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What is the best vehicle to convert to run on alcohol?

submitted by SocksOnCats to AskUpgoat 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 13:08:13 ago (+17/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

The price of gasoline is out of control, and even if a conservative administration sets up shop in 2024, I don't see things going back to any semblance of normal. Propane is also gone pretty nuts, and thus isn't a viable (cost-efficient) gasoline alternative. And while diesel should be okay, I think we can write that one off as well.

Electric vehicle are a dumb idea for all kinds of reasons. We don't need to go in to that. Maybe having an electric bicycle around would be good, but certainly not a full sized vehicle.

Some people have proposed using ammonium as a fuel, and while it shows promise, I think the tech to make it practical and not super dangerous is still a little ways off - certainly for mass-production.

Which leads me to ethanol. Right now a gallon of ethanol is about $2.16 a gallon (or so my internet sleuthing tells me). And while alcohol as a vehicle fuel doesn't deliver near the same power as gasoline, I think this current price difference would make up for it. (Here in kommiefornia we're paying above $7 a gallon for gas). Am I wrong here? Let me know.

Ethanol isn't hard to find, and I don't think the world markets can manipulate the cost of this too easily without fouling up a whole lot of other things unrelated to transportation, so I'm guessing (again, maybe wrong) the price should stay pretty low.

And, ethanol can be produced at home. Sure, you need a pretty big amount of plant matter to make it, but you still can. By the gods, this is America, and we can grow corn.

So if I'm correct so far, that leads to the primary question I asked: What is the BEST vehicle to buy and convert to alcohol? There are, of course, some qualifications to this:

1) The vehicle needs to have a relatively simple engine, what an average person can do the conversion on as well as maintain.

2) The vehicle has to have been produced in numbers such that spare parts are pretty easy to get.


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[ - ] Robhere 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 21, 2022 18:26:07 ago (+0/-0)

I have always been partial to the Vapor Carburetor and heard stories of a gallon of gas going 300+ miles on a Edsel which would be equivalent to a hummer today weight wise.
https://youtu.be/s1mNxKGoRLk

[ - ] Boardallday3 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 8, 2022 17:27:22 ago (+0/-0)

I think an M1 Abrams tank can run on ethanol and several other fuels.

[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 14:38:21 ago (+3/-0)

You're better off converting a deisle to run on veggie oil.

[ - ] allahead 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 14:30:49 ago (+3/-0)

Hemp oil would probably be a better source than corn. It takes more than a gallon of diesel to make an equivalent gallon of ethanol with corn, such a retarded policy. It's not even close either, net energy loss is around 40%.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 13:37:34 ago (+4/-1)

VW Beetle. Not kidding.

[ - ] SocksOnCats [op] 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 13:45:53 ago (+1/-0)

Ya those engines are pretty un-killable.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 14:11:23 ago (+0/-0)

and a super cool feature about them is that the chassis is connected to the frame by like 6 screws, so you can build your own and put it oin... want a camper beetle? just loosen six screws and convert XD

you can literally rebuild any part using a simple blacksmith shop and a lathe.

[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 4 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 16:32:06 ago (+4/-0)

wait, so you are saying hitler was right?

[ - ] xmasskull 4 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 16:44:51 ago (+4/-0)

Yes.on many,many,subjects.

[ - ] ThisGuy 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 18:53:24 ago (+1/-1)

Until a preschooler on his trike runs into you. Then you're fucked.

[ - ] bosunmoon 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:13:08 ago (+3/-0)

A chassis and a frame are the same thing. A beetle has a tunnel chassis and it's connected to the body with 12, 14mm bolts.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:01:54 ago (+0/-0)

Can you still find them?

[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:12:27 ago (+0/-0)

Yes.
They were produced in Mexico up till 2003.

[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:13:39 ago (+0/-0)

I'll sell you one.

[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:11:40 ago (+0/-0)

No way, absolutely wrong. They would over heat first thing.

[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 7, 2022 16:51:09 ago (+0/-0)

U dumb fuk!! I live in S.E.Texas,my '74 Beetle never overheated.

[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 7, 2022 20:31:04 ago (+0/-0)

74 is a shit year for bugs, and you never ran it on ethinol. I assume you just bought it and didn't build your own engine. You are a big gay retard.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 21, 2022 10:00:28 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 21, 2022 17:40:54 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah but it provides no lubrication. Unburnt fuel is actually a huge part of lubricating and cooling an engine.

[ - ] con77 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 15:57:14 ago (+2/-0)

con77

[ - ] doginventer -1 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 19:37:08 ago (+0/-1)

Good torque & range, but might struggle to get through the emissions test :)

[ - ] Unreasonable 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 14:26:58 ago (+2/-0)

Bio diesel is probably an easier conversion.

[ - ] GOATMAN 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 13:39:40 ago (+2/-0)

Have you considered the diesel to cooking oil conversion route or a bio diesel still?

[ - ] SocksOnCats [op] 4 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 13:47:06 ago (+4/-0)

Do you mean cooking oil to diesel? Or am I missing something?

[ - ] MaryXmas 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 15:27:29 ago (+3/-0)

This is a thing. Just straight up use cooking oil. You can smell like a McDonald's as you hollar at the ladies.
It is harder to use in cold climates though.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 22:48:42 ago (+1/-0)

Yo! Baaybee aye gawt fries upineer If you brangs deyt shake!

[ - ] GOATMAN 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 15:46:30 ago (+2/-0)

Running a diesel engine on waste cooking oil.

https://www.treehugger.com/waste-vegetable-oil-wvo-part-1-85146

[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 13:18:27 ago (+2/-0)

That is alcohol abuse!!

[ - ] observation1 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 19:12:34 ago (+1/-0)

lots of scams out there in brazil but maybe check out a place such as kombiforyou com and ask them if they have any cars that run on 100% ethanol. In brazile its common

[ - ] FUBAR 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 13:19:47 ago (+1/-0)

Doesn't brazil have a lot ethanol fueled vehicles?

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 7, 2022 03:44:03 ago (+0/-0)

youd be better off buying an old truck and gasifying it.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 22:46:44 ago (+0/-0)

But Obiden said Americans are living their best lives now that they cant blame orange man bad for the problems they created. So everything that's bad going forward is because Obiden is just that good.

[ - ] AOUsNameIsDavid 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 22:11:42 ago (+0/-0)

I'm going to skip your wall of text and suggest you go with the traditional flintstone design if you plan to be powering your vehicle by running while you are intoxicated.

[ - ] Version6 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 18:58:01 ago (+0/-0)

A moped

[ - ] ThisGuy 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 18:52:13 ago (+0/-0)

Your mom.

[ - ] SocksOnCats [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 7, 2022 00:05:40 ago (+0/-0)

No YOUR mom.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 7, 2022 03:46:23 ago (+0/-0)

both your moms ok?

[ - ] gardella 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:28:15 ago (+0/-0)

Duce and a half will run it without converting, Willys jeeps take very little to run as well, most pre 1972 should be a trifle. Castro couldn't get gasoline, and they used the abundant sugar to make ethanol and run the trucks in Cuba

[ - ] SocksOnCats [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 7, 2022 00:06:42 ago (+0/-0)

I knew a guy who bought a deuce and a half truck. He converted it to a mobile apartment. Maybe doing the same would be good.

[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:17:46 ago (+0/-0)

Ethinol doesn't have anywhere near the BTU's per gallon of fossil fuels. You're on a quixotic adventure.
If you wan't a good fuel source for a car look to producer gas but retain the ability to run gas and maybe add the ability to run propane.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:13:18 ago (+0/-0)

I assume you are talking about cars that run on E85 (85% ethanol) and you are thinking about converting an older car? There are alot of models that have a flexfuel version which will take E85, maybe higher. You could buy a used flexfuel vehicle.

I don't think the world markets can manipulate the cost of this too easily without fouling up a whole lot of other things unrelated to transportation

I assume that once we have converted entirely to residential solar and wind because the jews have 100% control of fossil fuel combustion, jews will start taxing sunshine. I am not kidding.

I haven’t research biodiesel yet. Ethanol comes from two sources:
-corn and other sugary crops - expensive to grow but cheap to convert to ethanol because the sugar is highly available
-switchgrass and other organic materials high in cellulose and lignans— cheap to grow but harder to process. Apparently you need to break down all the cellulose and lignans with special enzymes that only one company in europe makes? So right there you have an opportunity for jews to fuck people. But maybe the tech for this process will improve and be more diy friendly. This seems like the biggest obstacle for switchgrass.

Maybe we al, need to buy big honking wind turbines and plug in cars. I dunno.

Jews.

[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:10:46 ago (+0/-0)

The human body.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:01:36 ago (+0/-0)

You want to make a bio reactor. Presmokes wood to create a burnable gas called wood gas that a gas engine can run on.

The US government put out books on how to make them during WW2.

[ - ] Steelerfish 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 19:16:11 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 16:59:38 ago (+0/-0)

An Aptera.
Self charges from solar for 30 miles a day.

Something like $30,000

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 15:44:06 ago (+0/-0)

There is a YouTube video about a truck running on wood gas. Wood gasifier stove is in the bed of the truck, but I think it needs to be a carburetor...

[ - ] HeyJames -1 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 22:41:42 ago (+0/-1)

Just get a flex fuel vehicle that can run off e85. 15% gasoline 85% ethanol. No work required

[ - ] goat777 -2 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 14:33:08 ago (+0/-2)

Stop interacting with this post, it's a seed.

[ - ] SocksOnCats [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 14:40:11 ago (+0/-0)

Dude you said the same thing in Poal. I'm just a guy asking questions. I represent nobody.

[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 17:27:35 ago (+0/-0)

I don't know what a seed is, but this guy is dumb and needs help getting his concept straight.