The cops don’t know that. Besides, if you saw a pack of three bodies charred to hell and blown to bits with a bunch of meth lab equipment would your mind go to murder?
I'm guessing he also knows about your other house. Would likely be a disaster if he went looking for her out there in the sticks with no help nearby in case she needed it. You might consider helping her get to a women's shelter far away where they can care for her and the kids while finding her employment and a place to live. If he cleans up, she can always reach back out to him.
DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, LET HER GO TO A "WOMEN'S SHELTER"!!!!! These are not helpful places! Every one that I've ever seen is nothing but an indoctrination center for feminist man hating lezbos! As one example, a woman that I know, went to one, not as a victim but as support for a friend of hers. Within two months they had convinced her to leave her husband and that she should be munching on carpet! Yes, women are stupid like that! Other women can talk them in to just about anything! So, unless you want to loose her and the children, stay away from "women's shelters"/indoctrination center!
You are spot on. I used to work security in a women's shelter in the cities, it was unreal the amount of indoctrination that went on in a place I thought was designed to protect women from abusive relationships.
Yeah, anything state sponsored would likely suck. Maybe there's something out there sponsored by a church or some other non-profit. Or maybe someone in his family has a friend that can lend a hand that the husband doesn't know. It's a shame that the worst situations leave folks with having to choose a crappy option.
edit: For fuck's sake, illegal aliens get housed, clothed, and fed everyday without the threat of arrest. Surely one of those charities could help out a citizen.
I see you're getting a lot of advice. I'm not going to tell you what to do. I'll just mention some considerations that I take seriously.
1. Getting involved in anything domestic is dangerous. Emotions run high. I've spoken with many police officers in my lifetime. Mind you, these weren't inner city precincts - more like small-to-middle-town America. They have all reiterated that domestic dispute calls were the most dangerous. One of my dad's good friends was shot in the face after simply knocking on a domestic call. The point is, when you start tweaking with a situation involving a romantic relationship (and children between them), you could be playing with fire, not for the least reason that since you are his friend, his reprisal might be even more frantic.
2. If you are getting a lot of this information from her (that is, secondhand), you should always remember that women are excellent at playing games. They are machines built to use sympathy to get their needs met; that often involves pitting men against other men, even if that means turning you into her rescuer. I'm not saying that's the case here, just calling it a consideration.
3. One moral issue here is the responsibility you come by from influencing the split. If you aid her and the children in leaving, they may be in a situation requiring help. The situation with the father might be bad, but it might also involve income, a house with heat and food in the fridge. I think people sometimes fail to register the responsibility they accept, especially when leading women away from one situation and into another. Bear in mind the possibility that she might look at you as a rescuer, and she might depend on you for help that you may not want to (or can't) offer.
I was once told by an old-timer, "You can take in every stray dog you find, but eventually one of them will bite you."
I don't take this to mean that we shouldn't be giving, or that we shouldn't do right when the situation calls for it. But, for me, it definitely means think really hard about consequences. I don't have experience with meth users, but where I come from alcoholism was a major and frequent problem. I knew some people who thought they'd be knights in shining armor too, and not only didn't they help the situation in some cases, sometimes they made it worse and negatively impacted their own lives. There's a lot to consider in these situations. For one, you have to ask yourself what kind of a woman winds up with a guy who is an alcoholic or a meth head - sometimes that kind of woman can be dangerous.
There's no compromise with meth users, especially ones that cook. My experience has taught me no half measures work combating this scourge. Once you are involved in a meth fueled drama you and your loved ones are targets for harassment. Especially if the user has government affiliations.
Had this happen to me almost exactly a year ago. Stay away man. Women have hundreds of women's shelters and services around the country. If you get involved it will fuck up your life guarantee it. Think of best case scenario.
Have you considered calling the police? Getting arrested might be the only thing that will make this guy get clean. I know a couple of people who had major meth problems and finally getting arrested is what saved their lives
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Depends, those places can be more dangerous than an abusive home sometimes. I've read some horror stories.
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The meth had she needs to get her kids away from won't leave the area he's getting his meth from.
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These are not helpful places! Every one that I've ever seen is nothing but an indoctrination center for feminist man hating lezbos!
As one example, a woman that I know, went to one, not as a victim but as support for a friend of hers. Within two months they had convinced her to leave her husband and that she should be munching on carpet!
Yes, women are stupid like that! Other women can talk them in to just about anything! So, unless you want to loose her and the children, stay away from "women's shelters"/indoctrination center!
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edit: For fuck's sake, illegal aliens get housed, clothed, and fed everyday without the threat of arrest. Surely one of those charities could help out a citizen.
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1. Getting involved in anything domestic is dangerous. Emotions run high. I've spoken with many police officers in my lifetime. Mind you, these weren't inner city precincts - more like small-to-middle-town America. They have all reiterated that domestic dispute calls were the most dangerous. One of my dad's good friends was shot in the face after simply knocking on a domestic call. The point is, when you start tweaking with a situation involving a romantic relationship (and children between them), you could be playing with fire, not for the least reason that since you are his friend, his reprisal might be even more frantic.
2. If you are getting a lot of this information from her (that is, secondhand), you should always remember that women are excellent at playing games. They are machines built to use sympathy to get their needs met; that often involves pitting men against other men, even if that means turning you into her rescuer. I'm not saying that's the case here, just calling it a consideration.
3. One moral issue here is the responsibility you come by from influencing the split. If you aid her and the children in leaving, they may be in a situation requiring help. The situation with the father might be bad, but it might also involve income, a house with heat and food in the fridge. I think people sometimes fail to register the responsibility they accept, especially when leading women away from one situation and into another. Bear in mind the possibility that she might look at you as a rescuer, and she might depend on you for help that you may not want to (or can't) offer.
I was once told by an old-timer, "You can take in every stray dog you find, but eventually one of them will bite you."
I don't take this to mean that we shouldn't be giving, or that we shouldn't do right when the situation calls for it. But, for me, it definitely means think really hard about consequences. I don't have experience with meth users, but where I come from alcoholism was a major and frequent problem. I knew some people who thought they'd be knights in shining armor too, and not only didn't they help the situation in some cases, sometimes they made it worse and negatively impacted their own lives. There's a lot to consider in these situations. For one, you have to ask yourself what kind of a woman winds up with a guy who is an alcoholic or a meth head - sometimes that kind of woman can be dangerous.
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