Has any other vaccine been marketed with the premise that it doesn't stop infection or transmission, but it will reduce symptoms and hospitalization. Is that even a vaccine? Wouldn't that simply be a prophylactic treatment?
The flu vaccine, which is weird because they say (atleast pre covID) there is no vaccine for viruses. So explain a flu vaccine then.as I’m under the impression the cold/flu are virus.
Cold/flu are viruses, yes. Someone might nitpick the following explanation, but I've got a minute to maybe help you, pal.
I've only heard there is no cure for viruses. You can take something for the symptoms, but your immune system is the cure. I can't think of a vaccine that isn't for a virus? Maybe there's something for bacterial malaria or some 3rd world shit... let me know if you ever look up that part.
The flu shot is based on predictions of which specific virus might likely be infectious this year. That's why it's effectiveness is shit. Even if it did work, it's not curing anything. It's just giving your immune system a headstart on a weakened virus.
To whomever cares, I've never had a flu shot. I'm just explaining how it's taught to middle schoolers. The flu shot is bullshit. I don't care if you think that smallpox vaccine in that one episode of Deadwood was bullshit, too. No, you're the jew.
I’m convinced these fucking kikes have been keeping the flu alive and kicking through these stupid flu shots. Just like this COHEN-19 (which is also the flu).
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Nope. Pertussis and measles both allow for catching and asymptomatic or mild symptomatic spread. Both are unable to be given to newborns. The theory is if everyone gets the vaccines than the viruses aren't in circulation and baby is protected. But if the viruses are on circulation (and they are, pertussis requires boosters every few years) than Grandma can get her vax, go shopping, get whopping cough, not notice, kiss grandbaby, baby gets sick, probably recovers but maybe dies. If unvaxxed you can just tell sick people to stay away. Those recently vaccinated against measles can actually sheds the virus and spread it to others. I can't remember off the top of my head if pertussis vax does that or not.
Flu vax is hilarious as it's a new vaccine every season, which is only somewhat randomly effective (like less than 50% in some years, 80% in others) at infection prevention, so mainly it is supposed to reduce severity of symptoms. But get this: it only works against specific strains of flu virus, and out of the many, many flu virus strains they pick a very small handful based on what were the dominant strains last season, what is dominant in the hemisphere currently and guessing.
So even if it was a good predicting year of which strains will be dominant, if you get any other of the many strains not covered by the vaccine, it offers 0 protection.
This occurred to me as well. I think their explanation would be that it 'works' by stimulating/training antibodies which are part of the 'immune' system. In this case, though, antibodies aren't enough. You need your 'killer T lymphocytes' to be trained as well. Hence the partial effectiveness--at least according to Michael Yeadon.
I think this is their excuse for using mRNA as well. It takes prolonged exposure to the spike protein just to get the antibodies engaged. Afterwards, the antibodies don't understand the other parts of the virus. Just injecting spike directly would mean you'd have to come back every day for a week. Better, they say, to reprogram a few muscle cells in your arm to produce spikes on their own. That process lasts several days before the muscle cells die off and get reaped.
At least two problems with this, according to Malone. 1) the oily/fatty packaging around the mRNA molecules has a positive charge and will cause blood clots if it crosses into your veins. 2) Even though it's only an appendage and therefore much smaller than a whole corona virus, spike proteins are still toxic in their own right. Injecting a spike factory into your arm means you've bypassed your skin and e.g., mucosal membranes with a substance that has comparable risks to whole corona viruses. The spike protein was chosen over other parts of the virus because the other parts cause "antibody dependent enhancement". Using a small part of the virus also means that any mutations (in the wild) which modifies that part, renders antibodies which target that specific revision obsolete.
The word has been raped of its meaning. At first it meant protection via bacterial exposure, then it was applied unsuccessfully to viral exposure, and now it applies to an injection which:
1. Isn't even based on exposure at all 2. Destroys the natural immune system 3. Has the obvious problems you listed
At minimum, everyone should be acknowledging the difference by saying (for example) "exposure vaccine" or "MRNA vaccine". Even better would be to scrap that word and instead use "exposure therapy" and "genome therapy". In the former case, some conversations/contexts may also need "bacterial exposure" versus "viral exposure".
Let's say that your immune system is a pair of sunglasses and the sun, like viruses, are actually not that bad but sometimes they can be.. like if you stared directly into it for example. Well, then one day they say that they accidentally made the sun a little bit brighter and you say... Okay well good thing I've got my trusty sunglasses here and they say... No, fuck your sunglasses we've got this for you to take instead and you're like... "What the fuck those are binoculars. That's retarded." And they're like... Actually, if you want to do anything anymore you're going to stare directly into the sun with these sunglasses we've designed specially to protect you. And to that you're like... "Those don't even fit the description of sunglasses, they're fucking binoculars." And to that they say, one sec we have to make a couple calls. Okay. And what was that you were saying about the description? Check again faggot. "Well, you changed the description but they're still not sunglasses." Bup-bup-bup-bup-bup. Says right here that they are.
I guess it was something like that. So... Essentially they want people to stare directly into the sun with binoculars on.
Come to think of it, aren't flu meds a covid vaccine by that definition? They won't stop you catching it or spreading it but if you do get it it won't be as bad.
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So explain a flu vaccine then.as I’m under the impression the cold/flu are virus.
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I've only heard there is no cure for viruses. You can take something for the symptoms, but your immune system is the cure. I can't think of a vaccine that isn't for a virus? Maybe there's something for bacterial malaria or some 3rd world shit... let me know if you ever look up that part.
The flu shot is based on predictions of which specific virus might likely be infectious this year. That's why it's effectiveness is shit. Even if it did work, it's not curing anything. It's just giving your immune system a headstart on a weakened virus.
To whomever cares, I've never had a flu shot. I'm just explaining how it's taught to middle schoolers. The flu shot is bullshit. I don't care if you think that smallpox vaccine in that one episode of Deadwood was bullshit, too. No, you're the jew.
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Take the medicine, goy.
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Those recently vaccinated against measles can actually sheds the virus and spread it to others. I can't remember off the top of my head if pertussis vax does that or not.
Flu vax is hilarious as it's a new vaccine every season, which is only somewhat randomly effective (like less than 50% in some years, 80% in others) at infection prevention, so mainly it is supposed to reduce severity of symptoms. But get this: it only works against specific strains of flu virus, and out of the many, many flu virus strains they pick a very small handful based on what were the dominant strains last season, what is dominant in the hemisphere currently and guessing.
So even if it was a good predicting year of which strains will be dominant, if you get any other of the many strains not covered by the vaccine, it offers 0 protection.
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I think this is their excuse for using mRNA as well. It takes prolonged exposure to the spike protein just to get the antibodies engaged. Afterwards, the antibodies don't understand the other parts of the virus. Just injecting spike directly would mean you'd have to come back every day for a week. Better, they say, to reprogram a few muscle cells in your arm to produce spikes on their own. That process lasts several days before the muscle cells die off and get reaped.
At least two problems with this, according to Malone. 1) the oily/fatty packaging around the mRNA molecules has a positive charge and will cause blood clots if it crosses into your veins. 2) Even though it's only an appendage and therefore much smaller than a whole corona virus, spike proteins are still toxic in their own right. Injecting a spike factory into your arm means you've bypassed your skin and e.g., mucosal membranes with a substance that has comparable risks to whole corona viruses. The spike protein was chosen over other parts of the virus because the other parts cause "antibody dependent enhancement". Using a small part of the virus also means that any mutations (in the wild) which modifies that part, renders antibodies which target that specific revision obsolete.
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1. Isn't even based on exposure at all
2. Destroys the natural immune system
3. Has the obvious problems you listed
At minimum, everyone should be acknowledging the difference by saying (for example) "exposure vaccine" or "MRNA vaccine". Even better would be to scrap that word and instead use "exposure therapy" and "genome therapy". In the former case, some conversations/contexts may also need "bacterial exposure" versus "viral exposure".
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I guess it was something like that. So... Essentially they want people to stare directly into the sun with binoculars on.
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