The FBI is insanely corrupt: If the investigation might result in their political interests being hurt they just don't do it.
Like the courts, which are also completely rotten: If the case is not going to serve the interests of their masters, they simply refuse to heart it.
Modern tyrants have strict laws that they selectively enforce: They will make everything illegal, keep the law from being known by anyone, and then only enforce the laws when their enemies break them, and if their enemies aren't breaking any laws, the tyrant only needs to look at their history to find some instance where they broke a law unknowingly (or at the very least seem like they MIGHT have broken some law), then the punishment comes down with all the force the tyrant's pet justice system could muster, and the misdeeds (or alleged misdeeds) of the state's enemy is brought before the public by the keepers of the culture, who are also all owned by the tyrant just as the justice system is.
This is the end result of any system with aspects of democracy in it, no matter how you limit it or manage it, every democracy ultimately ends the same way, with a few demagogues seizing absolute power and then fixing the system so that it would allow them and their allies to old absolute power over the masses with an iron grip, all the while giving the people the illusion that the system works for them.
Compared to authoritarian regimes, democratic systems are far behind in representing the interests of their people, instead democracies are far more favoring of elites among the rich and powerful who form a deep state or shadow government that actually controls everything about the government, under an authoritarian regime, there's a lot less of this.
It's telling that Machiavelli thought that a democratic republic like the united states would be the perfect form of government system for a tyrant to have, it's the most stable form of tyranny.
Plato was right: We need fascism. His republic was not a democratic republic like we'd seen founded in the united states of america.
[ - ] Monica 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 19:24:40 ago (+1/-0)
"Never said that."
You sure as hell typed it though:
"This is the sole assignment of these agents, to keep the protests non-violent and law-abiding." -AntiPostmodernist
I've only had these types of argument when talking with jews. "I never said that".... when it's obvious they did say that. Fucking gas lighting faggot jew fbi commie bastard.
Read the full context of what you quoted, I said that these right wing events had agents sent into them to keep them peaceful and lawful, and that this was the only purpose theee agents were there to serve during their infiltration of these events.
Hence the use of the word "these" in the quoted sentence.
I'm not saying that there aren't other agents from the same agencies who are serving the purpose of stirring up violence or lawbreaking, they definitely have such agents out there.
But they weren't the ones these documents that I'm referencing were talking about.
It seems that they have some influence over the violence and lawfulness of an event, and that they will make it more violent and unlawful or more peaceful and lawful depending upon the interests of their bosses.
It's not an either or thing, they don't either favor peace and law or favor violence and criminality, they will work in the interest of producing one or the other depending upon the circumstances.
Stop making false assumptions and putting words in my mouth that I've never said.
Old voat used to bring him up on a regular basis. He was absolutely killed he was a real patriot he saw the evil of the Clinton's and did something and they did something in return... of course.
[ + ] AntiPostmodernist
[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 6 points 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 10:55:02 ago (+8/-2)*
Like the courts, which are also completely rotten: If the case is not going to serve the interests of their masters, they simply refuse to heart it.
Modern tyrants have strict laws that they selectively enforce: They will make everything illegal, keep the law from being known by anyone, and then only enforce the laws when their enemies break them, and if their enemies aren't breaking any laws, the tyrant only needs to look at their history to find some instance where they broke a law unknowingly (or at the very least seem like they MIGHT have broken some law), then the punishment comes down with all the force the tyrant's pet justice system could muster, and the misdeeds (or alleged misdeeds) of the state's enemy is brought before the public by the keepers of the culture, who are also all owned by the tyrant just as the justice system is.
This is the end result of any system with aspects of democracy in it, no matter how you limit it or manage it, every democracy ultimately ends the same way, with a few demagogues seizing absolute power and then fixing the system so that it would allow them and their allies to old absolute power over the masses with an iron grip, all the while giving the people the illusion that the system works for them.
Compared to authoritarian regimes, democratic systems are far behind in representing the interests of their people, instead democracies are far more favoring of elites among the rich and powerful who form a deep state or shadow government that actually controls everything about the government, under an authoritarian regime, there's a lot less of this.
It's telling that Machiavelli thought that a democratic republic like the united states would be the perfect form of government system for a tyrant to have, it's the most stable form of tyranny.
Plato was right: We need fascism. His republic was not a democratic republic like we'd seen founded in the united states of america.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 4 points 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 13:12:24 ago (+4/-0)
As long as you can charge people and put them through the ringer, you can fuck up their entire lives without ever wrongly convicting them.
[ + ] Monica
[ - ] Monica 3 points 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 12:59:54 ago (+3/-0)*
AntiPostmodernist is FBI
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=635d4012b2f04
Member for: 1 month trying to say FBI is just keeping people safe and from doing anything illegal...
[ + ] AntiPostmodernist
[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 18:32:06 ago (+1/-0)
What I said was that their modus operandi changes depending upon the political orientation of the protests they infiltrate.
Some they make more violent, others less, easy concept to grasp.
Also, if you were really a regular user of this site you'd know that I've been here a heck a lot longer than 1 month.
[ + ] Monica
[ - ] Monica 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 19:24:40 ago (+1/-0)
You sure as hell typed it though:
"This is the sole assignment of these agents, to keep the protests non-violent and law-abiding." -AntiPostmodernist
I've only had these types of argument when talking with jews. "I never said that".... when it's obvious they did say that. Fucking gas lighting faggot jew fbi commie bastard.
[ + ] AntiPostmodernist
[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 19:26:27 ago (+1/-0)
The individual agents sent into the "far right" protest events.
[ + ] AntiPostmodernist
[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 30, 2022 18:15:10 ago (+1/-0)
Hence the use of the word "these" in the quoted sentence.
I'm not saying that there aren't other agents from the same agencies who are serving the purpose of stirring up violence or lawbreaking, they definitely have such agents out there.
But they weren't the ones these documents that I'm referencing were talking about.
It seems that they have some influence over the violence and lawfulness of an event, and that they will make it more violent and unlawful or more peaceful and lawful depending upon the interests of their bosses.
It's not an either or thing, they don't either favor peace and law or favor violence and criminality, they will work in the interest of producing one or the other depending upon the circumstances.
Stop making false assumptions and putting words in my mouth that I've never said.
You clearly have no idea who I am.
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[ - ] thoughtcryme 2 points 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 14:58:58 ago (+2/-0)
Everyone: "whooaaa... thats deep"
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[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 3 points 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 18:57:25 ago (+3/-0)*
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[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 10:48:27 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] SumerBreeze 2 points 2.5 yearsOct 29, 2022 12:55:03 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] Doglegwarrior 2 points 2.5 yearsOct 30, 2022 00:14:41 ago (+2/-0)
Another thing truml did nothing about
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[ - ] 2017Fallout 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 30, 2022 04:27:35 ago (+1/-0)
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