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we didnt steal this land. WE CONQUERED IT!`

submitted by con77 to WhitePeopleThings 2.4 yearsDec 5, 2022 17:58:17 ago (+29/-0)     (u.smutty.horse)

https://u.smutty.horse/mkoyaexwrxa.mp4



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[ - ] HughBriss 5 points 2.4 yearsDec 5, 2022 18:41:27 ago (+5/-0)

For those that don't know, this is a short clip from the 2007 TV movie "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", which is distantly based on the 1970 book of the same name. The book is quasi-factual (and very biased against the White man), whereas the movie is somewhat fictional based on real events.

I was never a libtard, but I used to have some left of center beliefs, which I did when I saw that movies in the late 2000s. At the time I was very sympathetic to Indians, thinking they were victims in a terrible war of conquest perpetrated by the White. I remember watching this movie and thinking I might be very wrong in that perspective if what Col. Nelson Miles said was accurate. I now lean closer to regarding them as prairie niggers. All of the Indians I've ever knows (and I've known quite a number) never planned ahead, blamed the White man for everything, and had no sense of accountability.

This is a longer version of the exchange:

Sitting Bull: You must take them out of our lands.
Col. Nelson Miles: What precisely are your lands?
Sitting Bull: These are the where my people lived before you whites first came.
Col. Nelson Miles: I don't understand. We whites were not your first enemies. Why don't you demand back the land in Minnesota where the Chippewa and others forced you from years before?
Sitting Bull: The Black Hills are a sacred given to my people by Wakan Tanka.
Col. Nelson Miles: How very convenient to cloak your claims in spiritualism. And what would you say to the Mormons and others who believe that their God has given to them Indian lands in the West?
Sitting Bull: I would say they should listen to Wakan Tanka.
Col. Nelson Miles: No matter what your legends say, you didn't sprout from the plains like the spring grasses. And you didn't coalesce out of the ether. You came out of the Minnesota woodlands armed to the teeth and set upon your fellow man. You massacred the Kiowa, the Omaha, the Ponca, the Oto and the Pawnee without mercy. And yet you claim the Black Hills as a private preserve bequeathed to you by the Great Spirit.
Sitting Bull: And who gave us the guns and powder to kill our enemies? And who traded weapons to the Chippewa and others who drove us from our home?
Col. Nelson Miles: Chief Sitting Bull, the proposition that you were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man is the most fanciful legend of all. You were killing each other for hundreds of moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent. You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands, just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a cause.
Sitting Bull: This is your story of my people!
Col. Nelson Miles: This is the truth, not legend. Crazy Horse has surrendered... with his entire band. And by his surrender, he says to you and your people that you are defeated. And by ceding the Black Hills to us, so say Red Cloud and the other chiefs, who demand that you end this war and take your place on the reservation.
Sitting Bull: Red Cloud is no longer a chief. He is a woman you have mounted and had your way with. Do not speak to me of Red Cloud!

[ - ] drhitler 3 points 2.4 yearsDec 6, 2022 02:04:32 ago (+3/-0)

settlers are the ones who made places worth immigrating too

[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 7, 2022 00:43:01 ago (+0/-0)

We also walked into empty lands, especially in north America

[ - ] gaybeeye -2 points 2.4 yearsDec 5, 2022 18:07:59 ago (+0/-2)