[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsOct 7, 2023 23:20:35 ago (+1/-0)
Pretty sure they're not Christian. Christians read the Bible and hear His word.
Like: Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
and Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsOct 7, 2023 23:37:42 ago (+1/-0)
I didn't write the standard, God says that those who are his hear his words.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
If you don't hear him and follow him then...
The Bible says in Matthew 7: 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
[ - ] Not_C 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 04:06:33 ago (+1/-0)
Instead of saying, "Synagogue of Satan" - Tell "Christians" to read Galatians 3.
And then ask them these 2 questions - What does Galatians 3 say? Why does Galatians 3 exist and what was God trying to achieve by putting Galatians 3 in the Bible?
It's far more effective than screaming Synagogue of Satan at them. Telling Christians that they are God's chosen people, not the Jews, is what Christians want to hear. The fact that God makes it perfectly clear in Galatians 3 that the Jews are cursed, and destined for Hell, are just bonuses that all Christians are forced to accept as Biblical facts.
I absolutely love the book of Galatians and know the rebukes that Paul makes of the judaisers throughout the book. How salvation is by grace through faith, that our salvation is in Jesus, that we are not to be taken back under the law, that we are the chosen in Christ.
Asking someone to read an entire book and ponder it's meaning and why it's there versus 2 individual verses that are clear as day is exponentially more difficult. If they won't hear a single verse, they won't hear an entire book.
@doginventer is a perfect example. He posts 'religious' content all the time, but he is just not willing to accept Galatians 3, and will simply quote other verses at it as though somehow other parts of the Bible contradict it. (they don't, he is just not saved, which is why he refuses to accept it)
Those who don't want to hear it, simply do not want to read the Bible and change their minds. They want to continue believing what they want to believe.
[ - ] Not_C 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 18:11:25 ago (+1/-0)
I politely disagree.
All "Christians" know that people take verses out of context so that the verses can be manipulated. So to ask a "Christian" to read just one chapter is not asking too much. Even the bad ones will, thinking that they'll be able to take a couple verses, remove them from their context, and use them to push their preconceived notions or agendas.
But the catch is that Galatians 3 exists solely to make it perfectly clear that the Jews are not God's chosen people. No matter how anyone tries to spin Galatians 3, they can NEVER claim that the Jews are God's chosen people and, at the same time, admit that Galatians 3 exists.
And once they are forced to admit that Galatians 3 exists and the Jews aren't God's chosen people, it's just one tiny little step for them to admit that the chapter (and therefore the Bible) clearly says that the Jews are cursed and destined for Hell. (Also, Galatians 3 has a HUGE bonus. Because "Christians" get to say that they themselves are God's chosen people.)
But you did touch on an important point. People on the internet only read the headlines, and then make up their own story to go along with it. My counterargument is that people on the internet like to argue. So, you just need to control the argument.
Each of you quoting verses doesn't put you in control. But if you say, "Read Galatians 3, then answer - What does it say and why does it say it?". Many will read it. Thinking that because they are experts at taking things out of context, they will gain ammo. Others will because you have control of the argument, and they have to if they want to argue back.
Once again I will openly and unequivocally affirm that we are saved by grace through faith; and that not of ourselves: it is the gift of God. Now perhaps you will tell us if you feel at liberty to murder, steal, lie, cheat, commit adultery, worship other gods or transgress any other of the commandments?
The ten commandments are the Old Covenant. We as believers in Christ are not under the ceremonial laws. The moral laws still apply, as God's morality never changes. Therefore, those things which are morally wrong are always morally wrong, and believers do those things by nature that are written in the law.
Simply put, no, we are not at liberty to murder, steal, lie, cheat, commit adultery, worship other gods.
Now with that being said, stop seeking to put us under the law, yourself included, and come to understand the doctrine of Christ and the law of Christ, that is summed up in two commandments; Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. And Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Jesus is our rest, he is our sabbath, there is no more keeping of the ceremonial portions of the law.
[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 03:56:17 ago (+1/-0)
It's about liars and hypocrites. You want Santa Clause that brings toys to all the bad kids.And that's only because you're coming from a fallen culture taken by douche bags who think the universe is reading their mind and rewarding them for having what only they think are good thoughts.
Please don't assume what I desire, I am not stating that I wish the nature of punishment to change for any offender, I am stating that it seem a tad odd that the reaction of a God is so very much like that of a Jilted lover or betrayed father. I don't think It's genuine, that's my gripe, I think it's a rebranded "from God".
The concept of God to me is higher than such things as nations. I ain't buyin it is all. Not advocating for any of the bastards in the pit.
I most certainly am not, I forgot we were even talking about kikes. I'm talking about believing that God is benevolent but creates things that he hates. Who put that thought in my head if you only have the 2 choices?
[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:30:50 ago (+1/-0)
Well, it is written that not everyone will come to believe. Some are to be vessels to dishonor.
2 Timothy 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
Who put that thought in my head if you only have the 2 choices?
Are you asking because you don't know? If you do not know, then it is possible it's not of you, no? Is it really so far fetched that thoughts can be placed in your mind?
Yea that part, you nailed it, about vessels to dishonor.... just why.. why would a God desire such a thing? The only need I see being fulfilled by those words are the human desire for revenge against any and all who have somehow slighted them. That's a human thing.
The 2nd part is just how I clumsily attempt to make a point about inquisitiveness not being synonymous with evil or deceptive practices (which I abhor). Why would that be needed? Because when I ask those questions, the notions are often demonized, but rarely addressed.
There are a lot of things that God does and thinks that may 'seem' like a human thing, we were made in the image of God. But his ways are higher than ours, his thoughts higher than ours.
This just kinda seems like a universal thing to me.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 2 points 7 monthsOct 7, 2023 23:29:03 ago (+2/-0)
Try to figure out which NiggerFaggot I am.
Hint: Jews mad.
[ + ] NukeAmerica
[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 7 monthsOct 7, 2023 23:31:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsOct 7, 2023 23:20:35 ago (+1/-0)
Christians read the Bible and hear His word.
Like: Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
and Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
[ + ] NukeAmerica
[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 2 points 7 monthsOct 7, 2023 23:21:59 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsOct 7, 2023 23:37:42 ago (+1/-0)
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
If you don't hear him and follow him then...
The Bible says in Matthew 7:
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
[ + ] NukeAmerica
[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:19:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:22:16 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] NukeAmerica
[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:54:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 04:06:33 ago (+1/-0)
And then ask them these 2 questions -
What does Galatians 3 say?
Why does Galatians 3 exist and what was God trying to achieve by putting Galatians 3 in the Bible?
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 04:08:57 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 14:12:10 ago (+0/-0)
It's far more effective than screaming Synagogue of Satan at them.
Telling Christians that they are God's chosen people, not the Jews, is what Christians want to hear.
The fact that God makes it perfectly clear in Galatians 3 that the Jews are cursed, and destined for Hell, are just bonuses that all Christians are forced to accept as Biblical facts.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 14:41:22 ago (+0/-0)
Asking someone to read an entire book and ponder it's meaning and why it's there versus 2 individual verses that are clear as day is exponentially more difficult. If they won't hear a single verse, they won't hear an entire book.
@doginventer is a perfect example. He posts 'religious' content all the time, but he is just not willing to accept Galatians 3, and will simply quote other verses at it as though somehow other parts of the Bible contradict it. (they don't, he is just not saved, which is why he refuses to accept it)
Those who don't want to hear it, simply do not want to read the Bible and change their minds. They want to continue believing what they want to believe.
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 18:11:25 ago (+1/-0)
All "Christians" know that people take verses out of context so that the verses can be manipulated.
So to ask a "Christian" to read just one chapter is not asking too much.
Even the bad ones will, thinking that they'll be able to take a couple verses, remove them from their context, and use them to push their preconceived notions or agendas.
But the catch is that Galatians 3 exists solely to make it perfectly clear that the Jews are not God's chosen people. No matter how anyone tries to spin Galatians 3, they can NEVER claim that the Jews are God's chosen people and, at the same time, admit that Galatians 3 exists.
And once they are forced to admit that Galatians 3 exists and the Jews aren't God's chosen people, it's just one tiny little step for them to admit that the chapter (and therefore the Bible) clearly says that the Jews are cursed and destined for Hell.
(Also, Galatians 3 has a HUGE bonus. Because "Christians" get to say that they themselves are God's chosen people.)
But you did touch on an important point.
People on the internet only read the headlines, and then make up their own story to go along with it.
My counterargument is that people on the internet like to argue. So, you just need to control the argument.
Each of you quoting verses doesn't put you in control.
But if you say, "Read Galatians 3, then answer - What does it say and why does it say it?".
Many will read it. Thinking that because they are experts at taking things out of context, they will gain ammo.
Others will because you have control of the argument, and they have to if they want to argue back.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 20:21:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 15:33:28 ago (+0/-0)
Now perhaps you will tell us if you feel at liberty to murder, steal, lie, cheat, commit adultery, worship other gods or transgress any other of the commandments?
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 15:55:13 ago (+0/-0)
Simply put, no, we are not at liberty to murder, steal, lie, cheat, commit adultery, worship other gods.
Now with that being said, stop seeking to put us under the law, yourself included, and come to understand the doctrine of Christ and the law of Christ, that is summed up in two commandments;
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
And Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Jesus is our rest, he is our sabbath, there is no more keeping of the ceremonial portions of the law.
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 16:18:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 16:25:51 ago (+0/-0)
You can't have it both ways, judaiser.
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 16:48:28 ago (+0/-0)
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[ + ] purityspiral
[ - ] purityspiral 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:15:36 ago (+0/-0)
That's fucking cruel shit right there.
Sounds like it was conceived by a human. That is the totality of my argument.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 03:56:17 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] purityspiral
[ - ] purityspiral 0 points 7 monthsOct 9, 2023 09:37:02 ago (+0/-0)*
Please don't assume what I desire, I am not stating that I wish the nature of punishment to change for any offender, I am stating that it seem a tad odd that the reaction of a God is so very much like that of a Jilted lover or betrayed father. I don't think It's genuine, that's my gripe, I think it's a rebranded "from God".
The concept of God to me is higher than such things as nations. I ain't buyin it is all. Not advocating for any of the bastards in the pit.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 7 monthsOct 9, 2023 11:30:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] purityspiral
[ - ] purityspiral 0 points 7 monthsOct 10, 2023 08:35:58 ago (+0/-0)
I'm making an accusation.
try to keep up
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 7 monthsOct 10, 2023 12:11:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] purityspiral
[ - ] purityspiral 0 points 7 monthsOct 13, 2023 07:40:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:18:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] purityspiral
[ - ] purityspiral 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:19:52 ago (+1/-0)
I'm talking about believing that God is benevolent but creates things that he hates.
Who put that thought in my head if you only have the 2 choices?
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:30:50 ago (+1/-0)
2 Timothy 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
Are you asking because you don't know? If you do not know, then it is possible it's not of you, no?
Is it really so far fetched that thoughts can be placed in your mind?
[ + ] purityspiral
[ - ] purityspiral 1 point 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 01:45:39 ago (+1/-0)*
The only need I see being fulfilled by those words are the human desire for revenge against any and all who have somehow slighted them. That's a human thing.
The 2nd part is just how I clumsily attempt to make a point about inquisitiveness not being synonymous with evil or deceptive practices (which I abhor). Why would that be needed? Because when I ask those questions, the notions are often demonized, but rarely addressed.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 04:02:29 ago (+0/-0)
There are a lot of things that God does and thinks that may 'seem' like a human thing, we were made in the image of God. But his ways are higher than ours, his thoughts higher than ours.
This just kinda seems like a universal thing to me.
[ + ] purityspiral
[ - ] purityspiral 0 points 7 monthsOct 9, 2023 09:35:34 ago (+0/-0)
This leads me to suspect the real source is the usual suspects.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 9, 2023 15:52:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] purityspiral
[ - ] purityspiral 0 points 7 monthsOct 10, 2023 08:33:08 ago (+0/-0)
Why should distrusting religious men, make God despise me?
[ + ] Smedleys_Butler
[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 0 points 7 monthsOct 8, 2023 13:04:09 ago (+0/-0)