Is it legal to shoot looters?? - Upgoat - "where a goat can be a goat"

In Texas, you can shoot someone on your property if it’s dark. That could be a looter. Or if you’re in your house and a looter enters, you can shoot. There was a guy in Houston that shot a burglar that was into his neighbors house, nothing happened to him. I think in Texas, you could get away with shooting a looter. Not sure about Florida..

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 09:25:15 ago (+1/-0)

Prosecutorial discretion and juries.

The Texas standard is nothing more than fear of imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death. No more, no less.

[ + ] BulletStopper

[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 1, 2022 12:28:34 ago (+0/-0)

The difference between "Larceny of a Residence" and "Burglary", is that "Burglary" occurs during the hours of darkness.

"Burglary" is considered a crime of violence, due to the fact that during the hours of darkness it is presumed that people will be in their home. Which means that it is assumed that the thief, being aware of the increased potential of a violent interaction with the occupants, is acting with wanton disregard and is presumed to be prepared to use violence on the occupants in the course of completing his crime.

That's why in most states shooting a stranger inside you house is almost always a slam dunk "self-defense" defense.

Reminder: DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS AFTER A SHOOTING. HAVE A LAWYER'S NUMBER HANDY AND CALL IT. MAKE NO STATEMENTS. ANSWER NO QUESTIONS BEYOND BASIC ID. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM HOW "RIGHT" YOU ARE. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. THEY ARE NOT ON YOUR SIDE.

[ + ] SUMBICH

[ - ] SUMBICH 2 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 08:19:50 ago (+2/-0)

you should review your own states law.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 08:27:32 ago (+3/-0)

Virtually every state's standard for justifiable homicide is based on federal court rulings that in order to use deadly force a reasonable person must be in fear of imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death. And that isn't necessarily going to be written in law, but is the standard for justifiable homicide.

[ + ] Deleted

[ - ] deleted 5 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 09:33:49 ago (+5/-0)

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[ + ] bonghits4jeebus

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 16:34:51 ago (+1/-0)

I thought in Texas if they were on your property stealing your stuff you could shoot them?

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 17:21:28 ago (+1/-0)

No. You can stop them and if they put you in fear of imminent bodily injury or death, then, you can shoot them.

[ + ] SUMBICH

[ - ] SUMBICH 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 2, 2022 20:17:57 ago (+0/-0)

some states allow deadly force in the protection of property.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 3, 2022 06:41:56 ago (+0/-0)

Not exactly. They allow you to protect your property with deadly force, if necessary. You can stop someone from stealing or damaging your property and if the put you in fear of imminent death or serious bodily injury, then you can shoot them.

[ - ] con77 8 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 08:47:01 ago (+8/-0)

shoot. shovel. shut up

[ + ] Thyhorrorcosmic103

[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 1, 2022 07:38:54 ago (+0/-0)

Make sure you buy your quick lime in advance. Recent purchases are suspicious.

[ + ] BulletStopper

[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 2, 2022 00:37:20 ago (+0/-0)

Quicklime hell, if we've learned anything from Joe Pesci it's, "Dig the hole first."

You're out there digging a hole in the middle of a cornfield by headlights at 2:30am with a body in the trunk, I guarantee that's when Deputy Fife is going to come around all curious. Next thing you know, you're digging another fucking hole.
Dig the hole first.

I did. And it's still out there, somewhere, in the state of Texas. And I sleep very well at night knowing that.

(As for things like quick lime? You are correct. Plan ahead. Make sure to drive far and pay cash.)

[ + ] SUMBICH

[ - ] SUMBICH 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 2, 2022 21:14:41 ago (+0/-0)

do you seed and water the backfill too? asking for a friend.

[ + ] BulletStopper

[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 3, 2022 07:29:38 ago (+0/-0)

The hole is still there. Actually, I'm close enough to the coast that Plan A now involves chicken wire, cinder blocks and chain. The little crabs are God's creature too and they gotta eat. Same as the little fishies.

[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 5 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 07:40:43 ago (+5/-0)

just keep your fucking mouth shut

[ - ] boekanier 4 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 09:30:08 ago (+4/-0)

no, but apparently it's legal to loot (under democrats)

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 4 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 06:56:16 ago (+4/-0)

Not only legal , but great fun too

[ - ] Prairie 3 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 07:57:10 ago (+3/-0)

You're asking if looters might drown while looting your house? It's possible...

[ - ] scoopadoop 2 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 09:36:08 ago (+2/-0)

depends on what state you are in. in illinois, if a looter breaks into your home, you have to barricade yourself in a room and yell at them through the door to go away. the only time you can shoot them is if they are breaking in specifically saying they want to hurt you.

[ - ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot 2 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 08:58:37 ago (+2/-0)

Don't get seen. Don't drink in the future and don't tell anyone.

[ - ] Shotinthedark 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 13:12:01 ago (+1/-0)

If there is no power there are no cameras

[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 22:24:46 ago (+0/-0)

Why do you have to ask? If you have guns you should use them or you are a cuck.

Muh guns, muh guns.

[ - ] drhitler 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 18:35:07 ago (+0/-0)

You're a private company, you can do whatever you want, according to reddit anyway

[ - ] Laputois 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 12:49:05 ago (+0/-0)

Always keep a cheap throwdown.

[ - ] x0x7 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 11:37:32 ago (+0/-0)

In Florida, yes. I don't know about other places. Probably not.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 11:35:36 ago (+0/-0)

Are you jewish?

[ - ] NedsHead 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 10:26:02 ago (+0/-0)

White = yes, black = no

[ - ] SteppingRazor 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 09:25:53 ago (+0/-0)

Defund the police and we can do anything.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 06:53:55 ago (+1/-1)

a) those living within the process of dying cannot protect anything; only resist the temptation of dying by growing life or ignoring it for loss.

b) if the temporary (living) within the ongoing (process of dying) makes a claim (mine); then that tempts others (looters) to want it.

c) others represent the inspiration (need) and temptation (want) for one to sustain or destroy self...depending on choice of interaction.

legal to shoot

Under perceivable natural law one represents free will of choice; suggested laws of men tempt one to submit to the suggesting choices of others. Asking others to confirm the choice to defend oneself ignores ones willing submission beforehand.

to shoot

The only weapon in existence represents choice; hence the sleight of hand "weapon of choice"

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 06:42:08 ago (+1/-1)*

You can only shoot someone if you are in fear of imminent serious bodily injury or death.

Yes I edited it.

[ + ] GoldenAgeWhen

[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 2 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 07:16:03 ago (+2/-0)

And that subjectivity is the problem. If the judge is a leftist (many are) then "imminent fear" is true if a leftist runs over an 18 year old white kid, and is "not imminent fear" if a black is charging and grabbing a gun from a white guy.

It is also "imminent fear" if it is police vs white (like hotel airsoft guy).

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 07:19:33 ago (+1/-0)

Not "imminent fear". "Fear of imminent threat".

And, in the end, it's a jury, not a judge, making this call.

It is subjective, but if you are actually in fear of an imminent threat, it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[ + ] Coluphid

[ - ] Coluphid 2 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 07:22:07 ago (+2/-0)

African Male hominids are statistically the most dangerous creatures on this planet. Im immediately in a serious and warranted fear of injury and death whenever in their presence.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 07:29:06 ago (+2/-0)

You can be as scared of niggers as you want. But I noticed you left out a very important word. IMMINENT. But you go ahead and kill a nigger cause niggers are scary. You can make your case to a jury and they will decide if the nigger you killed was an IMMINENT threat or not.

[ + ] Bigdeal

[ - ] Bigdeal 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 10:12:16 ago (+0/-0)

You just need to get people that know about the imminent threat niggers are on the jury. Those that know never to relax.

[ + ] ImplicationOverReason

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 07:01:02 ago (+1/-0)

imminent fear

Fear towards suggested outcome (death) tempts the living to ignore the threat of origin (process of dying). Those who consent to suggested outcome are ignoring the need to resist perceivable origin. Sleight of hand. "fear is the mind-killer"

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 07:05:32 ago (+2/-0)

Who is "ignoring the need to resist perceivable origin"? Those that shoot in self defense?

Do you think your farts smell good?

[ + ] ImplicationOverReason

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 13:19:36 ago (+0/-0)

Who is "ignoring the need to resist perceivable origin"? Those that shoot in self defense?

The choice used to "shoot in self defense" represents the center of a balance based system (need/want). Those who put themselves into a suggested imbalance (want vs not want) are both ignoring the need for perceiving choice to adapt to perceivable balance.

Instead of seeking confirmation for shooting in self defense; ask yourself how one came into the want vs not want conflict of reason? Those who choose to stay in perceivable balance aka those who resist the temptation of suggested imbalance; seldom find themselves in a situation where they have to shoot another for self defense.

Balance represents the foundation for choice to sustain self. Any conflict among suggesting choices tempts one to ignore that. Within a balance based system one cannot shoot oneself out of imbalance...an imbalance caused by fear for suggested outcomes.

Resisting origin implies balancing as choice in-between need (perceivable) and want (suggested). One choice sustains living; the other tempts dying. A weapon represents a tool for each side; not a solution to a problem. If one lacks to comprehend how to wield choice; then all weapons become impotent for self sustenance.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 13:53:26 ago (+0/-0)

So, yes, you huff your farts. Got it.

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Is it legal to shoot looters?? submitted by Hidinfrombiden to AskUpgoat 2.6 yearsSep 30, 2022 06:39:06 ago (+12/-0) (AskUpgoat)

Is it legal to shoot looters??
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