[ - ] symbolic 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 14:56:11 ago (+1/-0)
With the trade bots, why not set up an adversarial training environment for the two bots; Avalanche vs litecoin? Getting out from wage slavery is the only way.
[ - ] x0x7 [op] 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 15:10:09 ago (+1/-0)
Interesting. I guess I'm not fully sure how you would structure that. Basically I'm currently training multiple separate bots so they operate in parallel. Diversification and all that. Those two bots are just my best trained. Other ones are from an experiment of finding lag correlations and then using some training to try to knock back redundant signals. They suck. Basically way too little emphasis on training.
But they are really trading avalanche/tether and litecoin/tether. Or would. The litecoin one isn't up yet. But the goal is really to have about 30 of these things.
[ - ] symbolic 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 15:34:01 ago (+1/-0)
Now, im coming from RL, RNN, LSTM, and that shit. So; pardon me if i sound like a massing faggot here. Take the difference of the last trades of the 2 robots as your feed value, going to the winner. If you trade at a loss, that is the hurt value for said robo-bitch.
Interesting. So an RL approach. Maybe just like the GPTs all used supervised and are now fine-tuning with RL, maybe I could do something like that.
I guess maybe that's a better scoring system. Don't just perform. Perform better than what other bots can get me in the same period.
It's an interesting idea to put several separated supervise learning AIs into a zoo.
Honestly I'm trying to figure out if an RL approach is better even from the ground up for this. The issue is that predicting future prices and acting on it is not as clear cut as it seems. There is intricacy in measuring the performance of a trade in that sure it's good if something you bought is more valuable a day from now, but what of 48 hours from then, what of an hour from then. How does a trade affect outcomes within a concert of trades. Did it compete with the capacity to make another more valuable trade. Did it aid in making other trades.
It gets gritty when you actually try to measure performance of each trade and generate a real number for it and you realize some of the slight logical flaws on simply acting on what a projected price will be. So an outcome based approach might be better completely. That's RL territory.
I'm interested in building my own trading bot. Can you help me with any pointers to get started? I can program and self-teach and have some basic understanding of models, so not looking for hand holding just a good starting point, recommended platforms, etc
[ - ] x0x7 [op] 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 17:35:15 ago (+1/-0)
ccxt is your friend. It is a library written in pretty much every language that can interoperate with pretty much every trading platforms API in a uniform way. Personally I'm using javascript. I have my own AI library for training that uses C with the N-API (node bindings). But it works all the same no matter where you are. Series of matrix multiplications with some ReLU activation functions in between. Back propagate it.
Do I 100% know what I'm doing yet? No. That's what I'm figuring out. If I did I wouldn't be going to work.
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[ - ] x0x7 [op] 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 15:10:09 ago (+1/-0)
But they are really trading avalanche/tether and litecoin/tether. Or would. The litecoin one isn't up yet. But the goal is really to have about 30 of these things.
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I guess maybe that's a better scoring system. Don't just perform. Perform better than what other bots can get me in the same period.
It's an interesting idea to put several separated supervise learning AIs into a zoo.
Honestly I'm trying to figure out if an RL approach is better even from the ground up for this. The issue is that predicting future prices and acting on it is not as clear cut as it seems. There is intricacy in measuring the performance of a trade in that sure it's good if something you bought is more valuable a day from now, but what of 48 hours from then, what of an hour from then. How does a trade affect outcomes within a concert of trades. Did it compete with the capacity to make another more valuable trade. Did it aid in making other trades.
It gets gritty when you actually try to measure performance of each trade and generate a real number for it and you realize some of the slight logical flaws on simply acting on what a projected price will be. So an outcome based approach might be better completely. That's RL territory.
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[ - ] x0x7 [op] 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 17:35:15 ago (+1/-0)
Do I 100% know what I'm doing yet? No. That's what I'm figuring out. If I did I wouldn't be going to work.
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[ - ] mannerbund 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 17:39:23 ago (+1/-0)
Good find on this one
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[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 19:06:31 ago (+0/-0)
Protocols were right about humans, in general.
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[ - ] x0x7 [op] 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 9, 2024 21:18:25 ago (+1/-0)
Launch t-shirt drop shipping company and integrate with chatGPT
Add a subdomain to gvid to do AI chat