Scientists are whores. Theyve shown that they are over and over. Who pays for science? Government or corporations. In the Renaissance it was the Catholic church. Scientific establishment will never bite the hand that feeds it.
I mean honesty I have some personal experience with bias and the power that employers can exert over the way you do your work. People want to please their bosses. Theres rarely any threats involved. People understand what the results “should be” and then do all sorts of little things to influence the outcome.
Scientists, even really really smart ones, are not monks of truth and objectivity.
What people fail to realize is that while the abstract principle of the scientific method and the ideal of the academic world are perfect.
The real world of science and academia has the imperfections of being run by human beings.
Human beings lie, they practice politics and play power games, they have ideologies, loved ones, and other personal interests that give them cause to betray their lessee commitment to the unvarnished truth.
Then there's the issue of human limitations, not everyone knows everything, and most experts aren't even omniscient about everything within their own field of expertise.
And on top of all that is the necessary reliance upon a chain of trust when it comes to any peace of knowledge, they must rely upon other experts who in turn must place their trust in another expert. It's gotten to the point where one lie could easily fool the whole of academia due to how all the academics are going about spreading the false truths among one another.
What about experimental evidence? Doesn't that end the flow of lies throughout the scientific world? Yes it would, if everything was being done as it was supposed to.
But as it stands there is a lot that gets in the way of testing claims being made, there's more glory on being on the front line of scientific discovery than being the one who checks the claims of other scientists, it's also more profitable.
There is a lot of politics mucking about within academics preventing certain experiments from being carried out and certain claims from being subjected to falsification.
The people responsible for this might be ideologues who believe in spreading lies or hiding truths for the sake of a better world, or are the hostages of greater forces (people and institutions who hold some form of power over them).
I agree with trusting the scientific method, and with the model of scientific enquiry that has people testing the claims made by others through replication attempts.
But the scientists and other power players within the world of academia, along with those who manage the interactions between the world of science and the masses, are all people who I do not trust.
In the future we will see people needing to rethink their attitudes towards those who speak in the name of science, seeing their potential for corruption and abuse of the trust we placed in them as authorities on truth.
We'd have to do this just as we did with religious authorities.
A chemical found in a natural source and the same chemical that's been synthesized are identical. The latter doesn't come with a bunch of other chemicals that add different effects, and doesn't have issues with the concentration of those chemicals varying from plant to plant. Isolating those chemicals made treatment more effective, and synthesis made them cheaper.
There are chemicals in nature that are addictive and so are the synthetic versions. Don't paint the entire category as addictive because someone took morphine and duplicated it.
This seems to be pushing people to abandon "evil modern medicine" and go to hedge witches and Chinese sorcerers instead.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 1.9 yearsMay 23, 2023 18:16:04 ago (+5/-0)
I mean honesty I have some personal experience with bias and the power that employers can exert over the way you do your work. People want to please their bosses. Theres rarely any threats involved. People understand what the results “should be” and then do all sorts of little things to influence the outcome.
Scientists, even really really smart ones, are not monks of truth and objectivity.
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The real world of science and academia has the imperfections of being run by human beings.
Human beings lie, they practice politics and play power games, they have ideologies, loved ones, and other personal interests that give them cause to betray their lessee commitment to the unvarnished truth.
Then there's the issue of human limitations, not everyone knows everything, and most experts aren't even omniscient about everything within their own field of expertise.
And on top of all that is the necessary reliance upon a chain of trust when it comes to any peace of knowledge, they must rely upon other experts who in turn must place their trust in another expert. It's gotten to the point where one lie could easily fool the whole of academia due to how all the academics are going about spreading the false truths among one another.
What about experimental evidence? Doesn't that end the flow of lies throughout the scientific world? Yes it would, if everything was being done as it was supposed to.
But as it stands there is a lot that gets in the way of testing claims being made, there's more glory on being on the front line of scientific discovery than being the one who checks the claims of other scientists, it's also more profitable.
There is a lot of politics mucking about within academics preventing certain experiments from being carried out and certain claims from being subjected to falsification.
The people responsible for this might be ideologues who believe in spreading lies or hiding truths for the sake of a better world, or are the hostages of greater forces (people and institutions who hold some form of power over them).
I agree with trusting the scientific method, and with the model of scientific enquiry that has people testing the claims made by others through replication attempts.
But the scientists and other power players within the world of academia, along with those who manage the interactions between the world of science and the masses, are all people who I do not trust.
In the future we will see people needing to rethink their attitudes towards those who speak in the name of science, seeing their potential for corruption and abuse of the trust we placed in them as authorities on truth.
We'd have to do this just as we did with religious authorities.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 1.9 yearsMay 23, 2023 14:51:02 ago (+1/-0)
But something CALLING itself science can be bought.
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 23, 2023 20:02:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 1.9 yearsMay 23, 2023 19:59:01 ago (+1/-0)
On another note hunter bidens laptop just went up to 3 billion.
They just cohensidentally found 3 billion in tax payer money laying around.
Mine as well give it to yookrane right? RIGHT? RIIIIIIIGHT
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[ - ] o0shad0o 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 24, 2023 07:53:52 ago (+0/-0)
A chemical found in a natural source and the same chemical that's been synthesized are identical. The latter doesn't come with a bunch of other chemicals that add different effects, and doesn't have issues with the concentration of those chemicals varying from plant to plant. Isolating those chemicals made treatment more effective, and synthesis made them cheaper.
There are chemicals in nature that are addictive and so are the synthetic versions. Don't paint the entire category as addictive because someone took morphine and duplicated it.
This seems to be pushing people to abandon "evil modern medicine" and go to hedge witches and Chinese sorcerers instead.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 24, 2023 12:43:07 ago (+0/-0)
Space is fake and gay, the people telling you it is real want you genocided.