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So who thinks prayer is useless?

submitted by albatrosv15 to AskUpgoat 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 16:47:31 ago (+5/-7)     (AskUpgoat)



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[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 26, 2023 09:04:39 ago (+0/-0)

Posted this before. posting again. It is a good thought experiment:

Let's pretend there are two people. Both very sick in the hospital.

There's Bill. Good guy, blue collar worker. Lived a decent life. Was raised in a non-religious household. He knows right from wrong, and treats everyone fairly. Is a loving husband and father. No one prays for Bill's recovery.


There is Frank. Frank is a member of a large church. Frank is a decent guy, treats everyone fairly. Before each mass, a thousand people pray for Franks recovery.


They both die. Which one makes it to a theologically promised paradise?

[ - ] albatrosv15 [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 27, 2023 02:32:33 ago (+0/-0)

So if there is a prayer, there is paradise? That's very specific connection you have there.
Do you know what's placebo? Do you know what's nocebo? They are powerful "drugs".

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 20:39:15 ago (+0/-0)

Depends on desired outcomes. Selfish prayers are seldom answered.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 20:30:44 ago (+0/-0)

I find in general, unenlightened people hold that view.

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 20:07:16 ago (+1/-0)

While I don't think it useless , I do find the conversation a bit one sided at times

[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 19:08:37 ago (+1/-1)

Praying what to whom?
Be more specific because it matters.
If you are "oh god" before you cum that isnt prayer.

[ - ] ghetto_shitlord -3 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 18:56:22 ago (+0/-3)

Probably the most useless thing you can do. Do something useful instead.

[ - ] Rob3122 -2 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 18:38:28 ago (+1/-3)

I do and will continue to believe it's useless until someone can prove to me that it's ever accomplished anything.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 21:07:14 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] SecretHitler 5 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 17:29:43 ago (+6/-1)

It works, sometimes shockingly well.

Even for atheists, you should consider the prayer format. There's plenty of value in collecting your thoughts around something you want or are questioning and verbalizing it in detail and with intent focus. Or even the same exercise but with gratitude for the good things in your life.

The former helps you get what you want and the latter is like a whitepill on demand.

But actual prayer goes beyond that and is very real. (And is way better if you pray to your people's own Gods)

[ - ] albatrosv15 [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 26, 2023 02:58:15 ago (+1/-0)

I don't know if "shockingly", but collecting thoughts is truly interesting. Sometimes the need for a vice is destroyed with the simple thought "are those really my own thoughts?"

[ - ] Spaceman84 -5 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 16:55:41 ago (+0/-5)

Sacrifices seem to get more results, but what do I know, I’m not a spiritual semite worshipping the demiurge that kikes sold to the gentiles.

[ - ] albatrosv15 [op] 3 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 17:00:02 ago (+4/-1)

Did i imply any specific god here? Did i imply god at all?
So, interestingly, triggered.

[ - ] Spaceman84 -6 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 17:22:38 ago (+0/-6)

You’re praying to a deity or interdimensional entity. Very high odds that it’s yahweh the demiurge. Don’t think you’re clever, faggot.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 21:14:20 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Spaceman84 -8 points 2.2 yearsApr 25, 2023 17:24:08 ago (+0/-8)

You’re also a known christfag

[ - ] albatrosv15 [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 26, 2023 02:56:28 ago (+0/-0)

Were aztecs awesome?