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TIL about Irish Travellers

submitted by NeonGreen to TIL 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 10:03:21 ago (+21/-0)     (en.m.wikipedia.org)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

I found this to be an interesting read.


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[ - ] PostWallHelena 9 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 10:51:09 ago (+9/-0)

Yeah they are a distinct group within the irish population, but descended from irish— maybe a pack of wandering criminal gangs from the middle ages. They wont say it on wikipedia but these are a criminally inclined group. They are notorious for scams especially in construction contracting.

I recall a case from a few years ago in which they attacked an elderly london pensioner while burgling his home and somehow the old fella successfully defended himself by stabbing the traveller with his own weapon. Well the travellers came out to harrass this old man in his wife every day for weeks. Because HE had the audacity to kill one of theirs while he was burgling little old men!

When they show up in a town, they will trash it. They will steal, litter, fight in the streets. They have a bad reputation for a reason.

They are very pious catholics. They are keen on early marriage, presumably to prevent premarital sex or perhaps to keep people from leaving the group.

Its interesting. I dont find the irish to be a particularly criminal group — they are mostly honest and moral, but clearly not these folks and I do believe its genetic. So the question is, are their special traits due to the nature of the founding population or are they due to the itinerant lifestyle that travellers lead?

Like jews they are social parasites that live off other societies. How do such groups come in to being? Is it simply by living an economic strategy in which the subculture has no stake whatsoever in the well being of the host society? Could itinerant groups simply evolve to have hostile attitudes toward the host societies they exploit in order to exploit them better? A wolf with compassion toward sheep is a skinny wolf. Do tendencies to view themselves as victims of the host society also help to make a social parasite more successful?

We just want to live peacefully in our caravans. People make up stories about us. We’re good catholics.

Gypsies and jews say the same thing. Claiming victim is often part of a wider strategy of deception. For their part, I believe these folks truly feel wronged by society as do the jews. This belief is key to the mental justification process for exploiting and harming other people.

But maybe rootlessness itself leads to these parasitic strategies of other people. Farmers live by hard work. Their reputation is important and they cant run away when they steal from a neighbor. They are invested. Itinerants can trick people and then cut and run.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 4 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 11:26:49 ago (+4/-0)

Not like jews... jews are a parasite virus hybrid. Jews are like the things from science fiction where they want to be the brains of a culture or society.

Jews initiate have tribal group preference and trick and lie their way to the top of societies with wealth blackmail or criminal behavior. They are mentally fucked up and capitalist and globalism have hyper empowered them.

The genetic aspect of jews is the parasite

The religion is the virus that once the nation is infected they slowly tak3 over the key industries of influence.

I call it the meepac. MEDIA ENTERTAINMENT EDUCATION PORN ADVERTISING COMPLEX

now you could throw in medical as well because they are very over represented in that field.

Anyways good points enjoyed reading your break down but kikes are different

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 13:29:40 ago (+2/-0)

Gypsies and travellers have most of the traits youve listed here. They are parasitic.

The difference is that jews started out as priests. Gypsies and travellers probably started out as beggars or theives. But they are all absolutely social parasites. Travellers have a less sophisticated con. Jews try to redefine the notions of right and wrong in order to steal from you. Its the same.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 11:29:26 ago (+1/-0)

Imagine if the travelers where more like the Amish. Man thinking about this would be awesome.

These travelers show up in town they are super honest hard working and will take on home building remodeling and handy man jobs. They want good pay but they come in and kick ass. They clean up do volunteer work and cook awesome food. Every one would want these people to come to there town in fact they would probably be scheduled seasonally.

Only if these fucking Irish travelers where not gammas

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 11:56:39 ago (+0/-0)

How does cleaning up other people’s messes benefit the amish?

Within evolution every group is selfish. And we are within evolution. Amish are neat and tidy and hard working because it benefits them or it did in the past . But whats great about the amish is they are self sustaining. The only things they exploit are corn and cows. Their economy is simple and its clear to see who is pulling their weight and who is not. They have high accountability in an economic sense.

No one knows who is being productive in our society because it is too complex and bureacratic. Bureacrats have alot of power so naturally they declare they are highly useful people that deserve the high compensation they give themselves. But they produce nothing concrete. Theoretically they could be generating such fantastic improvements in the efficiency of our culture that they are indirectly creating wealth. But that doesnt seem likely, given the state of things.

But like the travellers, it serves these bureacrats to say they are very fine people and it serves them to believe it. But they are exploiters.

Mother nature will reward social parastes to a point. Travellers have discovered a niche in which they avoid work, avoid productivity and live off the excess of the host population, just like bureacrats. They are born with a believe that they are entitled to live this way. Amish see it as a corrupt way of life. Travellers see it as practical and justified.

Our moral compass is genetic and we are selected for moral behaviors based on what has made us reproductively successful in the past. In other words economics. Hunter gatherers tend to steal shit because they never developed a strong sense of private property. They had no use for it. I suspect similar problems in travellers.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 13:29:48 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 13:33:15 ago (+0/-0)

And I explained why the Amish don’t do that.

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 16:21:50 ago (+0/-0)

The Amish aren't nomadic

[ - ] SaneGoatiSwear 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 14:38:16 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah they are a distinct group within the irish population, but descended from irish— maybe a pack of wandering criminal gangs from the middle ages. They wont say it on wikipedia but these are a criminally inclined group. They are notorious for scams especially in construction contracting

Irish travellers were originally the land owning class in Ireland. They were kicked off their land by the English and were forced to become nomads. Eight hundred years of inbreeding with a selection bias towards violence and criminality has created its own distinct class of cunts. But they didn’t start that way.

[ - ] Lihui90234 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 16:20:23 ago (+0/-0)

That pensioner incident were romani gypsy's not Irish.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 1, 2022 11:44:16 ago (+0/-0)

The media called them travellers. They dead guy certainly looked light enough to be an irish traveller but I don’t know.

[ - ] RedBarchetta 5 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 10:17:25 ago (+5/-0)

Pikeys

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 10:45:33 ago (+2/-0)

Yah likght dags?

[ - ] Irelandlost 5 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 10:58:07 ago (+5/-0)

Despite making up only 0.6% of the Irish population, tinkers account for over 10% of the male Irish prison population, and 22% of the Irish female prison population.

Basically our niggers, but we have nowhere near the levels of infestation experienced by Americans.

[ - ] SmokeyMeadow 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 10:43:56 ago (+3/-0)

My dad told me stories about these fuckers. They were basically gypsies, and would come around looking for ways to rip people off. Example, they would offer to patch your driveway for a really cheap price per foot of patching. Then they would lay down a "patch" that was ten times bigger than it needed to be. They were blue collar con artists, essentially. In his area, they were referred to as Irish traders. Dad told me a story about how one of them had a hotrod SS 396 El Camino and would dominate on the local street racing scene. Had a bed-mounted water tank right over the rear wheels, so he could adjust the weight for the perfect traction off the line. It was a clever setup and he took a lot of people's money.

[ - ] gimpyoldman 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 10:57:05 ago (+2/-0)

1997 movie Traveller starring Bill Paxton. Shows them as transient scammers/con artists in North Carolina.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120366/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_44

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 13:31:56 ago (+1/-0)

There was another one that romanticized them called Into the West with Gabriel Byrne.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 20:22:27 ago (+1/-0)

There was a fictional tv series featuring them. Called The Riches, or something like that.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 1, 2022 11:21:40 ago (+0/-0)

With Eddie Izzard. I saw one or two episodes.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 11:31:45 ago (+1/-0)

Not one word in the article about their scamming and stealing, lol

[ - ] NeonGreen [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 1, 2022 06:40:46 ago (+0/-0)

I just assumed that shit. I didn't need the article you explain it. I was blown away by A. There low ass life expectancy B. Being there own subracial group. It's wild.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 12:17:37 ago (+1/-0)

My mom called them tinkers. Never had a good word to say about them.

[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 12:48:23 ago (+1/-0)

Gypsies by another name.

[ - ] TardWhisperer 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 14:43:19 ago (+1/-0)

Governments hate people with no fixed address. But I have never cared for the nomadic lifestyle much. I am more of a build a fort and defend it kinda guy.

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 16:23:28 ago (+0/-0)

They are often incorrectly referred to as "Gypsies",[4]

This name is not incorrect. Gypsy refers to anyone who is nomadic and travels in the wagon and scams people. It can also be used as a metonym for the Romani or whatever you want to call them.

[ - ] Krier55 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 16:25:46 ago (+0/-0)

Mikey the pikey.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 19:32:19 ago (+0/-0)

You you’ll have groups like this in America very soon

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 31, 2022 20:23:08 ago (+1/-0)

They have been here for decades.

[ - ] Name 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 1, 2022 04:26:42 ago (+0/-0)

We have traveling band of gypsies on the East Coast. They travel in convoys and can strip a vacation home in a wealthy neighborhood in about an hour. They came through my area about seven years ago. A well organized operation.

[ - ] Shotinthedark 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 1, 2022 01:53:02 ago (+0/-0)

Same thing as gypsies.