Thanks @garrett for not putting up another "Oh look how superior Asians are to White people in tests" thing. We all know that's true, but it's nice not to get slapped in the face with it. Again. LOL!
a lot of the testing such as in beijing has to do with wealthy students being tutored so naturally being better at the tests and then that being applied to all asians in the surrounding area
I believe as a former Korean resident that it has to do with their zero tolerance for narcotics to be honest asian people are far less liberal in terms of intoxication as a foreigner I could use mushrooms, acid or weed without being detected because they simply didn't engage in that kind of bullshit. If Europeans didn't have a liberal brainwashing on media, and school perhaps we would be even smarter then bug people.
[ - ] Garrett [op] 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 10, 2022 23:40:26 ago (+1/-0)
youll see in the articles i post why test taking ability isnt necessarily a sign of intelligence (abstract reasoning/ frontal lobe) but rather more of a sign of ability to memorize (temporal lobe)
Ok, there are issues with this asian vs european iq debate.
Im going to try and recall the chronology of these debates as i saw them online. It should be noted though, that there has always been an emotional tinge to the conversation when comparing the asian vs european iqs. And it followed the conversation as it was forced to change its tactics and it always carried that emotional peculiarity with it.
The first trend in conversation was simply african iq is 85-60, european iq is 100, asian iq = 103. I first got a glimpse of this conversation in '09 or '10 and it remained like this until 2016 when i, for the first time, engaged the conversation, when simpletons were advocating for the invasion of european countries, like america, because "derp slightly higher iq". I countered this by saying it doesnt matter because no asian people ever hit an industrial revolution on their own, its too late for it to happen and most importantly the asian iq bell curve is not the same as the european one, which can make for huge differences in the underlying optimization of mental resource usage (which is why iq is only a general predictor of success); the asian iq bell curve is steep, whereas the european 1 is flatter. The glib analysis of this is that, all else equal, the garbage mans intelligence isnt much different the scientist's (asia never had either of these occupations, prior to european intervention) and so it creates a contention between the two and ostensibly this is why asians never clearly made it past the bronze age, due to a strong persistence in bronze production until the end of ww2 in china, amd the planes and guns japan used were from technology provided by the europeans, ya know, since the wright brothers invented the airplane and the french and italians invented the gun.
Once this counter point spread around, the asian iq vs european iq people distanced themselves from the old conversation and tried sneaking in a matching bell curve
The new asian bell curve was changed to match the european one; A conspicuous change with not so much as a footnote to indicate this new "development". So then, in additional to that, i started calling out that there is less than a standard deviation between the iqs which makes it essentially indistinguishable. Then all of a sudden the old conversation died while it once again made a sneaky, yet conspicuous change to the conversation, where maps of iqs per european country was being posted, slightly decreasing the iq per country to 97-93 then thw asian countries were creeping up to 106-108 across the board, thus comfortably hitting the standard deviation bench mark. All of these attempts were futile due to the historic fact they we have already seen the results of who invented and discovered what. These data points where theyre attempting to gaslight everyone ablut european iq being lower, once again, conspicuously leave out that it is impossible for european iw to go down because its a relative scale where europeans are pegged at 100 always, therefore any differing iq is due to foreigners in those countries (which is not how this information was being used), and there was no explanation for how the asian iq magically rose. Most people know sigapore is basically a company town which is not using natives to determine iq, but the selected people they decided to pool there.
Also, when people say "asian iq" theyre talking about east asians, as se asian iq is thoroughly in the 80s, which is yet another indicator that iq isnt everything since these people with matching iqs of some africans are not violent and dont have the same micro behaviors.
All this being said, almost NO ONE should care about the iq debate outside of large differences like the african black vs everyone else. The reason no one should care is because whether you measure your iq or not, its still the same, and if you measure it and its lower than your expectations it might demoralize you, further under cutting your performance. If its high it might make you feel lazier (could also be a confidence boost), but if you dont measure it, it's going to perform where it should.
Also, i have confidence and faith in my eiropean brethren that we dont need anyone else to help us and any perceived bebefit from cooperating with others, asians for example, is throwing off our optimal path of our iq distribution. Weve already not only produced everything needed for our survival but far exceeded it, and we will invent or discover everything well ever need, without the need for anyone elses help
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 10, 2022 21:16:58 ago (+0/-0)*
You rule brother!
[ + ] Garrett
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[ - ] QuasiVoat 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 10, 2022 23:10:46 ago (+0/-0)
Interestingly the N.W. European IQ ~103 is not far behind the N.E. Asian IQ of ~106.
[ + ] Garrett
[ - ] Garrett [op] 2 points 3.1 yearsMar 10, 2022 23:14:39 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] Nagasaki 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 11, 2022 03:47:23 ago (+0/-0)
I don't know if that holds for figuring the complex intricacies of the true reality of life on this planet.
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[ + ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers
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Im going to try and recall the chronology of these debates as i saw them online. It should be noted though, that there has always been an emotional tinge to the conversation when comparing the asian vs european iqs. And it followed the conversation as it was forced to change its tactics and it always carried that emotional peculiarity with it.
The first trend in conversation was simply african iq is 85-60, european iq is 100, asian iq = 103. I first got a glimpse of this conversation in '09 or '10 and it remained like this until 2016 when i, for the first time, engaged the conversation, when simpletons were advocating for the invasion of european countries, like america, because "derp slightly higher iq". I countered this by saying it doesnt matter because no asian people ever hit an industrial revolution on their own, its too late for it to happen and most importantly the asian iq bell curve is not the same as the european one, which can make for huge differences in the underlying optimization of mental resource usage (which is why iq is only a general predictor of success); the asian iq bell curve is steep, whereas the european 1 is flatter. The glib analysis of this is that, all else equal, the garbage mans intelligence isnt much different the scientist's (asia never had either of these occupations, prior to european intervention) and so it creates a contention between the two and ostensibly this is why asians never clearly made it past the bronze age, due to a strong persistence in bronze production until the end of ww2 in china, amd the planes and guns japan used were from technology provided by the europeans, ya know, since the wright brothers invented the airplane and the french and italians invented the gun.
Once this counter point spread around, the asian iq vs european iq people distanced themselves from the old conversation and tried sneaking in a matching bell curve
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[ + ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers
[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 11, 2022 00:56:51 ago (+1/-0)
Also, when people say "asian iq" theyre talking about east asians, as se asian iq is thoroughly in the 80s, which is yet another indicator that iq isnt everything since these people with matching iqs of some africans are not violent and dont have the same micro behaviors.
All this being said, almost NO ONE should care about the iq debate outside of large differences like the african black vs everyone else. The reason no one should care is because whether you measure your iq or not, its still the same, and if you measure it and its lower than your expectations it might demoralize you, further under cutting your performance. If its high it might make you feel lazier (could also be a confidence boost), but if you dont measure it, it's going to perform where it should.
Also, i have confidence and faith in my eiropean brethren that we dont need anyone else to help us and any perceived bebefit from cooperating with others, asians for example, is throwing off our optimal path of our iq distribution. Weve already not only produced everything needed for our survival but far exceeded it, and we will invent or discover everything well ever need, without the need for anyone elses help