It will roll out its Demand Flexibility scheme in November, following a trial with Octopus Energy, to pay customers to cut electricity use at peak times. As it stands, the scheme gives customers 52p for each kilowatt-hour of electricity saved during peak times and is only available to homes that have smart meters installed.
Ahh, so not only are (((they))) still using this as an excuse to punish the UK for Brexit, they're also trying to force everyone to use "smart" meters for centerally-controlled appliances. "You said something doubleplus ungood, prole. Your thermostat will be disabled for two weeks this winter."
I don't know much about the smart meters; do they communicate over wifi to appliances or through the electrical wiring? If the latter; could you install some sort of filter between the outlet and the appliance that would block the signal?
do they communicate over wifi to appliances or through the electrical wiring?
No idea. Though it would make sense if it were done over the local cell network.
If the latter; could you install some sort of filter between the outlet and the appliance that would block the signal?
Yes, though it would be obvious and likely illegal. A power conditioning circuit on the in/out line should smooth out any fluctuations used for signaling. Assuming it was done properly of course. And depending on complexity of the signal, you may need to spend an inordinate amount of time/resources fully conditioning the power against it.
(edit1)You could trick such a signal/usage stats by having a particular internal battery setup. That way you could program it to only charge during certain times and thereby hide what/when/how you use your power, though not how much you use over time. But again, this would be obvious to any looking at the usage/signal and would warrant a goon squad to go in and check your setup.
(edit2)You could set up a system that mimics "perfect" power usage, dumping said usage into a battery/capacitor system that you then use whenever you want. This would be way more complex, and still wouldn't hide your overall usage over time. It would however show to the outside monitors that you use the power as they wish and aren't obviously hiding behind a battery system.
Add in some way to input more power from elsewhere, direct to your internal system out of the "sight" of the monitor, and you could hide your usage stats even more, though hiding a power generator or solar system is somewhat more difficult.
[ + ] uvulectomy
[ - ] uvulectomy 4 points 2.6 yearsOct 9, 2022 15:06:58 ago (+4/-0)
Ahh, so not only are (((they))) still using this as an excuse to punish the UK for Brexit, they're also trying to force everyone to use "smart" meters for centerally-controlled appliances. "You said something doubleplus ungood, prole. Your thermostat will be disabled for two weeks this winter."
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[ + ] PotatoWhisperer
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No idea. Though it would make sense if it were done over the local cell network.
Yes, though it would be obvious and likely illegal. A power conditioning circuit on the in/out line should smooth out any fluctuations used for signaling. Assuming it was done properly of course. And depending on complexity of the signal, you may need to spend an inordinate amount of time/resources fully conditioning the power against it.
(edit1)You could trick such a signal/usage stats by having a particular internal battery setup. That way you could program it to only charge during certain times and thereby hide what/when/how you use your power, though not how much you use over time. But again, this would be obvious to any looking at the usage/signal and would warrant a goon squad to go in and check your setup.
(edit2)You could set up a system that mimics "perfect" power usage, dumping said usage into a battery/capacitor system that you then use whenever you want. This would be way more complex, and still wouldn't hide your overall usage over time. It would however show to the outside monitors that you use the power as they wish and aren't obviously hiding behind a battery system.
Add in some way to input more power from elsewhere, direct to your internal system out of the "sight" of the monitor, and you could hide your usage stats even more, though hiding a power generator or solar system is somewhat more difficult.
[ + ] boekanier
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[ + ] i_scream_trucks
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pretty sure its.... whenever the majority is using something.
so if everyone is being paid to use 'off peak' then its no longer 'off peak' and they dont have to pay shit.
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