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Had woman tell me there is still a wage gap. And that feminism has not caused any of America's problems?

submitted by Doglegwarrior to AskUpgoat 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 10:58:49 ago (+7/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

I tried bringing up example and all she would say it was evil cheating men in the 50s and 60s and women just broke free and shit.

None of the problems we are facing as a society is due to feminism in anyway at all in the people's minds. She has a doctorate btw

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/03/04/5-ways-feminism-has-ruined-america


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[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 13:03:09 ago (+3/-0)*

Dont let them get away with that. Women are paid less because they are less productive. Most jobs where a tangible work product can be objectively evaluated, women underperform. Thats why women don’t seek out those jobs. They seek out bullshit jobs with subjectively evaluated work products.

This bitch has a phd in bullshitology, and society doesnt really need her work product. She probably just churns out social constructs all day. If people had a choice not to buy what she makes, would she have a job.

We live in a fake and gay economy. The GDP is an illusion. The service economy is an illusion. All the shit that is absolutely critical is done by men or could be done by men better except for maybe textile manufacturing or nursing.

Men created the professional sphere, the market economy as we know it: the colony organism that takes raw materials and transforms them in to useable forms of food and power and shelter and transportation and information. This engine of wealth and stability would instantly fall apart without men. Women have played a relatively minor role within it historically. Women could literally all go home and hang out all day watching soaps and everything would still get done. That is not the case if men went home.

“Matriarchal” or matrilineal societies are the worst, most backward societies on Earth. They are stuck 50,000 years in the past. They are totally unproductive and have little or no heritable wealth. And they are the societies where the women do most of the work.

Our economy has turned into a massive redistribution scheme controlled by governemnt and other large corporations. It is a bloated bureacracy of decreasing usefulness which sucks the life blood out of the real economy. No surprise, this bureacracy is largely female. This phd’s contribution to society is purely theoretical and does not really exist. She hates the idea of merit based pay because then the emperor has no clothes. Shes living off a ponzi scheme but someone has implanted this meme in her brain to let her justify demanding a bigger share of the booty.

Tell her that her work product is bullshit. People dont want what she’s selling. She doesnt create $100,000 of wealth. Shes just a vassal of the plutocrats, and her salary is payoff.

Feminism doesnt want equality for women. It wants zero accountability for women. Men should just be the slaves of feminists while they follow their bliss and eat, pray, love. Sounds real fucking nice but its not freedom from oppression— it is oppression. Feminist women literally want the license to kill their babies in the 9th month of pregnancy so they can pursue endless orgasms with zero consequences— otherwise it’s somehow ‘forced birth’— if he didnt force fuck you, it aint forced birth. They want to dress like whores and get high and drunk and fuck strangers and then change their minds the next day and file rape charges. Its a free country, but if a man hit’s on me in anyway and I dont like him he’s a sex pest. But also: millionaires and hot dudes, Im totally approachable. Feminism is a tyrrany and a hypocrisy used to enslave and control the meritorious by the opportunists in the regime of no accountability, just like antiracism.

I could go on but I’ll give you guys a break. Don’t take this shit. They dont want to be equal. They don’t want to be accountable. They dont want to be treated like men treat each other. They want you to be solicitious and chivalrous and indulge them in their hobbies and and fix their cars. Quid pro quo. Having babies and caring for them is women’s job in society and we are good at that we are laying down on the job. I dont take this broken logic from feminists. You should see their faces when they realize Im not on their side.

Usefulness. Accountability. Objective valuation of work product. No more brownie points for boobies. No more babies dying for your selfish sexual odyssey. Do femeinists want these things? Or just to be supported by dudes they won’t fuck?

[ - ] Doglegwarrior [op] 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 18, 2022 01:03:03 ago (+1/-0)

Jesus christ amen preach it brother... she is a pharmacist so ya not sure how productive that is for society... she is good at skilled labor like doing tile and refinishing windows oddly

[ - ] Reawakened 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:07:28 ago (+4/-1)

Trying to use logic on a woman is like trying to use handcuffs on an octopus.

[ - ] thatsrealfuckinggay 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 17:05:48 ago (+2/-0)

Why are women working? Why have modern men been convinced that women working is a virtuous endeavor or one worth pursuing?

Feminism is the arm of communism concerned with destroying the nuclear family. It is part and parcel with the degeneracy and destruction of our society. Feminism drives down wages, convinces women they are "equal" to men with no regard to thinks like "women and children first" so they get a hyperequality that doesn't involve the messy dark things that make society run like wars.

Feminism teaches women to not raise their own children, if they have children at all, but instead to consume and produce, poorly at the latter and profoundly efficient at the former. It creates a net-tax negative situation where men are forced to subsidize women. The women stop saving themselves for marriage. The women stop breastfeeding. They wear pants. They engage in male behaviors. They "are" men. It's a one-way street.

Feminism destroys social cohesion. It makes the sexes hate each other. It purposely confuses children and gives them no proper role models. It demoralizes the very fiber of our society at its core. It castrates men and liberates the darkness in women's hearts. Feminism is the most evil invention that has ever existed. It is the rot that has ruined many lives.

[ - ] HughBriss 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:05:10 ago (+2/-0)

I didn't know you could get a doctorate in cosmetology.

Seriously, though, I would recommend a book by Warren Farrell, "Why Men Earn More". His conclusion is that when all factors are compared straight across for age, marriage status, children, longevity in job or career, education, etc., men and women earn the same except for some groups of women with higher degrees in specific fields.

Men earn more because they take more dangerous, high risk jobs, work more overtime, and take less time off work. And they don't have large gaps in their job record. It's really that simple.

[ - ] Mopar_or_nocar24 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 12:11:14 ago (+2/-0)

Don't forget the basic fact that men take stem fields in college far far more than women do.

[ - ] osomperne 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 18, 2022 21:52:56 ago (+0/-0)

"broke free" god that is so fucking dumb.

I straight up told my sister women were never oppressed and that is a retarded idea.

Women get so much free shit via opportunity, straight up money, a propaganda machine funded by their slaves, the entire bank account of any thirsty loser who they encounter, and the list goes on and on; the system has been coined "alt welfare"

Ladies, I cannot meet a girl today, move in her house the same day and start moving my shit in the following morning. If you think men and women are equal you're out of your fucking mind.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:50:40 ago (+1/-0)

You did laugh in her face didn't you?

[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:06:19 ago (+2/-1)

Women are stupid and anything they say is not worth taking seriously

[ - ] ZeudesJesucifer 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:10:55 ago (+1/-1)

It's taken several decades, several hot women and more than several grand for me to reach this conclusion.

The "smart women" are the worst too, they can justify any old stupid shit.

[ - ] HeyJames 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:15:28 ago (+3/-0)

'Smart women' just have improved ability to perform mental gymnastics to justify their own bullshit

[ - ] Not_a_redfugee 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:26:04 ago (+1/-0)

Fukn true af famalam

[ - ] ZeudesJesucifer 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 12:00:29 ago (+1/-1)

This is true. Painfully so in my case. Lesson learned? There are no marriage worthy women to choose from, just a variety of psychos and whores.

Men have changed little over centuries, but thanks to feminism, in the past 2 or 3 decades women have become men and they don't even know it.

[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 14:05:06 ago (+2/-0)

I would say men have changed in that softness and femininity have over taken the upbringing of men.

[ - ] ZeudesJesucifer -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 14:22:45 ago (+0/-1)*

I agree, but it's a fairly recent development and it isn't as prevalent. Most men still look and behave like men, but most women have been taught to see femininity as a weakness.

[ - ] Not_a_redfugee 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:04:34 ago (+0/-0)

Did you slap her?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:42:25 ago (+0/-0)

Lol.

[ - ] ZeudesJesucifer -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:08:19 ago (+0/-1)

There's no wage gap. Every year most blokes challenge their boss for a pay rise or threaten to leave. Most women don't do this because they are quite literally pussies and of course, are most likely aware that the threat would be called and theyd have to quit given they only got the job because they were fuckable and the office/shop/website needed some female eye candy to offset the sausagefest.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:44:26 ago (+3/-0)

I dont think that dudes negotiating more aggressively is the main cause of the pay gap. I think women have lower productivity in most jobs.

[ - ] ZeudesJesucifer -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 17, 2022 11:56:14 ago (+0/-1)

Agreed.