They're always doing this with Fed informants. The informant says "hey I'm gonna go kill that nigger over there" And the regular guys are like "ok..." And then they arrest the regular guys
Sometimes they are also used to punish pre-crime. We supposed you were going to do X. It really lowers the standard of evidence because if a real crime were committed you would have to go over all the evidence of the actual crime.
The way they make some sense is when a crime actually does occur, the parties that knowingly helped facilitate it and plan it could be charged under conspiracy.
But the founding fathers intended our legal system to be reactionary. A crime has to occur for the law to get involved and a crime means someone was actually hurt. The legal system is meant to address when that does happen. It's not meant to regulate us all into some kind of padded world where no one can ever get hurt, and all behavior that five miles down the road could lead to someone getting hurt must be stopped, or else.
Show me the victim, show me their wounds, or shut the fuck up.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 07:13:34 ago (+1/-0)
A crime has to occur for the law to get involved and a crime means someone was actually hurt.
That doesn't make sense. Imagine somebody put a contract out on your life, and a hitman accepted. Are you saying you wouldn't want both parties arrested and put in prison? Or would you rather wait until you are dead?
Anybody else curious why they all look like the white male members of an fbi academy class and the police haven't removed any of their their matching masks so they can be identified?
There are a couple dozen white guys actually trying to do something, who will be fired from their jobs and their houses and families attacked by antifa Monday, while a coward do nothing bitch like you calls them feds online.
What are you suggesting Agent Noseberg? That perhaps we should blow something up with a van and explosives that you can provide? But in Minecraft, of course.
You don't end up on voat 2.0 not knowing how the fed game plan works, and what PF does. To equate marching with glowops is either willful ignorance, or kike funded trolling.
Does it hurt feeling like your bailing water from the titanic with a teaspoon, as you pretend to be one of us? As I turn all of my neighbors into fascists, and my kids turn all their friends into nazis? Middle america is not looking to your propaganda anymore, and the moment a WN like me points them in the right direction, they are one of us. When your time comes, no one will be following orders. It will be pure instinct.
They're political activists who keep it within the limits of the law because sure as shit they'll be arrested for their activities, while niggers burning down entire blocks are given a free pass. They are not feds.
There's definitely feds within Patriot Front. Any group of White men who get together on a regular basis for things like Bible study or target practice is going to have the feds with a telescope up their ass. There's no doubt that there are feds within PF, but PF is not a fed op.
A fed run op pushes its members to commit to illegal acts so they can arrest them and say that without fed intervention, there would have been a terrorist attack.
The leader of patriot front was in a leadership position in vanguard America even before he turned 18. So unless the fbi somehow hired him, recruited him, and trained him at the age of 14 or 15 specifically for this purpose than it is highly unlikely.
I'm not saying he's a fed, but I'm positive there's feds within PF. Maybe not straight up federal agents, but informants.
Guys who committed some minor offense that they trumped up the charges for and promised to make go away if they reported. Or the voluntary informant, the faggot that always imagined himself being a super secret double agent, and now has his chance.
Any group large enough is going to be infiltrated. The leaders have to take steps to mitigate potential damage by infiltrators though. For future protests, I would recommend PF compartmentalizes every detail. All information is need to know only. Lower ranks not given any information on the location of the protest until they get there.
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 3 yearsJun 14, 2022 08:22:51 ago (+1/-0)
They also do try to turn people. There was that one British guy who went to jail multiple times and he's talked in interviews how he was constantly solicited to join up and threatened if he didn't.
I can't think of his name, but he really lost relevancy over the last few years. He was one of the big heads before that. IDK, maybe he's been in jail for not becoming a fed.
Didn’t they get arrested without even leaving the uhual? They literally got arrested for just being a uhual driving down the road. The amount this is a violation of the first amendment is INSANE.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 10 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 22:14:22 ago (+10/-0)
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 12 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 23:05:09 ago (+12/-0)
They're always doing this with Fed informants. The informant says "hey I'm gonna go kill that nigger over there" And the regular guys are like "ok..." And then they arrest the regular guys
[ + ] SexMachine
[ - ] SexMachine [op] 7 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 22:37:36 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] Dafurius_Nigario
[ - ] Dafurius_Nigario 2 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 04:50:26 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 0 points 3 yearsJun 14, 2022 08:25:00 ago (+0/-0)
That's the point of the charge.
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 6 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 00:12:01 ago (+6/-0)
The way they make some sense is when a crime actually does occur, the parties that knowingly helped facilitate it and plan it could be charged under conspiracy.
But the founding fathers intended our legal system to be reactionary. A crime has to occur for the law to get involved and a crime means someone was actually hurt. The legal system is meant to address when that does happen.
It's not meant to regulate us all into some kind of padded world where no one can ever get hurt, and all behavior that five miles down the road could lead to someone getting hurt must be stopped, or else.
Show me the victim, show me their wounds, or shut the fuck up.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 03:03:46 ago (+1/-0)
You forgot about destruction of property, doesn't have to be bodily harm.
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 3 yearsJun 14, 2022 08:16:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 07:13:34 ago (+1/-0)
That doesn't make sense. Imagine somebody put a contract out on your life, and a hitman accepted. Are you saying you wouldn't want both parties arrested and put in prison? Or would you rather wait until you are dead?
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 5 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 02:17:40 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 3 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 02:12:57 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Epictetus
[ - ] Epictetus 4 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 08:02:37 ago (+4/-0)
There are a couple dozen white guys actually trying to do something, who will be fired from their jobs and their houses and families attacked by antifa Monday, while a coward do nothing bitch like you calls them feds online.
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 17:51:11 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Epictetus
[ - ] Epictetus 0 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 21:07:37 ago (+0/-0)
You don't end up on voat 2.0 not knowing how the fed game plan works, and what PF does. To equate marching with glowops is either willful ignorance, or kike funded trolling.
Does it hurt feeling like your bailing water from the titanic with a teaspoon, as you pretend to be one of us? As I turn all of my neighbors into fascists, and my kids turn all their friends into nazis? Middle america is not looking to your propaganda anymore, and the moment a WN like me points them in the right direction, they are one of us. When your time comes, no one will be following orders. It will be pure instinct.
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 2 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 08:11:02 ago (+2/-0)
“We think you would have committed a crime so we booked you for the crime”.
[ + ] QuestionEverything
[ - ] QuestionEverything -2 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 22:33:53 ago (+6/-8)
Who the fuck do ppl think this is? Middle class militia?
lol
[ + ] SexMachine
[ - ] SexMachine [op] 11 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 22:36:31 ago (+12/-1)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 7 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 22:44:47 ago (+8/-1)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 6 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 23:00:39 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] SexMachine
[ - ] SexMachine [op] 7 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 23:24:52 ago (+7/-0)
A fed run op pushes its members to commit to illegal acts so they can arrest them and say that without fed intervention, there would have been a terrorist attack.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 4 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 00:51:32 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 00:18:30 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] SexMachine
[ - ] SexMachine [op] 2 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 00:26:40 ago (+2/-0)
Guys who committed some minor offense that they trumped up the charges for and promised to make go away if they reported. Or the voluntary informant, the faggot that always imagined himself being a super secret double agent, and now has his chance.
Any group large enough is going to be infiltrated. The leaders have to take steps to mitigate potential damage by infiltrators though. For future protests, I would recommend PF compartmentalizes every detail. All information is need to know only. Lower ranks not given any information on the location of the protest until they get there.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 03:40:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 3 yearsJun 14, 2022 08:22:51 ago (+1/-0)
I can't think of his name, but he really lost relevancy over the last few years. He was one of the big heads before that. IDK, maybe he's been in jail for not becoming a fed.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 02:37:06 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 08:15:16 ago (+1/-0)
Hell they might be feds with no other purpose then to go online and call them feds, so the right shits on what they should be doing.
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism 10 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 23:26:49 ago (+10/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 11 points 3 yearsJun 11, 2022 23:50:26 ago (+11/-0)
[ + ] Belrick
[ - ] Belrick 7 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 00:42:29 ago (+7/-0)
We cannot survive without grouping and organizing.
So spy agencies watch out for these groups then arrest them on invented charges.
[ + ] NorthAmericanPorchMonkey
[ - ] NorthAmericanPorchMonkey -1 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 00:39:40 ago (+3/-4)
[ + ] Thatguy
[ - ] Thatguy 2 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 00:48:14 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] 3Whuurs
[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 01:55:41 ago (+0/-0)
Can’t get past the captcha in a dozen tries.
I’ve tried twice before in the last 6 months.
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 08:16:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DonaldJTrump
[ - ] DonaldJTrump 0 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 10:07:51 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] jules_voight
[ - ] jules_voight -1 points 3 yearsJun 12, 2022 16:47:19 ago (+0/-1)