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Christians were the ultimate censors, expunging texts they didn't like. They also burned a philosopher's work of a new system similar to what Hitler wanted 500 yrs ere he rose

submitted by BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod to History 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:27:46 ago (+12/-10)     (History)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1515898877919989762

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistos_Plethon

old mate wanted to combine all white historical religions into one based on logic/rationality (oh no) all the way back in the 1450s, undoubtedly cause he saw how much a handicap christianity was whilst islam enabled muslims to beat us despite being so inferior. so the christians burned it and let the muslims take over. only thanks to logic/rationality elsewhere with the renaissance do whites manage a comeback before total capitulation, but we still to this day lack a sort of religious ritual system to combine it with to inculcate the plebs who have no ability to comprehend logic and reason. now we're back to the verge of defeat and desperate for a comeback again.

"After his death, Plethon's Nómōn syngraphḗ (Νόμων συγγραφή) or Nómoi (Νόμοι, "Book of Laws") was discovered. It came into the possession of Princess Theodora, wife of Demetrios Palaiologos, despot of Morea. Theodora sent the manuscript to Scholarius, now Gennadius II, Patriarch of Constantinople, asking for his advice on what to do with it; he returned it, advising her to destroy it. Morea was under invasion from Sultan Mehmet II, and Theodora escaped with Demetrios to Constantinople where she gave the manuscript back to Gennadius, reluctant to destroy the only copy of such a distinguished scholar's work herself. Gennadius burnt it in 1460; however, in a letter to the Exarch Joseph (which still survives) he details the book, providing chapter headings and brief summaries of the contents.[17] It seemed to represent a merging of Stoic philosophy and Zoroastrian mysticism, and discussed astrology, daemons and the migration of the soul. He recommended religious rites and hymns to petition the classical gods, such as Zeus, whom he saw as universal principles and planetary powers. Man, as relative of the gods, should strive towards good. Plethon believed the universe has no beginning or end in time, and being created perfect, nothing may be added to it. He rejected the concept of a brief reign of evil followed by perpetual happiness, and held that the human soul is reincarnated, directed by the gods into successive bodies to fulfill divine order. This same divine order, he believed, governed the organisation of bees, the foresight of ants and the dexterity of spiders, as well as the growth of plants, magnetic attraction, and the amalgamation of mercury and gold.[12]

Plethon drew up plans in his Nómoi to radically change the structure and philosophy of the Byzantine Empire in line with his interpretation of Platonism. The new state religion was to be founded on a hierarchical pantheon of pagan gods, based largely upon the ideas of humanism prevalent at the time, incorporating themes such as rationalism and logic. As an ad-hoc measure he also supported the reconciliation of the two churches in order to secure Western Europe's support against the Ottomans.[22] He also proposed more practical, immediate measures, such as rebuilding the Hexamilion, the ancient defensive wall across the Isthmus of Corinth, which had been breached by the Ottomans in 1423.

The political and social elements of his theories covered the creation of communities, government (he promoted benevolent monarchy as the most stable form), land ownership (land should be shared, rather than individually owned), social organisation, families, and divisions of sex and class. He believed that labourers should keep a third of their produce, and that soldiers should be professional. He held that love should be private not because it is shameful, but because it is sacred."


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[ - ] Reawakened 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 07:28:51 ago (+3/-3)

Hot after them Christians, aren't ya there Thor? LOL

It's a shame you're too stupid to understand what you're doing is tearing down White people for exactly zero good purpose. Those of us that are Christians are not going to change our mind, but you will make us keep you out of our towns when things start going south. There are a lot more of us than there are of you. I'd be willing to tolerate you if you would just shut the fuck up about trying to divide White people.

If you can't do that, you're the same as a jew.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 3 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:34:00 ago (+3/-0)

Those of us that are Christians are not going to change our mind

Why not? I did.

I'd be willing to tolerate you if you would just shut the fuck up about trying to divide White people.

If you don't want your toys to be broken don't bring them to school. You could leave your religion at home and have it be a purely private matter, but if you bring it up here expect criticism.

[ - ] Reawakened 1 point 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 14:26:32 ago (+1/-0)

Bullshit. They attack my faith whether I say anything about it or not. I didn't start this topic, did I Einstein? You should try to refrain from saying stupid shit in public. It makes you look stupid.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 15:04:39 ago (+0/-0)

This is voat. Nothing is above criticism. I remember seeing christposting here long before the countermemes took off.

[ - ] Reawakened 1 point 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 15:31:29 ago (+1/-0)

The issue is not criticism. The issue is bald faced attacks aimed at dividing White people. Wanna criticize Christianity, fine, have at it. Want to attack White people for believing in it. That's a different topic altogether. White people can't afford to fight amongst themselves over issues of faith. That's jew work through and through.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:44:03 ago (+0/-0)

Wanna criticize Christianity, fine, have at it. Want to attack White people for believing in it. That's a different topic altogether.

How do you distinguish one from the other.

White people can't afford to fight amongst themselves over issues of faith. That's jew work through and through.

I think we need to rethink every part of our culture that allowed things to get this bad. Religion necessarily has to be one of the things addressed. I assume at the very least you'd agree christianity needs to be drastically reformed? Virtually every denomination is working for the enemy.

[ - ] Reawakened 0 points 3 yearsApr 19, 2022 00:11:54 ago (+0/-0)

I assume at the very least you'd agree christianity needs to be drastically reformed?

Absolutely, I think this. The rot is deep in the Church. It's been perverted in as many ways as you can think of. Prosperity preaching, embracing perversion and fetacide, and more importantly forgetting that jews are of the devil and His blood is on them and their children.

That doesn't mean the base premise of sin, and redemption are wrong.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsApr 19, 2022 07:08:52 ago (+0/-0)

Fair enough, that's a good start.

How about the bible? As I see it there's no reason christians couldn't reconvene the council of nicea and recodify the bible removing any pro-jewish and anti-nationalist sentiment. People sometimes forget that it's a manmade document.

[ - ] Reawakened 0 points 3 yearsApr 19, 2022 12:49:01 ago (+0/-0)

I believe if God wants us to revisit the bible, we will. To now, he hasn't.

I don't personally think it's necessary. All I think needs to happen is for some honest preachers to start preaching the Word, and for people to start listening and following it. Race mixing isn't biblical, nations are peoples, not political systems built around geography, we're not to tolerate evil, etc.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsApr 19, 2022 14:24:19 ago (+0/-0)

To put that the other way, if you revisit the bible then by definition he wanted you to. The choice is still in your hands.

I don't personally think it's necessary. All I think needs to happen is for some honest preachers to start preaching the Word, and for people to start listening and following it. Race mixing isn't biblical, nations are peoples, not political systems built around geography, we're not to tolerate evil, etc.

Eh, the old testament at the very least is very much about jewish supremacy.

[ - ] chrimony 2 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:14:04 ago (+3/-1)

People push Christianity on this site, which is a jewish Trojan horse for goys. Then it should be fine to push the opposite. Letting go of your jew crutch isn't tearing white people down.

[ - ] IfuckedYerMum 2 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 12:53:04 ago (+2/-0)

but you will make us keep you out of our towns when things start going south.

No, that's your insistence on putting faith before blood and soil that makes you do that.

[ - ] Reawakened 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 14:20:55 ago (+0/-0)

No, that's your insistence on not letting people have their own beliefs without playing vociferous critic. You shut the fuck up, you'll be welcome to help us rebuild civilization. Believe what you want and accept that others may have other beliefs. We can both believe in blood and soil without having to share matters of spiritual faith. You think I'm a jew because I choose to believe in the only religion that out right rejects them. I think you're a jew because you want to play divide the White people. So be it.

[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:01:44 ago (+3/-3)*

I wouldn't get too worked up. This site is filled with jewish subversives and glowies larping as neo nazis and pagans. OP account is only 4 weeks old too. Nationalsocialism user is most likely a glowie. Who else would hate Christ that much? Only a jew or other slave of the devil.

Even If these anti-Christs were not subversives and were all about saving whites like they say they are, they would be more diplomatic instead of insulting a large number of users on here, but that's not their agenda. Their agenda is to fracture the user base and push people away from this site and other sites like this that don't censor. It's not that difficult to see.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:58:51 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] KeepPoal4fags 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:01:56 ago (+0/-0)

Not to mention that Christianity IS the white civilization. Without the church >95% of the histories, sciences, arts and literature that you love about Europeans wouldn't even exist. This whole censorship accusation is fkn retarded.

[ - ] NationalSocialism -1 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:08:40 ago (+0/-1)

Nationalsocialism user is most likely a glowie.

LOL. What a baseless accusation.

Who else would hate Christ that much? Only a jew or other slave of the devil

Someone who isn’t a NPC and realizes Christianity is a jewish deception. The whole religion is littered with judiasm and you are being ignorant for not acknowledging it.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:20:41 ago (+1/-1)

you're losing on every front and you know it. i'm trying to save white people, you're the one enslaved to jewish theology trying to walk them straight into a rapture. the christians are holding the right-wing whites back.. once that noose is removed then we can start to take action, but until then we're fucked and stuck with passivity.

[ - ] Reawakened 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 14:32:36 ago (+0/-0)

That's bullshit too. "Right wing Whites" aren't being held back by anything greater than personal fear. Nobody wants to play the martyr. Nobody is dedicated enough to the cause to take any steps. There's no leader and there's really no guiding principles. Nobody is uncomfortable enough. I'm embarrassed for you that you think a bunch of NPC Christians are holding you back from your divine duty. That's just laughable.

Fear is holding you back, just like it's holding everybody else back.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 19, 2022 04:09:15 ago (+0/-0)

showing again how clueless you are. there's many small wignat groups with great potential leaders. the problem is they get no public support, only hate, and most of it is from right wing christians, shooting us all in the foot. hitler's group would've stayed at only 9 people if a) he didn't have a wealthy backer but most importantly b) if everyone hated on him from the outset. instead the only hate was from the left.. the right listened to him and agreed. now that same right joins the left in the attack. christians back then weren't such racial traitors, but now they are and they're a great bloc, cult, which can't be budged. they've been turned into our worst enemy and our biggest obstacle.

[ - ] Reawakened 0 points 3 yearsApr 19, 2022 12:40:56 ago (+0/-0)

I think that's a cop out. How are Christians standing in their way? The overwhelming majority of Christians are NPCs, just like the overwhelming majority of any other group. All you have to do is go to traditionally conservative sites like Citizen Free Press and The Gateway Pundit and read the comments and you can see the NPCs picking up our talking points. You are simply engaging in mental masturbation if you think Christians are affecting anything. We can't even get a justice on the supreme court.

You'll catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 3 yearsApr 19, 2022 20:32:02 ago (+0/-0)

Religion is the opiate of the masses

Just because an asshole said it doesn't make it untrue ya sheeple

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:42:35 ago (+0/-0)

Thanks. I hadn't been aware of him.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] -1 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:57:00 ago (+0/-1)

I wasn't aware of him.*

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:06:22 ago (+0/-0)

Why the correction? Both statements are equivalent and correct.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] -1 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:09:41 ago (+0/-1)

always better to use less words. hadn't been is two. wasn't is one. therefore wasn't is the better option.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:04:10 ago (+0/-0)

Huh?

Hasn't = has not

Wasn't = was not

Not my downvote btw.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:17:12 ago (+0/-0)

you're forgetting the been, jack

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:42:06 ago (+0/-0)

Ah! I see what you're saying.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 3 yearsApr 19, 2022 20:29:28 ago (+0/-0)

Any book thats been edited and censored 1000s upon 1000s of times is clearly 100% legit

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 20, 2022 04:17:55 ago (+0/-0)

like the bible?

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 3 yearsApr 20, 2022 19:39:08 ago (+0/-0)

Youre sharp as a bowling ball

[ - ] NationalSocialism 2 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:47:34 ago (+5/-3)

Christians got rid of our pre-Christian beliefs, deeming them sacrilegious and replaced them with a form of judaism.

https://files.catbox.moe/1l8jz8.jpeg

[ - ] Master_Foo 4 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 03:44:42 ago (+4/-0)

Whatever you do, don't let @Love240 see this picture. It will probably mentally break him.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 2 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:52:44 ago (+3/-1)

amazing how such a simple statement of fact now acknowledged by all historians is attacked and denied by them. how can you possibly deny that?

[ - ] NationalSocialism 1 point 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:57:08 ago (+2/-1)

sunk-cost fallacy

[ - ] VigourousJackson 0 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 03:15:46 ago (+1/-1)

yes, thanks to the romans inventing xtianity to try to rein in judaism... shot themselves in the foot until constantine got control of it again, then the jews reinvented themselves through islam...

[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:38:30 ago (+2/-0)

The general pattern of the spread of christianity was for them to target low status people (beggars, lepers, women etc.) and promise them status and power in exchange for their support. Once they had built a faction big enough they'd use that support to negotiate deals with the elites, favourable status in exchange for the support of the underclass.

Meanwhile the productive classes get squeezed in the middle for all they're worth until they get gaslit into identifying with the invaders.

I don't think constantine was a sincere christian, I think he was this close to losing a civil war (and his head) so he picked a popular faction to promise power and status to.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 2 points 3 yearsApr 18, 2022 06:01:33 ago (+2/-0)

Scholarius

I feel like I'm being fucked w