly society and earthly lives being endorsed by Jesus in the Bible, and any Christianity you do the up should ignore much of the advice Jesus had with regard to earthly politics, philosophy, morality, and much of the other advice that he gives pertaining to what you do in the here and now.
From your words on razing isreal and invading china, it seems you are already well accomplished in that respect.
But did the line, some people might look at the Holy Bible, word of God, and then to your actions, and they will condemn you for not bring a good Christian, and those who defend you would be unable to argue that your actions would be in line with what Christ Jesus would have tolerated being done on his name.
Especially seeing as his words in the Good Book condemn such activities from his followers in no uncertain terms, his feelings on such action are quite clear.
Ironically, marx distinguishes himself from your lord on this exact matter, and is wholly in favor of doing such things in the name of his cause, so maybe marx is the better choice for you, since you seem to agree with violence in the name of your beleifs.
Why not? You agree on one thing, if that's enough to get behind christ on, then that should set you up with the evil fucking yid behind the ussr.
It's interesting how the guys who follow Christ, who was, by biblical account and according to his own words within that account, a soft cunt who hated scrapping, so much so that he was willing to die painfully rather than run or fight for his life, would spend years portraying the guy as some martial badass who could take names at a moments notice, and who turn into edgelords and internet tough guys like you'd see out of 12 year old boys on the net in the 90s whenever their religion is called out for being what its own book explicitly claims it to be.
I get it, you are a tough violent guy who has a bunch of other tough violent guys, trying hard to cover for some embarrassing secret that would come back to bite the ass of your legacy long after you die, by talking a lot about how someday you are going to get your boys and come round to wreck my shit up.
Also with a healthy dose of trying to accuse me of being somehow associated with isreal, international jewry, the chinese communist party, or the chinese in general.
It's a pathetic impotent display of insecurity, and none of it addresses any of my claims in a way that even so much as makes the attempt to refute one of them.
You have no argument, where is your argument?
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This doesn't address my arguments at all.
Weren't you the guy posting satanic pedophile art?
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Get on my level scrub.
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Commie cult indoctrination centers you go into debt to attend, for worthless papers whose value is sorely exaggerated by clueless idiots who like to give bad advice to gullible fools.
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I pray that he forgive me for making this post, it is evident from.. this that my soul is hollow.
Jesus was an aryan king who stood for his people against their oppressors and told the truth that the children of the devil had feared.
The synagogue of satan had tried everything to trick, corrupt, and slander him, but he would not fall for their tricks, he would not be tempted into tolerating the presence of sin, and his light was made only brighter by their efforts to color it, as he used the opportunity to expose their tricks lies hypocrisy corruption and other evils, humiliating them in the eyes of their followers, and in the process, turning them truly unto God and everlasting life.
In desperation thet had him killed, but even this did not work against him, firbhe was truly the son of God, lord of lord's, who was the gift to his people to save them from sin, and to give then eternal life.
He rose from the dead, and blessed even those who had sinned against him, who were redeemed and went on to atone by becoming his greatest champions.
Jesus was evidently the lord on the flesh, the physical embodiment of God, he cured the sick, fed the hungry, cast out demons, brought the dead back to life, and he challenged those claiming to be the givers of the law who had been purveyors of wickedness and inequity among his people.
He pointed out their hypocrisy and allegiance to corrupt forces, called them hellspawn who were doing the work of their father, the devil.
At the end his legacy was secured and his work upon the earth had been done, he was returned to heaven after revealing that he was truly not of the earth, but from above, in thst he could conquer not just evil, but even death itself.
He left behind no doubt as to his divine nature and identity as the messiah, but still the jews spurned him, and worked their wicked ways against him, even after his death they curse him.
For he had dealt them such a great blow that they should never recover from.
Match onwards Christian soldiers! You have once taken the world in the name of your lord, ye shall do so again, resist the trials of tribulations, and remain strong in your conviction, so that you shall be in God's grace when his kingdom come! Deus vult!
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In future days, others will see that I was right.
I tried to derail mankind from the endless back and forth cycle of nations rising and falling.
But each was determined that the devil of the right was a true alternative to the devil on the left.
Even after seeing the kayfabe of political ideologies, they were still caught by the greater kayfabe trap of the duelling slave moralities.
I guess everyone not only needs their illusions, but also needs their illusions to actually deceive them.
It's laziness and apathy, a trait they share with the abyss dwellers who reject morality and purpose entirely to make beasts of themselves.
I rejected all of these, yet the bleating sheep in each pen accuse me of belonging to one of the others.
I do not, I am broken free. I ask you to follow me, you declare my act impossible, one must be chained.
Yet you have not even bothered to make the attempt to see that that were no chains to begin with, you could have left the pen any time you wanted to.
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