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Anyone here use both Linux Mint 21.1 (Ubuntu) and LMDE5

submitted by deleted to Linux 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 00:25:11 ago (+11/-0)     (Linux)

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[ - ] beece 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 01:19:49 ago (+0/-0)

Not both, but Mint Cinnamon user here (not familiar with LMDE5), can you expound on why you started looking around to other distros and some of the pitfalls of that?

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 01:56:25 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] GloryBeckons 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 04:37:26 ago (+1/-0)

I would say that one of the biggest pitfall I continually have is installing a Linux OS seamlessly, and ganking it up during configuring it and having to start over.

Look into btrfs and its snapshot feature.

You mentioned you have tried Nobara... I believe that uses btrfs by default, being based on Fedora. Most distros use ext4 by default and you would have to switch to btrfs during installation.

If your OS is installed on a partition formatted to btrfs, you can make instant snapshots of its current state. Then you can install whatever you like, make whatever config changes you want... and if something breaks you can instantly revert to the previous state. Or any state you ever made a snapshot of. The snapshots happen instantly, and initially cost zero disk space, because nothing is copied. It's just a bookmark. Copies of data only start being made as you start making changes after making the snapshot. This happens on a block level, so changing a single byte in a 10GB file won't copy the whole file but just the block that changed (usually 4 kb). Since the filesystem is doing this, it's completely transparent... you never see it happening or interact with it, unless you're making or restoring snapshots. This filesystem also has many other advanced features.

The cost of those bells and whistles is that btrfs is quite a bit slower than more traditional filesystems. It's a good idea to have a separate partition or device, formatted to something like ext4 or XFS, for things where you want maximum IO speed and don't need fancy filesystem level version management. But it's a lifesaver for restoring a broken system with an instant "undo".

[ - ] beece 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 12:21:16 ago (+0/-0)

Thanks Isnark (and you too GloryBeckons). It does help. I had a company but sold it and all the computers etc. went with. The home Mac my wife had bought me as a gift was creeping slow and barely usable after I updated the Mac OS and it pissed me off so much I left the Mac (and windows) building.

I bought a 10 year old refurbished Dell Optiplex (DELL Optiplex 990 SFF PC, Intel Core i5 Processor, 16GB RAM, 2TB HDD, DVDRW, Keyboard & Mouse, WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, Windows 10 Pro, 20in LCD Monitor (Renewed)'])for $277 and stuck a 2nd 2TB SSD screamingly fast Hard drive on it as my main drive and with Mint it's as fast as any new $2000-$3000 computer for my needs. Not a gamer so I didn't need some stuff. I Nuked and repaved the old legacy drive to boot to Ubuntu in case anything went bad, but haven't needed it in the year I've had the machine. I fucking love Linux and the whole linux software environment. I was never a tech guy as I had so many around or hired in at times, and we had Windows Server at work which was fairly complex to me. I didn't need to know jack or shit about any of that, but I'm digging diving in this new world of fuck around and learn it myself.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 03:02:11 ago (+0/-0)

I use arch btw.

[ - ] RedBarchetta 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 11:01:54 ago (+0/-0)

Gallium on an old Chromebook.

[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 02:22:57 ago (+1/-0)

I used to big on Ubuntu.

But as a replacement for shitdows, mint is just more accessible for my family.

So I'm sold

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 02:25:24 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 02:46:41 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] MrPancake 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 11:50:16 ago (+0/-0)

Cinnamon is hands down the best DE right now providing you have decent hardware. Use XFCE if you have an old junker around. Plasma is a nice DE but I find it has issues with scaling on 4k and in VirtualBox the screen flickers. SteamOS is going Plasma, so hopefully working with Valve will give the Plasma team a leg up.

[ - ] TheNoticing 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 09:50:20 ago (+1/-0)

As a Windows-only user, I'm also interested in switching to Linux as Steam will stop running on Windows 7 on the new year.

[ - ] WyattDonnelly 4 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 00:46:06 ago (+4/-0)

I much prefer Debian (mainly on principal), however Ubuntu does have better support and because of that runs smoother. Two machines side-by-side daily; Win7 and Mint21 (Ubuntu), the more I use Mint, the more I like it.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 00:59:46 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] GloryBeckons 4 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 01:42:52 ago (+4/-0)

I don't use either, but I do have thoughts:

Ubuntu used to set the bar for user-friendly desktop Linux when it was new. But they took a wrong turn ideologically long ago and it's been all downhill since. Mint developers have been rightfully at odds with the direction Ubuntu is going, and keep having to do more and more work to fix and undo the crazy things Ubuntu tries to push.

Looks like they're getting tired of it and preparing an exit strategy with LMDE. That's good to see. Ubuntu deserves to go the way of the Dodo. I would predict that LMDE will eventually become the standard Mint, and the Ubuntu edition will be dropped at some point after that. Might be years away though.

Mint devs seem to have their heads screwed on right. It's a shame they dropped KDE support though.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 21, 2023 02:33:41 ago (+2/-0)

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