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Glad to see so many people here enjoy cooking their own food, especially meat. What do you think about chicken fried steak?

submitted by Lost_In_The_Thinking to NutziHiveKickers 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 18:52:42 ago (+15/-1)     (NutziHiveKickers)

I've always loved it but never learned how to cook it. My wife made it for me a couple of times, but inexplicably used cornmeal with the breading. It was ... okay. I asked her not to use cornmeal again, but the next time, damn if she didn't do it again. I just asked her how it was done and made my own next time and showed her how it's done correctly. She just shook her head and said "That's not how I was taught to do it." I replied "But this is now EVERYONE ELSE makes it! And if you can't make it correctly, don't make it for me at all!" And so that's how it was. She never made it again because she always insisted on using cornmeal (which I despise, by the way), but at least I learned how to pound cheap steak meat and make really kick-ass chicken fried steak.


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[ - ] JamesMadison 6 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:25:00 ago (+6/-0)

Chicken fried steak is a kind of schnitzel. Probably finds its finest form in Texas thanks to all the German and Czech immigrants. I use venison cutlets (tenderized) as well as beef cutlets. It is one of my favorite meals, period. You have to make a good gravy to go with it. Use a lot of black pepper to season the gravy. It is best with mashed potatoes, with the meat and taters drenched in gravy. God it is good!!

I'm hungry now.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:42:21 ago (+2/-0)

Pepper is the key. If you don't use a ton, its just fucking flour goop.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:11:27 ago (+1/-0)

Peppery is the definitely the way to go.

[ - ] MaryXmas 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:40:05 ago (+1/-0)

Flour oil goop is ok in my book. As long as it's tallow or lard.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 21:40:13 ago (+1/-0)

I can get with that as long as like you said, tallow or lard. But a fuckton of pepper makes it that much better.

[ - ] White_Pride_Cis 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 23:14:37 ago (+0/-0)

Do you have a recipe for both? I’d like to give this a try. Too bad I left all of my collected bacon grease back in iowa

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 4 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:19:13 ago (+4/-0)

If I’m being honest, it’s White trash feed from Denny's. Now, in all fairness, your wife is retarded. Use a blend of flour and cornstarch. Cornstarch gets crispy but doesn’t have the proteins for browning that wheat flour has, so you blend the two, 50/50 for the best results.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 5 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:21:47 ago (+5/-0)

1) You may be partly correct.
2) You are entirely correct.
3) Another good idea. I'll try that next time.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:57:01 ago (+3/-0)

For exact mixture ratios, do some research. Most tempura cooks very quickly compared to a piece of beef. You may want a ratio different than 50/50. My wife is a bit retarded in the kitchen too. Not entirely, she does a lot of good stuff, but some things she does make no sense. For instance, I can’t get her to use the correct knives for things, no matter what.

[ - ] AttilaHitler 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 22:22:23 ago (+2/-0)

I gave up trying to teach my chicken to cook steak

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 22:36:28 ago (+1/-0)

Well, it was a valiant effort. Great concept, but it seems your fowl let you down -- most foully.

[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 21:17:09 ago (+2/-0)

the idea of cornmeal crust on chicken fried steak is disgusting. my recommendations : whip your egg whites and then mix into your batter mixture if you're doing the lazy, or do the 3 part (floor egg breadcrumb). don't buy what you see in stores, those cuts of meat are usually scraps that are meat glued together. do use a tenderizer, either a needle punch or you can do pineapple or papaya extract to tenderize. high temp on beef fat to cook, finish in oven on a rack. in the pan make the gravy using beef fat and butter to form the roux. I use some stock and milk and lots of fresh ground tellicherry. you can add a bit of cornstarch for more crispy.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 21:26:18 ago (+0/-0)

those cuts of meat are usually scraps that are meat glued together.

I wouldn't believe you if I hadn't seen a video about that. Disgusting. What cut of meat would you recommend?

[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 28, 2023 12:51:00 ago (+0/-0)

that's really up to you, what you want the outcome to be, and how much effort you want to put into it. if you find cheap sirloin that's a good one. I'd skip any real steaks (NY and Ribeye) and roasts like a chuck roast. if you tenderize it, esp. mechanically and then enzymatically it won't matter much since it'll be partially broken down. start with whatever price point you want and go from there.

[ - ] Inward 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:55:11 ago (+2/-0)

Delicious

[ - ] ilikeskittles 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:44:42 ago (+2/-0)

There’s a place in San Antonio that’s has a Chicken Fried Ribeye, that is to die for.

Edit: Little Red Barn Steakhouse.

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[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:07:01 ago (+2/-0)

I think you hit the nail on the head. Well said.

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[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:09:41 ago (+2/-0)

Agreed. The steak is the key component, but the gravy is what takes it over the top.

[ - ] PhantomXLII 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 28, 2023 00:47:30 ago (+1/-0)

Honestly, I enjoy it.

However, there's plenty of other things I prefer before it. One thing I've been craving lately is steak fingers. That with some tots and white gravy... Hell yeah.

[ - ] mostlyfriendly 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:30:20 ago (+1/-0)

Ha! She might have gotten what she wanted ... you to get off your butt and cook on occasion. :)

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:50:53 ago (+2/-0)

Right blame the husband and sole financial provider for the household, not the lazy wife who couldn't even be bothered to do housework, wash dishes, dress the kids, or do laundry. Oh yeah, she got what she wanted, and she lowered the entire family's standards to meet them. Screw off.

[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:15:03 ago (+2/-0)

I've been scolded by the people on here before for rants about having to do everything and "you should talk to your husband about helping you"

I'm going to watch this thread to see if you get similar treatment.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:19:41 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks. And I apologized below for my earlier comment.

[ - ] ToNigIsToNog -1 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 21:13:19 ago (+0/-1)

this is the right answer to why you either don't get married or marry the right person. what entitlement.

[ - ] SumerBreeze 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 18:57:00 ago (+1/-0)

You don’t have to pound the steak if you leave it in a milk/egg wash for a couple hours (even better up to 4 hours).

You gonna use that anyway for the crumbs/seasoning to stick.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 18:59:21 ago (+1/-0)

I'll try that next time, thanks.

[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 18:55:34 ago (+1/-0)

I like your wife.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 4 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 18:58:58 ago (+4/-0)

She's a sweet lady, but can't cook worth a shit. I learned everything I know about cooking around her. Not from her. I mean by going around her and not taking any of her advice.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:45:11 ago (+2/-0)

If you like to cook (I do), get the book How to cook Everything. Fantastic book, that is more like a textbook for food not a cookbook. It does have recipes but it is so full of useful shit..what cut come from where, shelf lifes, etc. My introduction to cooking. Shit, I bet that book is 20 years old by now.

I'm getting old.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:53:48 ago (+3/-0)

I have numerous cookbooks, some from my mom which were her wedding presents, and an oddity called "The Flavor Bible", which is an encyclopedia of what meats, vegetables, spices, and other flavorings go with others. It's very abstract, but it an excellent reference and good for inspiration.

I'll look into that book. It sounds really amazing. Thanks!

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:59:29 ago (+2/-0)

The flavor Bible..I'll have to check that one out!

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:14:53 ago (+2/-0)

I see an ebook version of How to Cook Everything, which I'll download to evaluate, but everyone knows you can't cook a recipe on a phone or a tablet. I'll need to get a paper copy of that. The best cookbooks in a kitchen are dogeared, tabbed, and bookmarked.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:24:10 ago (+2/-0)

Agreed. I originally checked it out the library, loved it so much had to buy a copy. Bought my dad one, too.

[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:01:00 ago (+1/-0)

She stood her ground and did it again!

Thats the best part. "I'm going to keep cooking it like this until thats the way you like it" haha

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:07:56 ago (+1/-0)

You could be right but if so it would be a Pyrrhic victory. In her case, I know it was just laziness. For decades, I always resented that she never made any effort remember what food or meals I like and never made the effort to make them. I always do so with her, even though I found her tastes a bit weird. We still had meals together, but it was usually what she wanted or how she liked it. Being a stronk wammin only goes so far.

[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:45:15 ago (+1/-0)

She never made any effort remember what food or meals I like and never made the effort to make them

I don't know that life. I was living vicariously through her for a moment. If he doesn't like what I make he will go out and get something to eat and I refuse to spend any more money on food than I have to because I want other things.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:48:55 ago (+1/-0)*

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[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:42:08 ago (+2/-0)

But someone upvoted it! Whoever it was is a dick and I love it.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:51:13 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 19:50:17 ago (+1/-0)

I wish.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:17:34 ago (+1/-0)

Sorry, I misread your previous post. I take my comment back. It sounds like you're being considerate and thoughtful and hubby is being picky. Yeah, I agree, that can get wearisome. Don't mind me, I'm drunk. :)

[ - ] Gowithit 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:28:00 ago (+3/-0)

Not picky, just the one that makes the money. Plus if he figures out he can do things better without me I'm screwed. As you said earlier
Being a stronk wammin only goes so far.

He's told me before

1)having kids
2) wanting you around

only goes so far. and I believe him.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking [op] 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2023 20:48:45 ago (+3/-0)

I won't presume to second-guess your family life, so I offer no unsolicited advice or observations. I respect intact families and couples who try to live a more-or-less "traditional" live. I have a different understanding of that because I was born in the 50s and have a different perspective from "kids these days". When I was growing up, it was very unusual for a wife to have a job and they took their job at home seriously, generally.

Speaking for myself, I didn't make it a point that I was the sole provider, I just assumed my wife would figure it out for herself eventually, but after 30 years, I actually had to say it explicitly (this was years after the kids had moved away) that I had more value in the household because I brought in more the three times more income that she did. He couldn't believe I said such a thing, but I asked her whether she could could keep everything paid for on just her income.

Now, I NEVER brought it up until then. I was extremely undemanding of her all of our life together. I always wanted mutual respect for our different roles, but she saw that very differently.

I'm sorry for bringing this up, but my marriage has been difficult because I always gave and got nothing back. It was only in the last 10 years or so that I stiffened my spine and said so. The marital roles may be different, but respect has to work both ways.

Sorry for the wall of text. I have a lot of stuff I still need to work through.