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How do people with out an inner monolog function? Can't plan ahead? Can't think through problems?

submitted by Doglegwarrior to AskUpgoat 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 14:32:18 ago (+17/-2)     (AskUpgoat)

But they are living a zen existence in the moment


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[ - ] Portmanure 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:07:01 ago (+0/-0)

You mean the happy go lucky people who stumble through life without a care in the world and yet seem to come up smelling of roses every single time? Those people don’t exist. According to my inner monologue.

[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:17:23 ago (+2/-0)

That's not an inner monologue those are intrusive thoughts

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 2 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:36:54 ago (+2/-0)

Sometimes, not all that infrequent actually, my intrusive thoughts are actually pretty welcome.

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:10:40 ago (+0/-0)

Why don't you tell us how you do it?

[ - ] Thought_Criminal 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:32:04 ago (+0/-0)

Animal fury is zen existence?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 16:10:42 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 20:35:10 ago (+0/-0)

And that's why the leftist voter is captured by cliches

At risk kids, Under privelaged youth, they have to hit rock bottom first, systemic racism, The vocabulary is all cliche phrases that are not real.

Words are literally creating their reality, instead of the other way around.

[ - ] NeedleStack 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 16:38:57 ago (+0/-0)

These videos gave a lot of insight into this:

https://youtu.be/u69YSh-cFXY

https://youtu.be/hIoK6GslkZQ

[ - ] Doglegwarrior [op] 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2023 02:07:27 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks for posting those I am still fucking confused how these people function

[ - ] Peleg 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 17:39:51 ago (+0/-0)

On the other hand, I know a dude that cannot get out of his own head. He listens to nothing but the inner monologue playing in his mind.
The guy can't even make small talk much less have a conversation! He is pitiful.

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 20:01:35 ago (+0/-0)

I talk out loud to myself. No I haven't answered myself.

... yet

[ - ] NedsHead 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 21:26:25 ago (+0/-0)

Do niggers in general have an internal monologue?

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2023 20:21:31 ago (+0/-0)

This is one of the more interesting discussions ever on this website

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 3 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 14:35:31 ago (+3/-0)

I think its the same people who give owen benjewman $400 and gold and silver. Also something I noticed is how short owens followers are. lol Then most of these podcasters have tiny shoulders.

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 22:00:49 ago (+0/-0)

I'm a shorter than average male and believe the only good jew is a dead one.

[ - ] GreenSaint 8 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:07:31 ago (+8/-0)

I’m not smart but I wish I was a little dumber. Stupid people gotta be so much happier. I feel like there’s levels to stupid. I’m right in between where I recognize how fucked up I am. I need to be dumb enough to not recognize that. Maybe I’ll go bang my head on a wall for a while

[ - ] inaminit 3 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:31:17 ago (+5/-2)

While ignorance may be blissful, stupidity is the purest ecstasy imaginable... Hence you have jackasses like @the_old_ones and @Jew_McCarthy who are completely addicted.

[ - ] the_old_ones 2 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 17:35:03 ago (+2/-0)

i should be charging rent from you for how much i live up there rent free

stop acting so childish, for your age its embarrassing and the cambrian fossil who birthed you is spinning in their grave out of embarrassment

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 21:59:49 ago (+0/-0)

Concussions are no fun, ask me how I know.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 10 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:39:40 ago (+10/-0)*

It's possible to think and plan via visualization, rather than verbal monologue. Ideally one should be able to do both.

But, apparently, there are "people" who are both incapable of visualizing and who also don't have a monologue. I can only imagine that such an existence is akin to that of a lesser animal, able only to react to their environment, and lacking the means to even think about problems other than the ones immediately in front of them, let alone coming up with solutions to them.

Perhaps that's why so many people seem to have an existential dread towards the silence of solitude. And why they are so eager to please and go along with the herd, for fear of being abandoned by it. To them, being alone with their absence of thoughts must seem no different than ceasing to exist at all.

It may also explain why they get so angry when you try to talk about bigger problems outside of their immediate view. To them, it must seem like you talking about it is what's causing the problem to exist. And that, by doing so, you are creating a danger of them being ostracized. If only you would just stop saying it, there would be no problem or danger at all.

Current iterations of AI are essentially on this level. All they can do is react to what you put in front of them. But that is already fairly convincing, and sometimes better than what a good chunk of humans can do.

[ - ] Fascinus 2 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 16:36:54 ago (+2/-0)

apparently, there are "people" who are both incapable of visualizing and who also don't have a monologue.

I know of such an individual. A former friend of one of my older daughters. Wildly impulsive, prone to highly inappropriate behavior and fits of anger involving breaking shit.

Last time I saw her, I politely made casual conversation, all the while staring into the blackest void imaginable within her eyes. There was literally nothing there. Freaked me the fuck out then and it's still a little freaky looking back on it.

[ - ] PhantomXLII 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 19:54:19 ago (+0/-0)

Just hope a mercy kill suddenly happens and carry on.

[ - ] Rotteuxx 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 15:51:16 ago (+3/-3)

But, apparently, there are "people" who are both incapable of visualizing and who also don't have a monologue. I can only imagine that such an existence is akin to that of a lesser animal, able only to react to their environment, and lacking the means to even think about problems other than the ones immediately in front of them, let alone coming up with solutions to them.

This is the bane of my professional existence in the world of metal fabrication. I get excellent welders (hand/eye coordination is A1) who cannot visualize anything in their heads even if their life depended on it. Sometimes I have to physically put pieces together for them to understand the 2D drawing that's in front of them and they still struggle to the point of trying to rearrange the pieces I just positioned together because it doesn't line up with what they're understanding.

Some can't even look at a sample and reproduce it, sadly we're talking about very White folks here, I dont work with niggers and shitskins.

As far as these folks having an internal monologue, some do and others think as they speak once they hear the words coming out of their mouths.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 2 points 1.8 yearsJul 7, 2023 17:21:18 ago (+2/-0)

Yeah, there's plenty like that among our people too. I think we still have a better ratio than others but, sadly, it seems to be getting worse.

Imagination and conscious projection are skills and, like any other skill, there's both a genetic and an environmental component to it. You need the necessary hardware to be able to do it at all but, if you never learn how, or never use it, it can and will atrophy and fade away.

We lost many of our best genetic specimen in WW2 and education has been declining and corrupting ever since. Many of our children are woefully neglected and/or abused. Can't expect them to reach their potential when everything in their environment is actively suppressing it.