Did you find it to be sound theory? I mean did he seem to be consistent with what is known? I hear he is a eurasian nationalist meaning he is trying to cobble together an ethnic group out of slavs, turkic types, caucasus, and various chinky or chink adjacent people . To me clearly europeans like Britons and Frenchmen are a better fit to Russians than the fucking Tuvans. And some of these non-white groups are very violent. Did you read any of this book?
Dugin isn't about mixing of peoples. He is explicitly opposed to that and even sees the ethnos as the centerpiece of politics. His proposed Eurasian Empire would create a new power bloc to help defend Russia from America, liberalism, and America's European allies. Doesn't matter much if Russians have more in common with Britons than Tuvans if Britain helps kill Russian soldiers in Ukraine. Nazi Germany had more in common with France than Japan too.
Where I found it a bit much was actually getting all of these countries he wants to join it. But it is a good manual from which to assess necessary progress. Essentially Russia's aims would be achieved here by breaking up the United States. That looks increasingly plausible. But his empire would be able to aid Western dissidents more effectively or challenge Western governments.
In practice his ideas are being implemented in effect. And even includes China more I think in some ways than he anticipated.
Does he have any novel economic model? Just “be more tradiionalist” and the liberal west sucks? I mean it does, but Russia will run into the same problems America has. Imperialism and an overly powerful government will lead to corruption. They’re gonna live off of oil and gas? That leads to corruption, economic unaccountability. It just sounds like Soviet Union 2.0
It's fair to say that like many far right nationalists, particularly in Europe, Dugin is some kind of welfare socialist. But I haven't noticed any in depth enunciation of an economic program. Putin's more capitalist approach is something Dugin is critical of. Maybe his biggest issue with Putin in fact.
I would not say the Eurasian Empire would be the Soviet Union 2.0. Maybe superficially. But then you could also compare it to the Russian Empire. It'd be much more powerful than either and constituent states would be less subordinate to Moscow.
I think the problem with your corruption analysis is that Dugin doesn't see wealth as a virtue - and that money has more capacity for corruption than most anything.
Definitely something to be said for being poor. The post-civil war South was less of an immigration destination. A big reason its Anglo core didn't get swamped like the North did.
That is so fucking retarded. The South lost because their economy depended almosy entirely on cotton exports. When the North used it's high GDP ship manufacturing complex that it had built, funded by the trade of slaves to the South, to blockade the South, Britain shifted it's cotton demand to India. Low GDP might prevent immigration but low GDP means you will lose the fucking wars waged against you. Now look at the demograohics 150 years later. Can you actually justify a temporary lag in immigration for permanently yielding your soverignty to your economically superior enemies? You once again prove you are retarded as fucking hell.
There was even a Civil War at all because of North-South population imbalances caused by immigration, which fueled Northern GDP in its factory economy. The South wanted out because they knew they'd be outvoted forever.
And the Union was able to win due in no small part to manpower advantages caused by immigration. The Union army, in contrast to the Confederate army, was made up of foreigners, in many cases foreigners that couldn't speak English, to the tune of something approaching 50%. The Union army also outnumbered the Confederate army like 2-1. The Union also had a larger population than the Confederacy.
STILL the Confederacy almost won the war. And could have had it had a break or two. When you speak of sovereignty you also need to think of the Irish taking over Boston, a historically Protestant town. Or just not seeing population replacement as the North did generally. It went from Yankees to a mishmash of micks, wops, Croats, and assorted other peoples - particularly after the Civil War. And now what does it look like?
You have a point though. Then again, by the same token Mexicans can help the US military. They provide younger recruits to draw on. And of course increase GDP. But is this really the proper standard to aspire to?
In the nuclear age you also don't necessarily need a high GDP. Look at North Korea. They have a deterrent the Confederacy didn't have. I'll also say that the diversity fueled high GDP of the US is fanning the flames of disunion. Flames assisted by Russian intelligence - Russia being an economy the size of California. Russia is liable to win without a shot being fired.
Where is the contradiction? Your last post was muh GDP - as if I need a big factory based army in the nuclear age to deter military aggression. You're out of date. But this post? Just a nothingburger.
The immigration in question was to the Westerly lying states, which would form new state governments. The US government had left the question of what kind of state government it would be up to that newly formed state. The North wanted to pump in European immigrants that the banks would mortgage the land to, the South wanted more cotton plantations. The war was fought over the potential GDP growth.The Missouri Compromise made it physically impossible to transport slaves to the newly formed states. These new states would send new Senators and Representatives to the federal government that would represent whatever State sponsored economic strategy established itself there first. You are a retard that knows nothing of history. Go kill yourself for that alone.
The nuclear era changed everything but North Korea only exists because China fought us in the Korean war and then gave them nukes as a buffer against us. Once again you are a fucking retard.
Your argument is that being poor is a winning strategy. You post some retarded communist manifesto from wikipedia that your superviser told you about at the water cooler.You are a retarded kike faggot that knows absolutely nothing. The only solution is for all of you kikes to kill yourselves.
Yes, because a guy that puts himself in the position to call me retarded thinks Dugin is a commie.
What a dolt.
And what's all this talk of immigration to western states? There are Italians in New Jersey and Rhode Island you nimrod. These were already well populated places. It wasn't friggin Minnesota.
And my point stands. You don't need a high GDP and large factory based army to deter military aggression. You just need the bomb. And very poor countries, as illustrated by North Korea, can get it. I'm a little puzzled about your claim China gave North Korea the bomb too. First I've heard that. Can you prove it? I doubt it - and a close attention to the facts is obviously not your strong suit as we have already seen.
Immigration to Western lying states, as in the westward colonization of America? You don't fucking understand this? How the fuck is someone as stupid as you even alive?
North Korea doesn't use nuclear weapons as a deterrent. They use the threat of China's re-entry into the war as the detterent. Their economy is so bad that they can't even develop a threatening delivery mechanism for a nuclear payload. But why would I expect a retarded fucking communist faggot that doesn't understand a single fact about history to get this.
Your argument is retarded because you are retarded. Prove right now why you shouldn't immediately kill yourself.
And your fucking gay fucking idol Dugin is obviously a commie just like you, advocating poverty to justify Russia's insanely inept inability to maintain a functioning economy.
Yeah. There WAS westward migration of Europeans. In places like Minnesota. You had a bunch of Swedes go there for example. Still has FUCK ALL to do with various Catholic groups taking over cities north of the Mason-Dixon line further east in more established population centers.
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Wikifagia.???
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Dugin isn't about mixing of peoples. He is explicitly opposed to that and even sees the ethnos as the centerpiece of politics. His proposed Eurasian Empire would create a new power bloc to help defend Russia from America, liberalism, and America's European allies. Doesn't matter much if Russians have more in common with Britons than Tuvans if Britain helps kill Russian soldiers in Ukraine. Nazi Germany had more in common with France than Japan too.
Where I found it a bit much was actually getting all of these countries he wants to join it. But it is a good manual from which to assess necessary progress. Essentially Russia's aims would be achieved here by breaking up the United States. That looks increasingly plausible. But his empire would be able to aid Western dissidents more effectively or challenge Western governments.
In practice his ideas are being implemented in effect. And even includes China more I think in some ways than he anticipated.
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I would not say the Eurasian Empire would be the Soviet Union 2.0. Maybe superficially. But then you could also compare it to the Russian Empire. It'd be much more powerful than either and constituent states would be less subordinate to Moscow.
I think the problem with your corruption analysis is that Dugin doesn't see wealth as a virtue - and that money has more capacity for corruption than most anything.
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https://agdugintranslate.gitbook.io/foundations-of-geopolitics/
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There was even a Civil War at all because of North-South population imbalances caused by immigration, which fueled Northern GDP in its factory economy. The South wanted out because they knew they'd be outvoted forever.
And the Union was able to win due in no small part to manpower advantages caused by immigration. The Union army, in contrast to the Confederate army, was made up of foreigners, in many cases foreigners that couldn't speak English, to the tune of something approaching 50%. The Union army also outnumbered the Confederate army like 2-1. The Union also had a larger population than the Confederacy.
STILL the Confederacy almost won the war. And could have had it had a break or two. When you speak of sovereignty you also need to think of the Irish taking over Boston, a historically Protestant town. Or just not seeing population replacement as the North did generally. It went from Yankees to a mishmash of micks, wops, Croats, and assorted other peoples - particularly after the Civil War. And now what does it look like?
You have a point though. Then again, by the same token Mexicans can help the US military. They provide younger recruits to draw on. And of course increase GDP. But is this really the proper standard to aspire to?
In the nuclear age you also don't necessarily need a high GDP. Look at North Korea. They have a deterrent the Confederacy didn't have. I'll also say that the diversity fueled high GDP of the US is fanning the flames of disunion. Flames assisted by Russian intelligence - Russia being an economy the size of California. Russia is liable to win without a shot being fired.
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[ + ] dalai_llama
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The nuclear era changed everything but North Korea only exists because China fought us in the Korean war and then gave them nukes as a buffer against us. Once again you are a fucking retard.
Your argument is that being poor is a winning strategy. You post some retarded communist manifesto from wikipedia that your superviser told you about at the water cooler.You are a retarded kike faggot that knows absolutely nothing. The only solution is for all of you kikes to kill yourselves.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
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LOL.
Yes, because a guy that puts himself in the position to call me retarded thinks Dugin is a commie.
What a dolt.
And what's all this talk of immigration to western states? There are Italians in New Jersey and Rhode Island you nimrod. These were already well populated places. It wasn't friggin Minnesota.
And my point stands. You don't need a high GDP and large factory based army to deter military aggression. You just need the bomb. And very poor countries, as illustrated by North Korea, can get it. I'm a little puzzled about your claim China gave North Korea the bomb too. First I've heard that. Can you prove it? I doubt it - and a close attention to the facts is obviously not your strong suit as we have already seen.
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[ - ] dalai_llama 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 2, 2022 23:47:46 ago (+1/-0)
North Korea doesn't use nuclear weapons as a deterrent. They use the threat of China's re-entry into the war as the detterent. Their economy is so bad that they can't even develop a threatening delivery mechanism for a nuclear payload. But why would I expect a retarded fucking communist faggot that doesn't understand a single fact about history to get this.
Your argument is retarded because you are retarded. Prove right now why you shouldn't immediately kill yourself.
And your fucking gay fucking idol Dugin is obviously a commie just like you, advocating poverty to justify Russia's insanely inept inability to maintain a functioning economy.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -1 points 2.4 yearsDec 2, 2022 23:59:49 ago (+0/-1)
North Korea doesn't use nukes as a deterrent?
I think I'm done wasting time with you.