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To vote or not?

submitted by 1Icemonkey to AskUpgoat 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:03:43 ago (+10/-2)     (AskUpgoat)

Received my voter information guide and promptly tossed it. Didn’t even open it up. Now my ballot has come and I really just can’t think of a good reason to vote. I usually drop it off in person when I do, so it’s not about it not getting there.

I was told I should vote at the local level and such, but it’s all so miserable.


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[ - ] account deleted by user 8 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:08:22 ago (+10/-2)

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[ - ] rage 9 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:51:52 ago (+10/-1)

If voting mattered, we wouldn't be allowed to do it.

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 11:23:02 ago (+4/-2)

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[ - ] rage 5 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 11:59:54 ago (+5/-0)

It sounds like you haven't accepted that we live in a captive system of population control, and your lifes contribution is stolen labor to continue to enrich the lives of the kleptocratic ruling class.

But hey, at least you can vote local, amirite?

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 12:04:49 ago (+2/-2)

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[ - ] rage 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 13:58:17 ago (+1/-1)

Funny. You're so simple-minded. You presume only one solution, because your smooth brain rejects reality and gets defeated and then immediately projects that defeat on others.

It's so sad, really.

[ - ] TwiceBanned -1 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 12:14:10 ago (+2/-3)

"If you arnt voting, you must just be sitting at home doing nothing"

Why havent you just killed yourself at this point if you are that stupid?

[ - ] account deleted by user -1 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 12:19:52 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] TwiceBanned -1 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 12:31:29 ago (+0/-1)

No one gets back to you because they dont want retarded fags.

Seriously, your mindset is, if you arnt voting, you must be sitting at home doing nothing.

You do realize this means everyone now knows that you are the type of retarded faggot thats responsible for all of this nonsense. That you just go vote, clasp your hands together in a job well done, and promptly take your worthless ass home to sit and do nothing til you vote again.

Congratulations on outing yourself as an ineffectual do nothing "trust the plan!" Faggot.

If you need someone to lay out their big plan, you arnt invited to participate. Are you actually that fucking stupid? Or are you a glowy trying to get me to admit to and document things that could be used against me in the rigged courts?

You people are the fucking worst. You do nothing, but vote, while claiming (projecting) that everyone else is just doing nothing! And unless we post incriminating evidence we must all just be as useless as you are!

Thats not how it works at all.

So, you are either a grade-a do nothing fucking retarded faggot, or a glowy trying to get people to incriminate themselves. So again, why havent you just killed yourself at this point?

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 12:44:52 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 13:04:45 ago (+0/-0)

It is exactly what you posted you mentally deranged fuckwit.

Reeeee you didnt post your grand manifesto and plan so you arnt doing anything reeee.

Reeeee vote or else you arnt doing anything!


Reeeeee no one will accept into their movements because im a stupid fag!

You are the ineffectual do nothing faggot that said its either vote or you are sitting at home doing nothing.

You are the stupid fag that "contacted groups" and never got invited.

I do know what you are doing, because you posted about it. You are voting, and you assume if people arnt voting, they are sitting at home doing nothing, like you.

And you are a fucking nigger also... "clap back".... jesus christ, a do nothing shitskin faggot retard that thinks voting is the path forward and the only thing to be done.

Youve outed yourself, i don't have to make it any clearer for anyone else thats reading this.

You've stated, vote, or you are sitting at home doing nothing. You've stated, you try to contact "groups" to get involved, and none of them want you around. By your own admission you sit around doing fucking nothing except voting and getting rejected by everyone in the real world.

And you think IM the one thats "doing nothing" because i wont disclose anything to you. I wont tell you shit, just like i wont invite you to the group activities, because you make it obvious you are one or both of two things, a do nothing retard, or a glowy trying to get incriminating evidence and infiltrate groups.

You've been rejected.

[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 12:37:37 ago (+1/-1)

There can't possibly be different people here with all kinds of different opinions, can there? Fuckin retard.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 12:46:22 ago (+2/-1)

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[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 5 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:35:57 ago (+5/-0)

There's a guy here who's website is all 90's, 1776, constitution, 2nd shall not be infringed, and so on. I specifically go for that guy. He doesn't reflect many of my values but he's the closest thing I'll ever see on the ballot.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:53:24 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] Paradoxical003 5 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:23:13 ago (+6/-1)

Vote anyway, just don't rely only upon your vote to change anything.

Also, vote honestly, not strategically, and encourage others around you to do the same.

If people vote their honest opinions and not based on how they think everyone rose will vote, we can stop electing traitorous scumbags into office on the delusion that it's the only option that's viable.

[ - ] giantprick 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 14:35:23 ago (+0/-0)

Have you seen how our elections play out?

[ - ] o0shad0o 2 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 13:40:46 ago (+2/-0)

At this point, the only reason you should vote is for the lulz. I plan on voting for Trump in '24 if only to make the crying lefties have to fake even more votes to try and keep him out. Despite his being a pawn of the uniparty and ultimately not preventing the planned collapse of the US.

[ - ] x0x7 1 point 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 11:40:27 ago (+1/-0)*

Am an ancap and even I support voting. It doesn't give legitimacy to the system. Any honest dialog can come to that conclusion. And if we are dealing with a society with dishonest dialog and twisted logic then it can still legitimize itself even if you don't vote.

If you are kidnapped by some ruthless and perverse captor, and he gives you options of what torture you will accept, attempting to avoid the worse of two options does not legitimize his actions and you would be a fool to not try to manipulate/direct your captor to be less abusive. When you are in such a situation principles go out the window. Do what you have to to survive.

Our country is run by psychopaths that do insane things like kick you our of your job over a cold. Attempting to demonstrate to them that we have principles isn't going to do anything. They don't care. Use whatever tools you have, even if mostly ineffectual, to do what you can.

This is also why I'm against voting Libertarian. It is throwing a way a vote. Make parties attempt to be more libertarian than the other to get your vote. Effect their behavior. The situation is way way to serious to not act within reality. You have to play the game given to you. Right now that is the greatest sway is within primaries.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 11:32:52 ago (+1/-0)

I dont think anything more local than state has had an impact on my life since i was in school. I don't live in a city, and when i visit local small towns, i operate the same as i do everywhere else. There are NO local laws that have more power over me than the state and federal laws. No rules that i must abide by that are determined by a mayor or a city council.

And very very very few things have changed on the state level in my lifetime, however some have, like constitutional carry being passed.

But overall, its become very obvious that voting is only there to placate the masses and make people think they have to vote for change and wait around for due process that never comes. Voting is the excuse they use to prosecute violent change.

Voting... makes me think of that clip about democracy "democracy is a government by the people, for the people, but, the people are retarded".

Weve been voting for centuries now. Hasnt helped. We did the ballot box. Weve been speaking out for centuries now, trying to argue against the decay. Hasnt helped. We did the soap box. It's long long LONG past time we use the ammo box again. Our grandfathers failed us when they didn't do it. Our fathers failed us when they didn't do it. Are we going to fail the children of the future, which wont be ours, if we do nothing?

[ - ] RedBarchetta 1 point 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:41:41 ago (+1/-0)

Vote, hand it in late. If cut off is 7pm, drop it off at 5:30

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:48:25 ago (+0/-0)

I like this idea. Then again, who says we can't just "stop counting ballots" because "its sooooooooo late and we're tired!11!"

[ - ] observation1 1 point 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 13:29:55 ago (+1/-0)

Vote every day with your wallet, your thoughts, what you say, what you do.

Ballot voting is probably the least powerful type of voting but local voting matters too.

[ - ] giantprick 1 point 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 14:37:54 ago (+1/-0)

Why?

Let's just assume no one's tapering with any votes. Now let's say you're around 1-2 std deviations up on the IQ curve.

Now let's say anyone who's not at that same IQ range or better is basically incapable of seeing through the deceit. Many people at this range are as well.

So now out of 10 votes what does your 1 vote do against the roughly 6-8 votes which are made by mindless sheep who are simply following a chant or slogan or commercial jingle as the true basis for their vote?

[ - ] 1Icemonkey [op] 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 15:20:03 ago (+0/-0)

That’s what I’m sayin mang!

[ - ] Boardallday3 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 12:13:02 ago (+0/-0)

Vote just go out and do it you're lazy not to. Just the chance that it will matter is worth the time and effort. It's usually very close by anyway. My polling place is a block away.

[ - ] 1Icemonkey [op] 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 15:21:57 ago (+0/-0)

My polling place is forty miles away and I still hand deliver my ballot every time. I’m not lazy you meat puppet. Apparently you didn’t read my post. Maybe you are lazy.

[ - ] texasblood 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 11:44:26 ago (+0/-0)

Nope,gonna let it burn

[ - ] Stonkmar 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 11:05:24 ago (+0/-0)

Nobody cares who you voted for.

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 10:46:42 ago (+0/-0)

California sent me shit to vote at home. Act is pointless, but will probably fill it out and turn it in. May wait to see if I can put my ballot into the tabulation machine myself, instead of sitting in a pile for a couple weeks.

Who knows...you could find a mail tote full of ballots like somebody in Hollywood did over the weekend.

[ - ] taoV 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 15:24:42 ago (+0/-0)

Locally I'll vote. Federally? I'll make it a range day and invite along some people who "get it".

[ - ] FluffyBunnySlippers 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 16:20:59 ago (+0/-0)

Why not vote? It at least makes it harder for them to cheat. People are waking up to the fraud and control. I believe voting helps in this discovery.

[ - ] 1Icemonkey [op] 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 20:49:26 ago (+0/-0)

This is something to consider. Thank you.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 16:58:01 ago (+0/-0)

Takes me less than an hour to vote once a year. On the off chance that it helps, I do it. I don't expect anything out of it.

[ - ] gardella 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 17:16:26 ago (+0/-0)

Always vote in person for local items, always show up for jury duty, only avenue to take back schools and the law.

[ - ] 1Icemonkey [op] 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 20:48:47 ago (+0/-0)

I’ve never shown up for jury duty. I’ve always been self employed and/or sole provider who can not recover if taking 1-2-3 months off from work/business.
Fuck the jewish courts.

[ - ] gardella 0 points 3.1 yearsMay 12, 2022 21:29:53 ago (+0/-0)

I have been on three juries, all lasted less than one day, got one guy released because of bad law, sent two to jail because they deserved it.

[ - ] ThisGuy -1 points 3.1 yearsMay 13, 2022 02:25:02 ago (+0/-1)

If you don't vote you really have no right to bitch and moan about anything. You are allowing yourself to be the 'acted upon' rather than acting upon.