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(repost) Look at the evil around you. Your government might as well be run by the devil incarnate. To those who say no one will do anything, let me explain why

submitted by prototype to USPolitics 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 00:27:34 ago (+23/-0)     (USPolitics)

Reposted because the system screwed the text up and wouldn't show it for some reason.

Recently came across yet another 'nothing is happening because white men bad' post by some sycophantic coward. And it is about time the situation is explained for those that are prone to accept such nonsense.

First the comment:

We got a severe fucking problem with White men, they don't have any balls anymore

Now let me explain to you what we are actually going through as a nation, and an ethnic group (culture and race):

Whats lacking is organization (constantly infiltrated, constantly shut down), leadership (subverted, bribed, or killed), and bankrolling for recruiting , propaganda, and equipment (all of it tracked and shut down before getting off the ground).

What is happening is you're living under an outright murderous dictatorship absolutely and vehemently masquerading, 24/7, as anything except exactly what it is. One that that has been highly effective at subverting, shutting down, or destroying any resistances or separatist movements from their very inception.

I estimate that given some initial successes and backing, a populist or militant resistance movement in the u.s. would garner the support of between 1-4% of the populace, with 0.5-1% actively participating for some amount of time ranging from months, up to a protracted duration of four or more years at the extreme.

Based on the model, my conclusion is nothings happening because almost no one out there has the resources, organization, leadership, or legal cover to do anything. Go look up how guerilla movements operate, they always have some support from middle class professionals providing all sorts of resources, backing, legal theory, and services.

In short, it's a very complex problem mostly solved by having a fuckton of money, and the backing of those factions in the system that are unhappy with it--long enough to gather said war chest.

Which probably won't happen because one of the biggest targets of surveillance in the current system, is its own people running the system--precisely for this very reason, that they are one of the biggest achilles heels of any state.

It's so bad I'd even go so far as to say we are likely living in a system worse than what north korea or the soviets ran. How do I know this? I don't. But nothing, and I mean, exactly nothing thats said on the u.s. intelligence-sponsored media can be trusted, at all anymore. What I can say is they have a history, a pattern of behavior so reliable you could set a clock to it, of accusing other nations of all the very practices that the u.s. and the west have been caught engaging in--

Policies that we accuse other nations of all the time, up to and including death camps. yes i'd do so far as to say the u.s. is so far gone, so predictable in its projections, that right here now, at this very moment, there are death camps operating on u.s. soil.
Camps where we kill hundreds or thousands of u.s. citizens, or more, every year. I would not hesitate, hyperbolic as all this is, to suggest that in every single news room, board room, and major corporation there is one or more employees
of the regime's intelligence and politburo, be it the cia, fbi, dhs, cdc, or other, with carte blanche on any final decisions, like a de facto shadow government. I wouldn't hesitate to suggest that this government has an active program, of a few thousands officers, spread out across thirty or so agencies, vigorously engaged in assassinations of blacklisted individuals and their families--those who go against the regime, or who the regime finds problematic. I would go so far as to suggest that most morticians in major cities are under the jurisdiction or contract of the intelligence agencies or secret police, to cover up these murders committed by the regime.

Lastly I would venture to say there are programs to send people out into the public, into all levels of private and public life, all spheres, all interests, all industries, all communities, tens of thousands of them (which is a paltry fucking number) paid as contractors, whose sole job is disruption of public life, disruption of political activism, bribery, blackmail, coercion, spying, subversion, and the break up of any and all political spirits and organized economic activities of the public (unions, strikes, boycotts, etc).

You are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, a hybrid that pulls its murderous methods straight from bolshevik marxism fused with corporate socialism, the merger of public and private interests.

How would you know if this wasn't the case?

you wouldn't. Your government, is, for all intents and purposes, completely opaque and unaccountable. Any accountability you see could be very carefully orchestrated media propaganda.

We should have never allowed military intelligence to exist, let alone run operations on u.s. and western soil.

Your government is run by the devil incarnate.


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[ - ] prototype [op] 8 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 00:28:35 ago (+9/-1)*

edit: system ate the body of the text again, so I'm once again posting it as a comment.

whats lacking is organization (constantly infiltrated, constantly shut down), leadership (subverted, bribed, or killed), and bankrolling for recruiting , propaganda, and equipment (all of it tracked and shut down before getting off the ground).

What is happening is you're living under an outright murderous dictatorship absolutely and vehemently masquerading, 24/7, as anything except exactly what it is. One that that has been highly effective at subverting, shutting down, or destroying any resistances or separatist movements from their very inception.

I estimate that given some initial successes and backing, a populist or militant resistance movement in the u.s. would garner the support of between 1-4% of the populace, with 0.5-1% actively participating for some amount of time ranging from months, up to a protracted duration of four or more years at the extreme.

Based on the model, my conclusion is nothings happening because almost no one out there has the resources, organization, leadership, or legal cover to do anything. Go look up how guerilla movements operate, they always have some support from middle class professionals providing all sorts of resources, backing, legal theory, and services.

In short, it's a very complex problem mostly solved by having a fuckton of money, and the backing of those factions in the system that are unhappy with it--long enough to gather said war chest.

Which probably won't happen because one of the biggest targets of surveillance in the current system, is its own people running the system--precisely for this very reason, that they are one of the biggest achilles heels of any state.

It's so bad I'd even go so far as to say we are likely living in a system worse than what north korea or the soviets ran. How do I know this? I don't. But nothing, and I mean, exactly nothing thats said on the u.s. intelligence-sponsored media can be trusted, at all anymore. What I can say is they have a history, a pattern of behavior so reliable you could set a clock to it, of accusing other nations of all the very practices that the u.s. and the west have been caught engaging in--

Policies that we accuse other nations of all the time, up to and including death camps. yes I'd go so far as to say the u.s. is so far gone, so predictable in its projections, that right here now, at this very moment, there are death camps operating on u.s. soil.
Camps where we kill hundreds or thousands of u.s. citizens, or more, every year. I would not hesitate, hyperbolic as all this is, to suggest that in every single news room, board room, and major corporation there is one or more employees
of the regime's intelligence and politburo, be it the cia, fbi, dhs, cdc, or other, with carte blanche on any final decisions, like a de facto shadow government. I wouldn't hesitate to suggest that this government has an active program, of a few thousands officers, spread out across thirty or so agencies, vigorously engaged in assassinations of blacklisted individuals and their families--those who go against the regime, or who the regime finds problematic. I would go so far as to suggest that most morticians in major cities are under the jurisdiction or contract of the intelligence agencies or secret police, to cover up these murders committed by the regime.

Lastly I would venture to say there are programs to send people out into the public, into all levels of private and public life, all spheres, all interests, all industries, all communities, tens of thousands of them (which is a paltry fucking number) paid as contractors, whose sole job is disruption of public life, disruption of political activism, bribery, blackmail, coercion, spying, subversion, and the break up of any and all political spirits and organized economic activities of the public (unions, strikes, boycotts, etc).

You are living under a totalitarian dictatorship, a hybrid that pulls its murderous methods straight from bolshevik marxism fused with corporate socialism, the merger of public and private interests.

How would you know if this wasn't the case?

you wouldn't. Your government, is, for all intents and purposes, completely opaque and unaccountable. Any accountability you see could be very carefully orchestrated media propaganda.

We should have never allowed military intelligence to exist, let alone run operations on u.s. and western soil.

Your government is run by the devil incarnate.

edit: disclaimer - not encouraging terrorism or lawlessness.

[ - ] TheYiddler 2 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 08:41:47 ago (+2/-0)

Re death camps: Chicago's black site was a story for a little while. Death camps totally exist.

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 08:46:46 ago (+1/-0)

Re death camps: Chicago's black site was a story for a little while. Death camps totally exist.

I'd completely forgot about the chicago blacksites. Thank you.

[ - ] boekanier 1 point 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 00:57:54 ago (+1/-0)

not only the government is run by the devil incarnate, the whole world is, except for some enlightened ones, of course

[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 11:11:37 ago (+1/-0)*

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[ - ] anrach 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 12:44:16 ago (+0/-0)

Right, and that's an epidemic problem among Whites. So is there really any point in the brave sacrificing themselves for people who will condemn them, or is there nothing to be done until worsening circumstances harden a larger proportion of Whites?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 13:25:36 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] anrach 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 15:34:01 ago (+0/-0)

Hey man, I'm not stopping you. I'm not saying you're wrong for wanting to fight... I'm just saying: Will that really do the job under these circumstances? Are we really comparable to the Taliban, who were previously armed & trained by the U.S. gov, and accustomed to brutal living (unlike us soft Westerners), and were actually being shot at by their oppressors and so had nothing to lose? I would suggest that your estimate of how many White American men are ready and willing is too generous. Consider that it might be wiser for the few brave men to become the keepers of the Whites who are sensible enough to flee from 'diversity', and have as many children as possible. But hey who knows... Maybe WWIII will happen soon and the landscape will shift dramatically.

P.S. Your holier-than-thou, blame game attitude is highly suspect.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 16:20:18 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] anrach 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 19:40:00 ago (+0/-0)*

Oh ok. I didn't realize you are the "sycophantic coward" in question. I don't really keep current on board drama.

Your position doesn't seem coherent. If you really believe what you're saying, then what are you doing here running your mouth? Shouldn't you be out there fighting the good fight? It seems to me that you're sitting here waiting for something, just like the rest of us.

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 14:02:45 ago (+0/-0)

White people have no problem dying passively, those casualties don't bother you at all

Angry jew imagines he can read my mind. Stay mad jew.

Every single White kid I saw growing up besides myself got the shit beat out of them by nigger bullies and just lay on the ground while they get kicked and stomped and never tried to fight back.

Angry jew imagines he can see the past and has no clue about how badly more than a few fucked around and found out.

I was the only one I saw that was brave and mean enough to start punching back,

After projecting his cowardice, angry jew lies about being the only brave one.

You're simply the adult versions of those kids, aspie overthinkers raised by your mothers and daddy was a pussycat. Consequently, you think everything in war is about techniques and strategy but it isn't.

Angry jew projects how he was raised.

Stay angry jew.

My post must have frightened you. I'm glad it did. Be afraid.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 14:07:08 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 4, 2023 01:04:12 ago (+0/-0)*

You wish you could get angry. Again, no balls. YOU are a jewish coward.

Nope. When you finally look in the mirror, you'll realize the person you've been talking about all this time is yourself.

Accept it. You'll never have the balls like me unless you first accept that you are disposable and a small bit piece in a war.

If pain is fear leaving the body, you seem to be experiencing a lot of it. Embrace it and embrace natures god, which is death. It'll make you strong.

We worship blood, the protection of it, the sanctity of it, the shedding of it.

While you worship your own ego, which is mortal. It's why you're afraid and won't admit it.

When the flesh is gone, only the bone and the skull mask remains. When the name is gone only the infamy remains. When the individual is gone, only the blood of the nation remains.

And of all the very few people in the world that accept this faith, this guiding ethos, I'm one of the few that is a pacifist.

Because I do not fear loss, I embrace it. Every martyr, cannon hinnant, jake gardener, jessica doty whitaker, ebba, all of them, are inspirations to our people and to the struggle.

Get on my level or walk away.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 4, 2023 17:38:29 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 5, 2023 07:09:48 ago (+0/-0)

Blah blah blah, you do fear loss and you have no balls; t

Nope.

Stay mad kike. Stay afraid.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 08:30:03 ago (+1/-1)

Yeah I totally agree. And they achieved this through trickery. And right now there is no rational move to make.

Those that say white right wing patriots should rise up but they are all cowards are being babyish. No immediate opportunity has arisen to fight back effectively so the childish blackpillers just give up because the knights in shining armor didnt immediately rescue them from clown world.

There will be an opportunity. Things will not stay like this forever.

This kike regime is built on lawlessness and terrorism. People are starting to wake up to that.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 11:29:17 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] uvulectomy 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 12:09:47 ago (+0/-0)

But nothing, and I mean, exactly nothing thats said on the u.s. intelligence-sponsored media can be trusted, at all anymore.

And that in and of itself is a sign of how far gone things are. Wasn't it some kike who said (paraphrasing), "We will know our subversion is complete when the average citizen no longer trusts anything they see or hear"?

[ - ] Aze -1 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 09:39:06 ago (+0/-1)

Well brother I think you hit the nail on the head with all of this.

Well said. Now, what do we do to brake it?

[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 07:28:15 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 07:51:02 ago (+1/-0)*

A natural grass roots movement that is decentralized but with common goals would be the way resistance could manifest.

It is one way but thats part of the reason for all the spies. Their essential job, as contractors, is to approach people, often by "happenstance" or apparent "accident". They keep their ears to the ground and the minute anything seems to be happening, thats the moment you have a mole.

You're right though, that ideas are a powerful tool. They're more like the soil on which you may establish the foundation of a movement. By themselves ideas do nothing except make movements possible.

The other issue is hopium leadership. Fusion centers and NGOs identify trends in regional populations and front run those trends before they become conscious movements, creating astroturf 'organic' candidates for leadership.
Thats what all the alt-right grifters are about. More controlled opposition not for existing movements, but to suck the air out of any potential future movements. Essentially they're sappers lying in wait.

Some of them are obvious, like that one troll-looking dude whose eyes are too close together, you know the one making barn-storming videos where he makes a speech at a podium and stupid shit like that. Others are more subtle, like a guy who could be vaguely greek, or italian, with greasy black hair, and too much of a tan, not being immediately shut down despite his antics. The first rule is and must be, if they're allowed to speak, and they're getting any traction at all (instead of say, being killed in mysterious accidents) then they're probably not real. Because if they were real they'd be dead.

Effective, non-controlled dissidents, are locked up, not for these piddly six month or year long charges, but for years, or they end up dead. If pfizer can have a researcher killed, and have two gun shots to the back of the head ruled a 'suicide' (some major city coroners are part of a program where they're contracted by intelligence agencies to cover up murders), and a railroad can have a plane full of scientific investigators conveniently die in a plane crash, then theres exactly zero reason that anyone effective against the system wouldn't be murdered.

If they're on air in any way shape or form they're the enemy in disguise. And no amount of "I spent five years in lock up", or "my youtube account was hijacked but THANKS TO ALL YOUR AMAAZING SUPPORT FOLKS I now have an alternative outlet!" (one thats not conveniently cut right off from the credit card networks or has their domain seized)--no amount of comeback stories is going to change that rule.

Voting and free speech and freedom of association and the right to due process and so much more are all outright dead. What we see in any individual examples are a farce to keep us assuming the rule of law still exists rather than covert and widespread brutal suppression.

We live in an opaque dictatorship. A natural grassroots movement is not going to become effective unless it becomes militant.

Thankfully I'm 100% for peaceful and lawful means and transfer of power, because otherwise the national situation would to any reasonable man have an awful resemblance to being backed into a corner with no other means of redressing the growing grievances following from the two-tiered justice system, unequal enforcement of the law, complete lawlessness by one half of the country histrionically calling for their political opponents and their families to be deathcamped/raped/murdered/burned alive/broken up/confiscated, and rapidly degrading status of our rights, liberties and very way of life, all paraded and finger wagged by a completely out of control and utterly delegitimized media apparatus that has continuously encouraged outright mob violence for years on end against millions of americans while vehemently denying this very behavior as if we're all stupid and don't see whats going on. The arrogance of it is insulting and outraging.

Yep, I'm real glad I'm a pacifist.

Because if I were half the extremist that some bubble-wrapped tax-payer funded soy sipping vitriolic lunatic liberal surely claims I am in their high-paid make-work reports about extremism to nazi secret police, there would already be a whole fuckton of dead people to pay for the shit I've seen my country and countless good people go through--all of them, like the J6, like jessica doty whitaker, like jake gardner, like cannon hinnant, without an ounce of meaningful restorative justice being done other than the lip service paid by the traitors in the RNC badly-in-need-of-a-trial-and-capital-punishment while they do nothing in practice to defend us. a blatant scheme to deny us any representation by the wordiest useless windbag trash.

Yep, I'm real glad I'm a pacifist. Because if I wasn't, if I was an extremist, like so many millions of american have been labelled, like so many millions grievously aggrieved at being falsely labelled, and wildly mistreated, without recourse or recompense, it'd be rope rope ROPE, all fucking day, for everyone who had engaged in this campaign of demonization, defamation, censorship, medical coercion, discrimination, outright reverse racism, religious suppression during covid, and terrorism against us.

God bless pacifism.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 08:17:25 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Rawrination 0 points 1.3 yearsJul 18, 2023 18:21:29 ago (+0/-0)

That’s exactly what Trump was/is.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 1.7 yearsMar 4, 2023 17:53:27 ago (+0/-1)*

You don't need resources, organization, or all that. You basically need one guy with balls who's mobile and can live off the land or very minimally who is not tied down by prior commitments willing to rove through the land burning shit down. Or otherwise wreaking havoc in a way where it isn't obvious he'll get caught. And it involves knowing it starts with you. Not some other guy, not waiting on another guy to do it. Once this starts there will be others. Copycats.

To do this involves conceptualizing it though, discussing it, the possibilities. The prep in other words. No one here does this with any seriousness. Other than me of course.

'No one is going to do anything' of course is just another variation on the do nothing psyop (in fact people ARE doing stuff - they sometimes get caught before they can execute attacks). Right up there with preaching non-violence and accusing anyone that suggests fighting back of being a fed. The first principle, duh, of counterterrorism is to prevent criminal acts and terrorist attacks. Anything that keeps us sitting on our asses until we drop dead sometime in the next decade is a win for fedgov. And anyone promoting the do nothing is either a cop or compliant with their wishes. Simple as.

https://files.catbox.moe/anz5we.mp4

You could call Franklin a model lone wolf in many ways. An, ahem, prototype...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Paul_Franklin

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 5, 2023 07:16:40 ago (+0/-0)*

You could call Franklin a model lone wolf in many ways. An, ahem, prototype...

Nope. Not a terrorist, or lone wolf, never have been never will be. I don't appreciate the insinuation or slander.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 1.7 yearsMar 4, 2023 18:29:05 ago (+0/-1)*

In keeping with my post above I'll also submit this as an image that should be near and dear to our hearts.

https://s2.discussions.app/v1/api/upload/file/1647824482735.jpeg

The hobo, the tramp, the bum. Even the homeless man. They all personify a rejection of bourgeois, materialist values of prioritizing a normie lifestyle of acquiring shit. That of the pirate is an archetype worth aspiring to as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo

Honestly, it's not that hard. And unnecessarily complicating it with why it can't be done because of stuff like muh organization is - voila! another do nothing psyop... as my Siege link in my last post asks: what is a group?

For that matter it is hard to take anyone seriously in this stuff that hasn't read Siege. It's hard to take people that don't make reading a priority seriously, period - but especially if they venture into the subject of revolutionary politics and haven't read Siege.

Full text online:

https://archive.is/S9FtA

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 10:21:21 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 14:03:59 ago (+0/-0)

10 pages of drivel on why you're a egghead chickendick with a tiny peen.

Nope. Sure does feel good hitting a nerve though.

I enjoy the feel of you glowwie niggers and your fear of us.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 14:09:24 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 5, 2023 07:24:53 ago (+0/-0)

You're the glowie that was triggered

Nope, and nope.

Funny thing is you wrecked yourself on this one. I didn't even mention any names because I wasn't even paying attention to who wrote the original comment. You just came out of the woodwork like a cockroach fleeing where no one was pursuing.

Which tells me the original comment you and yours wrote is some sort of narrative push at ye olde IO funnel.
And the way you're obsessively seething over it is severely autistic, the kind that you see with hasidic yids.

Go take your meds schlomo, and banish the schizophrenic persecution demons that apparently live 24/7 rent free in the heads of your whole race. No one is after you.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 02:53:12 ago (+0/-0)

The issue is that most of these groups still think in the "old ways" and refuse to adapt and learn the strategies from the jews that run the US, and much of the rest of the world.
They see the US government genociding the European people and think the US government needs to be completely destroyed right now to save them. The US government wants this reaction as it is physically impossible to do for the reasons you described.
That being said, it is untrue that the US government needs to die right now to save the European people. By attacking Europeans, the US government is attacking the main body and function of the nation. In other words, they are destroying their own power structure by attacking us, and by extension destroying themselves. This is commonly understood to be the intentional and controlled destruction of the US that you see so many likeminded people talking about. This creates an interesting dynamic where all that needs to be done is to physically protect Europeans that will accept your protection, and allow the US government to continue weakening itself. In time you will end up with a nation from the power that the US has thrown away, and the US will end up a new middle east ready to be wiped off the map.

I'm fairly tired so my explanation isn't the best, but I'll try to lay out a basic battle plan that is easily defensible.
From what I can see the current Achilles heel of the US government is the criminal gangs and cartels. They are directly colluding with the US government, and through their dealings, have enough blackmail to control local politicians either directly or indirectly. If an openly European nationalist group where to openly dedicate themselves to wiping said criminal groups out of the country, they would gain public support. They would gain substantial political blackmail which can be used to delay interference from the government. Lastly they would gain extremely valuable military combat experience.

Once this group has made a name for itself and is a couple thousand strong, it expands to directly protect Europeans from government overreach so long as they accept that protection and provide to the group. To put it simply, you are taking those that the US government has attacked, removing them from the US power structure, and adding them to yours.
Not everyone that wants protection will agree with the groups ideology, this is not an issue. The group will be comprised of two groups, an ideologically pure group which is in charge of the decision making of the group, and an ideologically impure group that wants the group's protection but does not fully agree or not completely disagree to the European nationalist ideology. In other words, normies go into the second group.
The entire point of this second group is to ensure a large volume of producing Europeans end up under the control of the group, thereby increasing the groups power without compromising it.

Sections of the US government will eventually attack in one form or another. This may be as minor as some fuckheads at the burau of agriculture saying "we need to kill all your chickens because people might die from bird flu" to a full on raid by the FBI. In all cases, only that section of the US government should be smacked with a declaration of war, and then be wiped out in those most cataclysmically brutal manner possible. The entire gimick is taking a page out of the jews book by gaining favorable optics by forcing the US government to strike the first blow which will be prepared for, and to go the route of defeating them in detail, a single department if far easier to beat than an entire state or federal government. Likewise, the brutality is meant to give the rest of the government pause and second guess if it's worth attacking the group.

TLDR: The solution to most of the problems is for a European nationalist group to say it's only protecting the European people, and stopping criminal gangs. While in reality stealing power from the US government. Or as you put it, the group says they are everything except that which they are, i.e. a revolutionary group.

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 07:31:54 ago (+0/-0)

The US government wants this reaction as it is physically impossible to do for the reasons you described.

It's nearly physically impossible with the traditional methods.
This doesn't mean it is universally impossible.

and the US will end up a new middle east ready to be wiped off the map.

This is an interesting analogy actually, which at first
seems like a subtle distinction from the common trope
of balkanization--but actually it seems like a rather
profound distinction once examined.

It explains why the regime wants to do away with moderate
coreligionists in preference to fundamentalism, which, like
the shia vs sunni divide, or isis vs al queda, has been demonstrated
to be easier to control.

Or as you put it, the group says they are everything except that which they are, i.e. a revolutionary group.

Actually this elides well into the pendulum meme.
The current configuration of interlocking national
intelligence agencies is the inheritor of the legacy
that followed from the shutdown/takeover of the mafias
and mob rackets.
If it is true that any system taken to an extreme eventually
swings back to its opposite, then in the coming years
we should see the dissolution of federal and continental
intelligence agencies in preference to bottom up localism.

This proton-explaination makes way more sense in light of
the fact that the FBI and other agencies are branching
out and building more and more field offices. The explanation
is that they're trying to front run the localist trend.

It suggests they may have significant issues retaining
the loyalty and cooperation of their agencies and employees
in the near-term (10-20 years). Thats too far out to
extrapolate much more about, but aligns well with the idea
that neoliberalism has 10-15 years before the west collapses
like the soviet union.

to a full on raid by the FBI.

if you're thinking a singular raid, you're thinking at the wrong
abstraction level and scope.

An organization dedicated to covertly and overtly fighting crime,
vis-a-vis vigilantism, would face broader crackdowns and
campaigns against it. Not least because the higher level
elements of the cartels are all u.s. and foreign intelligence
assets, some of them from military backgrounds like the green
berets. These are not trivial dangers and risks to confront.

But actually the approach appears sound, not from a guerilla war perspective (where you avoid giving your enemies the means or justification to utilize their full force),
but from the perspective of attacking their money. Going after their black budget,
which is a sound doctrine.

Raids on drug operations and the taking of their weapons and funds also solves
the logistics problems of any militant force. Essentially what you're saying is if
a revolutionary movement is going to be reduced to terrorists and criminals, it then
naturally follows that they should seize their logistics and territory from the very same.

It is certainly an interesting and unorthodox analysis in relation to the history of organized crime in general.

It's a fascinating take from a geopolitical perspective simply because of the universality of the approach.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 17:32:02 ago (+0/-0)*

It's a fascinating take from a geopolitical perspective simply because of the universality of the approach.
Thank you.

It's nearly physically impossible with the traditional methods. This doesn't mean it is universally impossible.
Short of nuclear war, or equivalent extreme environmental disaster, defeating the US government "right now" as in in the very immediate term, is borderline impossible. Which is what I meant but was too tired to put it into words properly.

"It explains why the regime wants to do away with moderate coreligionists in preference to fundamentalism, which, like
the shia vs sunni divide, or isis vs al queda, has been demonstrated to be easier to control."

Yes, but do keep in mind, they aren't doing this for control, that is only an excuse.
The main driving reason is a perverse desire to domesticate people into damnation, i.e. make them more like niggers.
They had control over the world by having control over the United States' industrial power, which was only possible due to European intelligence in manufacturing. They will lose control over the world as they are destroying the US's industrial power by destroying us, and there is no suitable replacement. Russia is Russia and will always be Russia. China is likely to collapse thanks to murdering half their baby girls, and whoring the other half out to other nations. Their industrial power is already stretched comically thin anyways, and does not have the capacity to control the world even in the short term.

"Actually this elides well into the pendulum meme.
The current configuration of interlocking national
intelligence agencies is the inheritor of the legacy
that followed from the shutdown/takeover of the mafias
and mob rackets.
If it is true that any system taken to an extreme eventually
swings back to its opposite, then in the coming years
we should see the dissolution of federal and continental
intelligence agencies in preference to bottom up localism.

This proton-explaination makes way more sense in light of
the fact that the FBI and other agencies are branching
out and building more and more field offices. The explanation
is that they're trying to front run the localist trend.

It suggests they may have significant issues retaining
the loyalty and cooperation of their agencies and employees
in the near-term (10-20 years). Thats too far out to
extrapolate much more about, but aligns well with the idea
that neoliberalism has 10-15 years before the west collapses
like the soviet union."
Which means right now would be a good time to start such a group, as it would be ahead of the curve, and would have considerable power during an ideal time for it.

if you're thinking a singular raid, you're thinking at the wrong
abstraction level and scope.
I was thinking more along the lines that once all else fails for them, they'll try the Waco or Ruby Ridge method of just throw an army at such a group and hope to wipe it out before public backlash turns into a full revolution.

An organization dedicated to covertly and overtly fighting crime, vis-a-vis vigilantism, would face broader crackdowns and campaigns against it.
It's pretty easy to get out of vigilantism status. A mixture of bribing local police with a cut of the money obtained through old drug war laws that give police a payout for drugs they've captured. Bribing police with a positive public outlook on the police by saying something along the lines "while the police are currently stretched too thin to directly help us, they have been instrumental in discovering information on the local cartels". Lastly using the indirect threat that you might have blackmail on the local police, after dealing with the local cartel groups.
In the event the local police won't play nice, the leader of such a group just does an interview on a local news station and says the the above quote. In the event the police deny it, the leader does another interview and says something along the lines of, "My apologies, I should have contacted the police chief directly before saying they were helping us. I assume the reason why they are denying helping us is due to a fear of repercussions from the cartel."
In the event the local police won't give the group their stamp of approval, the above quote casts them as completely cowardly, and unable to do their jobs. Further denial by them only makes their situation worse, and cements the group as the true authority in the public eye, instead of being a vigilantly group.

As for the campaigns against such a group, you just use the jews usual play. I.E. if you disagree with me you're a fascist, or in the group's case, if you disagree with me you're cartel or supporting them. Every campaign against the group can be turned against the campaigner.

"But actually the approach appears sound, not from a guerilla war perspective (where you avoid giving your enemies the means or justification to utilize their full force),
but from the perspective of attacking their money. Going after their black budget,
which is a sound doctrine.

Raids on drug operations and the taking of their weapons and funds also solves
the logistics problems of any militant force. Essentially what you're saying is if
a revolutionary movement is going to be reduced to terrorists and criminals, it then
naturally follows that they should seize their logistics and territory from the very same."

Correct, this is the other reason I suggested it. Drugs can be given to compliant local police in return for a significant payout. Weapons can be used, or resold. People freed from slavery, while providing no immediate gain with the exception of saving Europeans, provide a significant public approval boost which in turn makes it that much harder for the US government to cast said group as terrorists as the public will support that group. I'm not sure how to deal with spics that are inadvertently freed from slavery with the exception of covert threats along the lines of "leave or we won't save you again".

[ - ] oyveyo -1 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 01:47:25 ago (+0/-1)*

As long as The Beast is allowed to exist, there will be no uprising. The Beast is technology. The Beast is circuit boards on the network. Phones in everyone's pockets tracking where they go, who's around them, microphones listening to conversations and converting into text that goes into databases which algorithmic digital spiders peruse looking for insurgent patterns. Cameras mounted at every intersection connected to AI that can track your Ford Escort across the map. 5G surveillance / energy weapons that can see through walls and manipulate or kill you on command. Your actions and communications are intercepted all the time, it doesn't matter if you follow OPSEC because nobody else is. Nobody can, the eyes of The Beast are everywhere.

To kill The Beast you have to bring down power and networks, completely, on a very large scale. You have to keep that down long enough to achieve your goals. This is no small feat. It's not impossible, just highly unlikely. Right now, somebody is raising an eyebrow at what I just said and that's the point I'm trying to make: in order to organize, you've got to open your mouth, but as soon as you open your mouth, THEY know what you are up to. I'm on the internet, which is a creation of DARPA. It's called the World Wide Web because it is designed to catch prey. The web is only a shard of their ability to monitor and control.

The last safe private place to exist is literally deep underground. They know this and it's why they have their D.U.M.B. facilities all over the place.

In short: without taking down The Beast, there will never be a successful overthrow of our oppressors. Get the fuck outta dodge and find a cave. Keep your head down and wait it out. The breaking point draws near believe that. The opening plays of the end game have been made: worldwide injections designed to slowly kill the obedient, destruction of food supply chains everywhere, poisoning of our land and water. When the masses of frogs realize they are already boiling, they'll start jumping out of the pot and the whole place is going to catch fire when the ZOG's flamethrowers unleash on hell's kitchen. Good luck everyone, you're gonna need it.

[ - ] TwoTone 0 points 1.7 yearsMar 3, 2023 11:00:30 ago (+0/-0)

As long as The Beast is allowed to exist, there will be no uprising. The Beast is technology.

This precise level of luddite, low-IQ ignorance is why we are losing. Cannot calibrate smooth brain functionality enough and merely thinks a magical make-believe return to the stone age is the only winning outcome.

At the end of the day, the other side has the intelligent people, and ours is held captive by a bunch of autistic and religious morons.