This is Russian propaganda. By attempting to paint both sides as the same, it puts most of the blame on the victim. "Yeah, Russia is bad for invading Ukraine, but Ukraine is corrupt too!"
It's sad to see that Voat falls victim to propaganda. Please visit polygraph.info to see Russian propaganda debunked.
polygraph.info is a subsidiary of VOA which is literal American state propaganda, imagine touting the modern day ministry of truth as this awesome source and calling yourself a rebel. You're a fucking fag dude
Not rly, the jew billionaires fled Russia during invasion or were arrested. Also those "nazis" in Ucraine are jewish led. They are the "muslims" in ISIS who were also jewish led.
Azov is based, don't fall for shill propaganda. What do you think shills will do with th reputation of the only successful militant NatSoc organization in existence? Let it be an inspiration to other whites or convince you dey are joos?
Here is a text from someone with a much better grpas then anyone here, me included.
James A's Rants and Presentations, [17.03.2022 00:17] Slandering Azov Battalion always boils down to three points.
1. They are funded/controlled(!) by Jewish billionaire Ihor Kolomoyskyi
2. They were armed by Israel
3. They serve the jews
1. This is false. There is simply no proof beyond one claim from an Israeli newspaper (Ma'Ariv) which in turn admit it's a rumour. In any case this claim would be debatable at best since even if there was proof that Kolomoyskyi funded Azov (which there isn't), Kolomoyskyi did not just put money into National Socialist hands, he blanket-funded dozens of volunteer battalions very early during the first clashes of the conflict in 2014. Azov did not have the reputation on May 5th, 2014 (when it was founded) that it does now. At the time it was just a group of Ukrainian Nationalists centered around Kharkiv FC (A football club) who formed a volunteer battalion. It's possible, though not proven, that while Ihor was handing out millions of dollars to dozens of new volunteer militias, some of that money found its way into Azov hands before they were well known for being National Socialist. That hardly makes Azov a creation of or owned by Kolomoyskyi. On November 12th, 2014, Azov Battalion was incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard after just 6 months as an independent outfit, and since then has been funded by the Ukrainian taxpayer. Finally, Ihor Kolomoyskyi "switched sides" (in quotations because he is a jew in Europe and therefore his only side is whatever is best for jews broadly and himself personally) and in 2019 began supporting Putin and Russia.
2. This claim has several forms, ranging from Azov bought weapons from an Israeli firearms dealer to Azov was armed by Israeli intelligence itself. Whatever form the rumour takes, it is factually incorrect. The root of this myth comes from Israel, specifically a group of Israeli NGO's who claim Azov has been using Israeli-made Tavor rifles.
In 2005 the Small Arms Division of Israeli Military Industries, a state owned weapons manufacturer, was privatized, giving birth to the private company Israeli Weapon Industries, who produced and own the license for the Tavor rifle system. These rifles can only be purchased from IWI. When pictures began to circulate of Azov Battalion allegedly with Israeli-made Tavor rifles, ill-informed leftists and Fascists alike took it as proof that Azov Battalion was being armed by the state of Israel.
However, these are not Israeli-made Tavor rifles, but Ukrainian-made Fort rifles via a IWI manufacture-license purchased in 2008. That's right, in 2008 a Ukrainian government owned weapons manufacturer (RPC Fort) purchased the rights from the private company IWI, who are in the business of making money, to license-manufacture Tavor rifle systems produced locally in Ukraine and renamed the Fort-221, Fort-222, Fort-223, and Fort-224. The license was purchased by RPC Fort in 2008, a full six years before Azov Battalion entered the scene in 2014. Azov Battalion has nothing to do with the fact that in 2008 a Ukrainian government owned weapons manufacturer purchased the rights to license-manufacture the Tavor rifle system.
James A's Rants and Presentations, [17.03.2022 00:17] 3. This is more of a fallacy than a specific claim. Zelensky, a jew, is the President of Ukraine. But Azov have been loud critics of the government for years. When the rebellion/invasion happened they defended their country, as Nationalists do, fighting for their people not the government. Furthermore the US government has been funding the Ukrainian military for years now, however in 2018 the Congress of the United States included a provision in their spending bill, which included a military aid package to Ukraine, which specifically banned any resources, training, or funds from being sent to Azov Battalion "based on their demonstrable white supremacist ideology". Furthermore, in October of 2019 Zelensky travelled to the front lines and told Azov Battalion to disarm and leave the front lines. This was done because having an openly Fascist (one day I will explain why I use Fascism as an umbrella term for specific and different forms of Fascism, such as National Socialism) state-sponsored paramilitary on the front lines made Zelensky's regime look bad (to the international liberal world) and slightly reduced the chances of Ukraine joining NATO. The result was Zelensky melting down on video that he was unable to give orders to Azov Battalion. This will be further explained below.
Now that the rumours are cleared up, let's look at the factual reality of Azov. It's a National Socialist paramilitary with their own political wing and youth camp, they help organize the largest National Socialist networking event in the world (Asgardsrei), and they have a militant impact on the National Socialist community in Europe, and the broad culture across the world. This is not "Nazi aesthetics". This is not "larping", these men are literally fighting in a war against the Russian military. This is the most well rounded National Socialist community in the world. They terrorize Ukrainian antifa, such as it exists, shape the next generation of National Socialists with their youth camps, and have a large impact not only on Ukrainian Nationalism, but on the state itself.
You can say you don't agree with Azov's goals of not surrendering to the foreign invasion like a true Nationalist should (This is literally what TRS and some others have been advocating), but you cannot claim any longer that they are jew puppets. Remember, von Papen and the conservative establishment thought they could use Hitler. In the same way, Azov's founding commander Andriy Biletsky has been publicly frank that he knows NATO and the west are using Ukraine/the Ukrainian military, which includes Azov, for their own means which are not in the long-term interests of the Ukrainian people. However, the flood of resources from the west (while the US has made it illegal to direct-transfer weapons, resources, and training to Azov, once they are given to the Ukrainian military there is nothing stopping it from going to Azov) gives Azov a great opportunity to grow National Socialism into a formidable force in Ukraine, which can one day perhaps take power in a war-torn and unstable country like Ukraine.
James A's Rants and Presentations, [17.03.2022 00:17] Faced with all this undeniable evidence, Russian/Putin supporters in the west will likely resort to "if they are so based how come they have not assassinated Zelensky/overthrown the government yet?". Read the paragraph above again. Azov knows that if there was a successful National Socialist coup in Ukraine, the billions of military aid from the west would dry up in an instant. In this scenario when the Russian invasion came Ukraine would stand even less of a chance than they would otherwise. Furthermore, there is no certainty an internal coup would be successful at this point. While there is a large amount of National Socialist sympathy across the Ukrainian Armed Forces (recently we saw NATO & a mainstream news outlet whose name I am forgetting tweet then delete 2 different pictures of ordinary soldiers wearing NS patches), the attempted coup might be unsuccessful/spark a civil war. Not all of Ukraine's military and state security services are pro-NS. Fighting a civil war while a powerful neighbour waits to invade or is in the process of invading is not very smart.
Ukraine, like all of Eastern Europe, is in a tough spot vis a vi Russia and NATO. However, realpolitik demands you do whatever you need to, make whatever alliances and deals you must, to deal with the immediate threat. Tomorrow's threat can be dealt with once today's threat has been dealt with. And to Eastern Europeans, even Eastern European nationalists from Finland to Romania (with pro-state Belarussian nationalists being the one exception) the greater threat is Russia, the Asiatic empire ran by devout anti-fascists who torture and murder National Socialists in prison, and who would tear down their statues to nationalists who fought with Hitler and German National Socialism, the greatest hope of the White race to date, and replace them with Red Army monuments to the men who raped and murdered their way across their homeland in order to crush that great White hope.
(Yes, this last article by consortium news was written by two mad jews, but it does a solid job documenting the amount of power and influence Azov have within the Ukrainian state.)
The Russian oligarchy is controlled by jews and they want to create an anti-white eurasian empire. Dugin is an anti white satanic occultist. The fighters in Donetsk rally behind communist flags and celebrate stalin, meanwhile the Azov Battalion wears sonenrads on their uniform. But no the literal communist stalin worshippers are actually the good guys and we just don't get it
in one speech Putin is pro-arab, the next he is zionist. In another speech he's anti-communist, and then pro. You can find speeches of him saying almost about anything, and he does this exactly because he knows dumb westerners will see him say something they agree with and go "WAOW PUTIN IS SO BASTE!1!!!"
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It's sad to see that Voat falls victim to propaganda. Please visit polygraph.info to see Russian propaganda debunked.
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Here is a text from someone with a much better grpas then anyone here, me included.
James A's Rants and Presentations, [17.03.2022 00:17]
Slandering Azov Battalion always boils down to three points.
1. They are funded/controlled(!) by Jewish billionaire Ihor Kolomoyskyi
2. They were armed by Israel
3. They serve the jews
1. This is false. There is simply no proof beyond one claim from an Israeli newspaper (Ma'Ariv) which in turn admit it's a rumour. In any case this claim would be debatable at best since even if there was proof that Kolomoyskyi funded Azov (which there isn't), Kolomoyskyi did not just put money into National Socialist hands, he blanket-funded dozens of volunteer battalions very early during the first clashes of the conflict in 2014. Azov did not have the reputation on May 5th, 2014 (when it was founded) that it does now. At the time it was just a group of Ukrainian Nationalists centered around Kharkiv FC (A football club) who formed a volunteer battalion. It's possible, though not proven, that while Ihor was handing out millions of dollars to dozens of new volunteer militias, some of that money found its way into Azov hands before they were well known for being National Socialist. That hardly makes Azov a creation of or owned by Kolomoyskyi. On November 12th, 2014, Azov Battalion was incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard after just 6 months as an independent outfit, and since then has been funded by the Ukrainian taxpayer. Finally, Ihor Kolomoyskyi "switched sides" (in quotations because he is a jew in Europe and therefore his only side is whatever is best for jews broadly and himself personally) and in 2019 began supporting Putin and Russia.
2. This claim has several forms, ranging from Azov bought weapons from an Israeli firearms dealer to Azov was armed by Israeli intelligence itself. Whatever form the rumour takes, it is factually incorrect. The root of this myth comes from Israel, specifically a group of Israeli NGO's who claim Azov has been using Israeli-made Tavor rifles.
In 2005 the Small Arms Division of Israeli Military Industries, a state owned weapons manufacturer, was privatized, giving birth to the private company Israeli Weapon Industries, who produced and own the license for the Tavor rifle system. These rifles can only be purchased from IWI. When pictures began to circulate of Azov Battalion allegedly with Israeli-made Tavor rifles, ill-informed leftists and Fascists alike took it as proof that Azov Battalion was being armed by the state of Israel.
However, these are not Israeli-made Tavor rifles, but Ukrainian-made Fort rifles via a IWI manufacture-license purchased in 2008. That's right, in 2008 a Ukrainian government owned weapons manufacturer (RPC Fort) purchased the rights from the private company IWI, who are in the business of making money, to license-manufacture Tavor rifle systems produced locally in Ukraine and renamed the Fort-221, Fort-222, Fort-223, and Fort-224. The license was purchased by RPC Fort in 2008, a full six years before Azov Battalion entered the scene in 2014. Azov Battalion has nothing to do with the fact that in 2008 a Ukrainian government owned weapons manufacturer purchased the rights to license-manufacture the Tavor rifle system.
James A's Rants and Presentations, [17.03.2022 00:17]
3. This is more of a fallacy than a specific claim. Zelensky, a jew, is the President of Ukraine. But Azov have been loud critics of the government for years. When the rebellion/invasion happened they defended their country, as Nationalists do, fighting for their people not the government. Furthermore the US government has been funding the Ukrainian military for years now, however in 2018 the Congress of the United States included a provision in their spending bill, which included a military aid package to Ukraine, which specifically banned any resources, training, or funds from being sent to Azov Battalion "based on their demonstrable white supremacist ideology". Furthermore, in October of 2019 Zelensky travelled to the front lines and told Azov Battalion to disarm and leave the front lines. This was done because having an openly Fascist (one day I will explain why I use Fascism as an umbrella term for specific and different forms of Fascism, such as National Socialism) state-sponsored paramilitary on the front lines made Zelensky's regime look bad (to the international liberal world) and slightly reduced the chances of Ukraine joining NATO. The result was Zelensky melting down on video that he was unable to give orders to Azov Battalion. This will be further explained below.
Now that the rumours are cleared up, let's look at the factual reality of Azov. It's a National Socialist paramilitary with their own political wing and youth camp, they help organize the largest National Socialist networking event in the world (Asgardsrei), and they have a militant impact on the National Socialist community in Europe, and the broad culture across the world. This is not "Nazi aesthetics". This is not "larping", these men are literally fighting in a war against the Russian military. This is the most well rounded National Socialist community in the world. They terrorize Ukrainian antifa, such as it exists, shape the next generation of National Socialists with their youth camps, and have a large impact not only on Ukrainian Nationalism, but on the state itself.
You can say you don't agree with Azov's goals of not surrendering to the foreign invasion like a true Nationalist should (This is literally what TRS and some others have been advocating), but you cannot claim any longer that they are jew puppets. Remember, von Papen and the conservative establishment thought they could use Hitler. In the same way, Azov's founding commander Andriy Biletsky has been publicly frank that he knows NATO and the west are using Ukraine/the Ukrainian military, which includes Azov, for their own means which are not in the long-term interests of the Ukrainian people. However, the flood of resources from the west (while the US has made it illegal to direct-transfer weapons, resources, and training to Azov, once they are given to the Ukrainian military there is nothing stopping it from going to Azov) gives Azov a great opportunity to grow National Socialism into a formidable force in Ukraine, which can one day perhaps take power in a war-torn and unstable country like Ukraine.
James A's Rants and Presentations, [17.03.2022 00:17]
Faced with all this undeniable evidence, Russian/Putin supporters in the west will likely resort to "if they are so based how come they have not assassinated Zelensky/overthrown the government yet?". Read the paragraph above again. Azov knows that if there was a successful National Socialist coup in Ukraine, the billions of military aid from the west would dry up in an instant. In this scenario when the Russian invasion came Ukraine would stand even less of a chance than they would otherwise. Furthermore, there is no certainty an internal coup would be successful at this point. While there is a large amount of National Socialist sympathy across the Ukrainian Armed Forces (recently we saw NATO & a mainstream news outlet whose name I am forgetting tweet then delete 2 different pictures of ordinary soldiers wearing NS patches), the attempted coup might be unsuccessful/spark a civil war. Not all of Ukraine's military and state security services are pro-NS. Fighting a civil war while a powerful neighbour waits to invade or is in the process of invading is not very smart.
Ukraine, like all of Eastern Europe, is in a tough spot vis a vi Russia and NATO. However, realpolitik demands you do whatever you need to, make whatever alliances and deals you must, to deal with the immediate threat. Tomorrow's threat can be dealt with once today's threat has been dealt with. And to Eastern Europeans, even Eastern European nationalists from Finland to Romania (with pro-state Belarussian nationalists being the one exception) the greater threat is Russia, the Asiatic empire ran by devout anti-fascists who torture and murder National Socialists in prison, and who would tear down their statues to nationalists who fought with Hitler and German National Socialism, the greatest hope of the White race to date, and replace them with Red Army monuments to the men who raped and murdered their way across their homeland in order to crush that great White hope.
James A's Rants and Presentations, [17.03.2022 00:19]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw&ab_channel=TheGuardian
https://cultureru.com/ukrainian-tycoon-kolomoiskys-change-of-heart-over-russia-in-quotes/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/13/world/europe/ukraine-ihor-kolomoisky-russia.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Weapon_Industries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPC_Fort
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/380483-congress-bans-arms-to-controversial-ukrainian-militia-linked-to-neo-nazis
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/04/how-zelensky-made-peace-with-neo-nazis/
(Yes, this last article by consortium news was written by two mad jews, but it does a solid job documenting the amount of power and influence Azov have within the Ukrainian state.)
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