submitted by anon to askanon2.6 yearsOct 3, 2022 17:37:07 ago (+9/-0) (askanon)
Got some competitive offers from other employers recently.
Been getting a lot of praise for my recent work from all the bosses (including my direct boss to who this email was written).
In a critical position that would be expensive to re-train someone on.
Boss just sent an email to have a meeting on Wednesday. I'm prepared to reiterate the info from my original email (pretty much what is said above, with cited sources).
You are off to a good start. You’ve opened the gate and you have a good idea of what you are worth to competitors.
The secret in the negotiation is that they don’t know how how serious you are or the offers or the amount.
My pitch would be this: Thank you for meeting with me. I enjoy working for you and the relationships here at work. With the rising costs of everything, I cannot help but begin to entertain some of the offers that I have been receiving from competitors. If I could be making X dollars that would help me to stay focused on my work here. You’ve been great and really hoping to work something out.
never accept a counter offer. statistically speaking around 60 or 70% of people who accepted on end up leaving the company, because there is now bad blood in knowing the company could have fairly compensated you by this much, but didn't. praises don't mean shit, and never grow attached to your company. you will be the first one on the chopping block when they finally outsource your role to rajesh from karachi.
you want them to praise you? stop patting you on the back and COMPENSATE you properly. that's how praises work at a proper company. if they did that instead of patting you on the head like a dog then you wouldn't even be having this conversation. the "good job bro high five" are only for dogshit mom/pop shops so i hope you don't work at one of those.
yes it does. I got my meeting by turning in my 2 weeks. They got so struck by it they had to set a meeting at a steakhouse for lunch the next day. I made them wait one more day for my bottom line. I told them the next day and they accepted ... wiping sweat off their brow.
An email saying you're getting competitive offers smells of "I don't want to go anywhere so I'll probably settle for less than the max."
The two weeks method and "not caring" attitude strongly signals to the company that the employee is ready to move on...so if you want that employee to stay for whatever reason, be prepared to kiss the employee’s ass.
You'll NEVER get paid more for good work you're already doing. Best bet is to detail how you will take on MORE work and how well you'll do that in addition to what you're already doing. Then be firm about the salary expectation related to said extra work. Decide ahead of time if it'll be worth it.
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[ - ] anon 2573207 4 points 2.6 yearsOct 3, 2022 18:31:56 ago (+4/-0)
The secret in the negotiation is that they don’t know how how serious you are or the offers or the amount.
My pitch would be this: Thank you for meeting with me. I enjoy working for you and the relationships here at work. With the rising costs of everything, I cannot help but begin to entertain some of the offers that I have been receiving from competitors. If I could be making X dollars that would help me to stay focused on my work here. You’ve been great and really hoping to work something out.
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praises don't mean shit, and never grow attached to your company. you will be the first one on the chopping block when they finally outsource your role to rajesh from karachi.
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[ - ] anon 4286242 [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 3, 2022 23:14:50 ago (+0/-0)
Without even reading on it was obvious you misinterpreted the point of me saying that. Rwsing on, you did.
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An email saying you're getting competitive offers smells of "I don't want to go anywhere so I'll probably settle for less than the max."
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Anyone thinking the way you're saying they're thinking deserves to suffer for being stupid
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Sincerely,
Anon
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Signed
OP
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