https://archive.ph/F2GGLFurious Dutch farmers brought cows to The Hague and threatened to slaughter the animals on Tuesday in protest of the Netherlands' $26 billion climate plan that could reduce the livestock population by 30%.
The Netherlands, one of Europe's top greenhouse gas emitters, is planning on halving its nitrogen output by 2030, Bloomberg reported. The government plan would shutter some farms, as much of the nitrogen is blamed on manure and fertilizer from cattle.
Agenda 2030 in action.
[ + ] dulcima
[ - ] dulcima 11 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 04:12:57 ago (+11/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 06:55:33 ago (+3/-0)
I've been seeing them trying to meme it in supermarkets for a few years now but it's not selling. They stock way more fake-meat products than anyone is interested in buying.
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[ - ] boekanier 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 07:28:30 ago (+3/-0)
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[ - ] boekanier 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 07:27:35 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] WillisJaxson
[ - ] WillisJaxson 9 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 05:04:40 ago (+9/-0)*
The argument that ammonia produced from animal waste is dangerous to the environment is fucking ridiculous if you've ever owned a fish tank. Ammonia is only a problem if it is in a barren and contained environment. Think little glass fish bowl with nothing but a goldfish. If you're not changing out the water frequently, that goldfish is dead.
But, you add in some media for denitrifying bacteria to grow and it breaks down that ammonia into nitrites then nitrates. That bacteria is ever present, making up around 15% of all on earth. If a cow pisses on the ground or in water, that bacteria converts it to something basically harmless.
It's how your septic systems work, or water purifcation plants for that matter. This is a big lie for a bad outcome. It's literally bullshit vs bullshit.
EDIT: No, you can't just drop a few rocks, gravel or sand into a little fish bowl and expect everything to take care of itself. But, given a large enough water volume, then yes. Big tanks are easier to take care of than little ones. The pond at the park has fish in it without anyone having to change the water.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 06:58:48 ago (+3/-0)
I don't agree with their anti-human agenda, but they do have a point. Agricultural runoff can be a problem where animals are concentrated in high enough numbers. It's not unmanagable, it's actually a valuable secondary product, but it does need to be managed and if it's not then it can kill a river just as easily as a poorly managed mine.
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[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 08:22:06 ago (+3/-0)
Either it's bad for the environment and using it causes "demand" for it.
Or it's good for the environment and using it steals it from nature.
Everything is either good or bad for the environment, esp. if you are willing to use absurd arguments to inflate or manufacture how good or bad for the environment it is.
You will have nothing, and be happy once you are dead.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 4 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 06:54:18 ago (+4/-0)
Why tf does anyone care about nitrogen?
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 07:29:06 ago (+3/-0)*
Its obtained by extracting it from the air. So as long as the facilities are still there short of natural disaster the only reason for a shortage would be humans creating a shortage.
You can easily look up how to do it at home. Nitrogen shortages can only be induced by human deeds or natural disaster.
Much like how outside of damaged facilities the only reason for a sudden water or electrical crisis in any non third world nation would be due to natural disaster or humans intentionally making the situation that way.
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer
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[ + ] TheViciousMrPim
[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 07:52:48 ago (+2/-0)
I'm not saying farmers should raise less cattle. I eat meat. I wouldn't want that. But that is the logic this law is based on.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 16:39:22 ago (+0/-0)
I don't think cows are in danger of changing the proportion of oxygen in the atmosphere any time soon.
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[ + ] knightwarrior41
[ - ] knightwarrior41 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 09:31:50 ago (+3/-0)
this is already happening here: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-biden-climate-advisor-seems-happy-about-american-job-losses
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism [op] 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 10:31:04 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 07:13:01 ago (+3/-0)
If I wanted to manufacture a food crisis I would target their food production.
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