I was recently speaking with a proudly conservative Brother in one of the orders. He was pretty far out there but very open to challenging questions and I brought up how the Church restricts the books that layman are allowed to read, Index librorum prohibitorum. I asked him if this was an old antiquated guideline or if it should still be followed. He did the usual run around and then looked me right in the eye and said “The only ones that You really need to stay away from are the Gnostics.” He was pretty weird about it and I couldn’t tell if he was trying to encourage me to read them or to discourage me.
I know nothing about the Gnostics. Is it worth spending the time to look into? Do you think he was trying to encourage me or discourage me? Will reading the gnostic gospels turn me into an anti-semetic Protestant?
I've only started reading the Gnostic scriptures, but hearsay is that Gnostic believed Jesus was a regular man who rose to divinity through pious living.
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 2.3 yearsMar 14, 2023 12:04:17 ago (+1/-0)
Gnosis makes you into a kabbalist, forever seeking for answers everywhere and not archieving anything. Its of most dangerous nature because it infects those of higher intellect that could use it to serve God, and yet Gnosis serves to mock and ridicule God for not providing the answers they seek. Its a form of anthropocentrism that fueled commies (revolution against a righteous state) liberalism (revolution against tradition) and protestantism (revolution against God's Church).
As Catholic, I was never discouraged to read about different views, "more one know, better one can choose" - but that might be more a traditional/national aspect than religious one.
Gnostic mysticism is an old cult/parasitic religion that can't exist on its own -- it needs other religions to impersonate and claim to be the proper "purer" version of.
Christianity already went through a new-age crisis and it was around 1000 AD with the rise of christian gnostics that began preaching that Jesus was truly a gnostic..
It's long and convoluted and their creation myth is long and insane but all you have to know is that the Demiurge is the evil god that has trapped us here and with the correct Gnosis or Knowledge you can escape this plane of existence.
Modern trans ideology is a type of mystic gnosticism, Karl Marx was a gnostic hermetic wizard (he literally throught of himself as one).
Below is an excerpt from an amazing tweet-thread written by James Lindsay a few weeks ago when he cracked the code that the entire trans thing was a gnostic mystic cult behaviour:
It's called a "deadname" because adopting a trans identity is a ritual of death and rebirth in Queer Gnosticism. Technically, it's a crude, external (simulated) step toward Hermetic ascension to the level of self-begottenness so that one's gender soul might actualize.
The actualization ritual follows the Hermetic "principle of correspondence": "as above, so below; as below, so above," working from the below side. Change your body (as below) and exhort society to accept it (so above). Social affirmation reifies the change (as above, so below).
The motivation to engage in this ritual is a belief in Queer Gnosticism that society has constructed gender categories and norms to imprison people in the Fallen world according to the lowest part of themselves, their genitals. By liberating self and desire, transmutation comes.
Your participation in the ritual comes from acquiescence to "affirmation," which transmutes the social constructions and completes the transformation that began with a crude mundane simulation called a "trans body." Transition completes when everyone accepts it.
When you believe all distinction is an illusion (Hermetic) and socially constructed (mystic Gnosticism), you believe you transform reality on a spiritual level through the process of transition followed by forced acceptance of transition (mostly through exhortation).
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The faster we realize this is a cult and a religion, the faster we can use the law against it.
The one thing I will say for gnostic christians over the rest is at least they realize the god of the old testament is a horrifyingly evil false god. Now they just need to figure out that the god of the new testament is the same god.
[ + ] mxcviel
[ - ] mxcviel 3 points 2.3 yearsMar 14, 2023 08:58:07 ago (+3/-0)
that was funnny
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[ - ] mxcviel 1 point 2.3 yearsMar 14, 2023 09:32:05 ago (+2/-1)
and how Saturninus of Antioch came to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturninus_of_Antioch
As Catholic, I was never discouraged to read about different views, "more one know, better one can choose" - but that might be more a traditional/national aspect than religious one.
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 1 point 2.3 yearsMar 14, 2023 06:32:50 ago (+1/-0)
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Christianity already went through a new-age crisis and it was around 1000 AD with the rise of christian gnostics that began preaching that Jesus was truly a gnostic..
It's long and convoluted and their creation myth is long and insane but all you have to know is that the Demiurge is the evil god that has trapped us here and with the correct Gnosis or Knowledge you can escape this plane of existence.
Modern trans ideology is a type of mystic gnosticism, Karl Marx was a gnostic hermetic wizard (he literally throught of himself as one).
Below is an excerpt from an amazing tweet-thread written by James Lindsay a few weeks ago when he cracked the code that the entire trans thing was a gnostic mystic cult behaviour:
It's called a "deadname" because adopting a trans identity is a ritual of death and rebirth in Queer Gnosticism. Technically, it's a crude, external (simulated) step toward Hermetic ascension to the level of self-begottenness so that one's gender soul might actualize.
The actualization ritual follows the Hermetic "principle of correspondence": "as above, so below; as below, so above," working from the below side. Change your body (as below) and exhort society to accept it (so above). Social affirmation reifies the change (as above, so below).
The motivation to engage in this ritual is a belief in Queer Gnosticism that society has constructed gender categories and norms to imprison people in the Fallen world according to the lowest part of themselves, their genitals. By liberating self and desire, transmutation comes.
Your participation in the ritual comes from acquiescence to "affirmation," which transmutes the social constructions and completes the transformation that began with a crude mundane simulation called a "trans body." Transition completes when everyone accepts it.
When you believe all distinction is an illusion (Hermetic) and socially constructed (mystic Gnosticism), you believe you transform reality on a spiritual level through the process of transition followed by forced acceptance of transition (mostly through exhortation).
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The faster we realize this is a cult and a religion, the faster we can use the law against it.
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood -1 points 2.3 yearsMar 14, 2023 07:38:22 ago (+0/-1)
Why do people spend so much time backing up?
There is no gain in those writings, nothing but defeat.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
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