People are slow to realize, the food has already run out in about 1/5th of the world today and its going to get real bad as summer goes on. The best humans amongst us, go about three meals hungry before they turn into vicious animals.
Heres a primer on the why of it all at a top level.
[ - ] localsal 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 19:34:44 ago (+1/-0)
I asked this question before, but did not receive an answer.
Ok, fertilizer prices are high - but what is the difference in yield between using fertilizer and not using fertilizer?
What is the actual mechanism that fertilizer assists with? is it being able to plant closer together? or does each plant produce more by itself?
If a farmer decides to not use fertilizer, what is the economic impact?
An example, totally made up - but for clarity:
Fertilized fields produce 5x yield over non-fertilized.
A farmer spends 100k to plant the field.
Normally, the harvest would bring in 500k. Without fertilizer, the harvest would be at a loss - oh, but wait, now the price is 10x what it was.
So in reality the farmer - even without fertilizer - is looking to make a bigger profit than before.
True, the total food supply would still decrease, resulting in famine/starvation, but the farmer is going to be doing fine without needing fertilizer (in this example).
fertilizer is like heroin. without it the soil will produce maybe 90 percent less. the fert price is one thing, the shortage is another consideration so without it, the soil has no nutrients to produce anything. its like planting into desert sand.
I'm gonna call bullshit on the sand and not growing part.
There are lots of natural fertilizers - yes, not to the scale that has produced the food (and all us parasites) that we are used to.
Plants have been planted and harvested for thousands of years with natural or no fertilizers.
Even 90% less would produce something - and that would allow farmers to sell at 20x to 30x the price, right? so how are the farmers going to lose money????
It's all made up bullshit to take farmland away from producing farmers and starve people
The coof and jab didn't kill nearly as many as (((they))) wanted and now the next phase/attempt is in full swing.
If you haven't taken the time to get your ass to local farms and farmers markets, and gotten to know where and who that local food comes from then you are fucking up.
amen brother. bought a half beef from the neighbor yesterday. and tomorrow's job is to build raised planter beds for my overgrown seed starts. havent started the burley tobacco seeds now that i think about it.
There are things that are technically food, that you don't really want to eat. Beyond the normal aversion to canibalism, most modern people are gross. All fatty and nasty. I'll find something else thanks
The fat is where the flavor is. Also, the role of preparation is key. When you see cannibals in movies, you see them dining on raw and uncooked human flesh. Of course you'd get sick from that! There's There's reason why we prepare our meals, rather than just ripping into them like animals do. Our systems had evoked differently, we require fire, smoke, or heat to make our meat edible to us. Even when we eat our meat raw, its still prepared so that it doesn't make us ill, sushi uses vinegar and salt to kill the germs which would otherwise hurt those of us who eat it.
I would not want to eat apex predators of any kind.
Look up what lion meat tastes like.
All of the toxins from everything build up in apex predators the most, since there is nothing but death that will stop their eating habits.
If cannibalism is going to be a thing - vegans would most likely be the safest route, with respect to toxins, but their lack of any muscle mass means there isn't much to eat anyway.
When a person is starving, it really doesn't matter that much though.
Humans evolve into two species, one which preys upon the other, the vegans may well be the precursors of that prey species, and we already have a set of more carnivore type diets taken up among the right.
We are divided, politically and nutritionally, as we tend to only breed with those like ourselves in these ways, the genetic isolation that is required for a divergence is already in place.
The only other component we need is multiple generations in separation of breeding, we will have the split of speciation much sooner than you might assume.
The left says that not enough generations have passed in genetic isolation for races to be real, but they rely on an outdated model of evolutionary science when they say that, as more recent findings reveal that the number of generations in isolation are actually a lot less than what someone like Charles Darwin had assumed.
This was mostly due to lacking knowledge of mechanism, had he net Gregor Mendel in his lifetime, he'd have a different time frame for speciation, and it would still have been too large, because of new discoveries in evolutionary science that further cuts down the time neededto make a split of a family tree into separate species.
the left uses all the same arguments when denying race as creationists use when denying evolution. They are the exact same things, just revamped for a new reality being denied.
In this case, it's the leftist pretending that evolution ends at Darwin and Mendel, ignoring the developments since then that refute their claims.
They have a fetish for killing people nonviolently or indirectly.
The fetish lies in how they think they've twisted our morals to believe in love, peace, law, and order to a delusional irrational degree.
They think we believe that unless we are struck first, or blatantly under attack, we'd never strike out at them, so if they use political power to ensure we starve, we'd never strike out at them for abusing their positions, like we did during the French or American revolutions, during the confederate Civil War, or under the German revolution of the NSDAP.
They might be right, when looking at how optics cucked the current "resistance" is, so many only care for looking like good people, not actually willing to sacrifice their consciences to fight for survival.
Maybe a few weeks without a good meal might change that.
[ + ] veggy
[ - ] veggy [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 14:56:09 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/uk-sleepwalking-food-crisis-fresh-produce-set-vanish-supermarkets
https://allnewspipeline.com/Preparing_For_Grocery_Store_Shelves_NEVER_To_Be_Replenished.php
[ + ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic
[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:57:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 22:11:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 19:34:44 ago (+1/-0)
Ok, fertilizer prices are high - but what is the difference in yield between using fertilizer and not using fertilizer?
What is the actual mechanism that fertilizer assists with? is it being able to plant closer together? or does each plant produce more by itself?
If a farmer decides to not use fertilizer, what is the economic impact?
An example, totally made up - but for clarity:
Fertilized fields produce 5x yield over non-fertilized.
A farmer spends 100k to plant the field.
Normally, the harvest would bring in 500k. Without fertilizer, the harvest would be at a loss - oh, but wait, now the price is 10x what it was.
So in reality the farmer - even without fertilizer - is looking to make a bigger profit than before.
True, the total food supply would still decrease, resulting in famine/starvation, but the farmer is going to be doing fine without needing fertilizer (in this example).
[ + ] Oven_Stuffer_3000
[ - ] Oven_Stuffer_3000 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 21:30:33 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 22:21:44 ago (+0/-0)
There are lots of natural fertilizers - yes, not to the scale that has produced the food (and all us parasites) that we are used to.
Plants have been planted and harvested for thousands of years with natural or no fertilizers.
Even 90% less would produce something - and that would allow farmers to sell at 20x to 30x the price, right? so how are the farmers going to lose money????
It's all made up bullshit to take farmland away from producing farmers and starve people
The coof and jab didn't kill nearly as many as (((they))) wanted and now the next phase/attempt is in full swing.
[ + ] Greatmuta
[ - ] Greatmuta 2 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 17:45:25 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 3 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:32:15 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Oven_Stuffer_3000
[ - ] Oven_Stuffer_3000 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 21:25:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 3 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 16:43:03 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] TheViciousMrPim
[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 2 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 17:16:11 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 18:21:15 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 19:27:43 ago (+0/-0)
Look up what lion meat tastes like.
All of the toxins from everything build up in apex predators the most, since there is nothing but death that will stop their eating habits.
If cannibalism is going to be a thing - vegans would most likely be the safest route, with respect to toxins, but their lack of any muscle mass means there isn't much to eat anyway.
When a person is starving, it really doesn't matter that much though.
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 19:43:04 ago (+1/-0)
Humans evolve into two species, one which preys upon the other, the vegans may well be the precursors of that prey species, and we already have a set of more carnivore type diets taken up among the right.
We are divided, politically and nutritionally, as we tend to only breed with those like ourselves in these ways, the genetic isolation that is required for a divergence is already in place.
The only other component we need is multiple generations in separation of breeding, we will have the split of speciation much sooner than you might assume.
The left says that not enough generations have passed in genetic isolation for races to be real, but they rely on an outdated model of evolutionary science when they say that, as more recent findings reveal that the number of generations in isolation are actually a lot less than what someone like Charles Darwin had assumed.
This was mostly due to lacking knowledge of mechanism, had he net Gregor Mendel in his lifetime, he'd have a different time frame for speciation, and it would still have been too large, because of new discoveries in evolutionary science that further cuts down the time neededto make a split of a family tree into separate species.
the left uses all the same arguments when denying race as creationists use when denying evolution. They are the exact same things, just revamped for a new reality being denied.
In this case, it's the leftist pretending that evolution ends at Darwin and Mendel, ignoring the developments since then that refute their claims.
[ + ] Oven_Stuffer_3000
[ - ] Oven_Stuffer_3000 2 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 21:32:40 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 6 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 14:59:20 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] veggy
[ - ] veggy [op] 3 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:03:23 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 2 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 19:09:09 ago (+2/-0)
The fetish lies in how they think they've twisted our morals to believe in love, peace, law, and order to a delusional irrational degree.
They think we believe that unless we are struck first, or blatantly under attack, we'd never strike out at them, so if they use political power to ensure we starve, we'd never strike out at them for abusing their positions, like we did during the French or American revolutions, during the confederate Civil War, or under the German revolution of the NSDAP.
They might be right, when looking at how optics cucked the current "resistance" is, so many only care for looking like good people, not actually willing to sacrifice their consciences to fight for survival.
Maybe a few weeks without a good meal might change that.
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:00:40 ago (+1/-0)
with extra peaches.
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:02:28 ago (+1/-0)
I got a can of soup for you, too!
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:05:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:10:03 ago (+0/-0)
But nobody will pay for this kind.
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 1 point 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:11:37 ago (+1/-0)
clearly you're not a clean living agricultural renaissance man. Like myself.
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 15:13:27 ago (+0/-0)
For reals, chickens shit SO MUCH! And it's free, and it's even better than cattle manure, in my ever so very humble opinion!
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 22:15:10 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 3 yearsApr 1, 2022 22:16:57 ago (+0/-0)
Eeu got a loisence for that beard?!