If the author actually read the book he will know the right to vote is not a reward for military service. Veterans had the right to vote because they have demonstrated that they are willing to put the welfare of society above their own.
Also, in the novel, if you want to enlist, they MUST accept you- regardless of your physical status. If you can't run because you've got some incurable condition, they will still find a job that you can do. The military goes to great lengths to accommodate this. That said, in order to get into the elite unit of Mobile Infantry (who wear kickass mech suits in the novel), you have to be a physical specimen who can train hard.
People mistake it as fascist for very surface level reasons. In both the novel and film, after the commander of the military launches the first attack on the bug's home planet which goes disastrously, the commander resigns from his position and allows a successor to step in his place. The government also seems very transparent and honest.
What the flying fuck does fascism have to do with honesty or resigning from jobs?
Fascism is a rigid and militaristic form of govt that trains the upcoming generation to kill the communists.
It is a DEFENSIVE POSTURE OF SURVIVAL.
When you have a country of 47 million people and your enemy has a population of 168 million, Then you get word that they are developing an army that will consume your country like tidal waves washing over a beach....
YOU DEVELOP FASCISM
This is how it happened and why it exists.
Fascism is a rigid and militaristic structure of society and govt so that you can train the youth to fight and kill the communists. To have any hope of survival you need your elite troops to kill 10-1 for you to have any chance at all.
They need to be hardcore dudes.
Fascism is beautiful and the perfect society. It doesn't have anything to do with honestly, morals, or even ethics.
The thing about that movie that I don't understand is, Why didn't they just send rockets to the bug planet that released copious amounts of RAID? Orkin could have gotten rid of the bugs, with significantly less loss of human life...
also the fact that people have to live there afterwards and leftovers doses of RAID aren't great for human health either. imagine being sent to the new colony only to be told the air and water is DDT
Have you heard of the anime called "appleseed"? I've heard it's heavily based on the novel, I haven't gotten around to checking it out.
I read the novel after the movie and I was so disappointed to learn that we should've had power-armored soldiers leaping around and flinging bombs all over the place. We got soldiers that look like they're dressed to be a James Bond villain's henchmen army.
In the book it is explained that the elite troops dropping down to a planet could TAKE OVER THE PLANET in less than a single night.
So less than 6-12 hours depending on the planet.
The armor with it's jumpsuit capability allowed them to move through cities at night so fast the security or military gaurding the city had little to no chance of fighting them or sometimes even seeing them.
The had grenades that mocked their enemy before killing them.
Armor that plugged directly into their nervous system and could reanimate their dead bodies
They just didn't need rocket at all.
There was no enemy they could not defeat, until they met the bugs.
Interesting! Pity Hollywood didn't weave that into the movie story-line, Maybe, introduce it as a prototype, that wouldn't be ready for "prime time", maybe have the prototype save one of the main characters.
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[ + ] BloodyComet
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People mistake it as fascist for very surface level reasons. In both the novel and film, after the commander of the military launches the first attack on the bug's home planet which goes disastrously, the commander resigns from his position and allows a successor to step in his place. The government also seems very transparent and honest.
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Fascism is a rigid and militaristic form of govt that trains the upcoming generation to kill the communists.
It is a DEFENSIVE POSTURE OF SURVIVAL.
When you have a country of 47 million people and your enemy has a population of 168 million, Then you get word that they are developing an army that will consume your country like tidal waves washing over a beach....
YOU DEVELOP FASCISM
This is how it happened and why it exists.
Fascism is a rigid and militaristic structure of society and govt so that you can train the youth to fight and kill the communists. To have any hope of survival you need your elite troops to kill 10-1 for you to have any chance at all.
They need to be hardcore dudes.
Fascism is beautiful and the perfect society. It doesn't have anything to do with honestly, morals, or even ethics.
It's a position of survival.
A societal position of endurance.
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Sargon of Akkad's take is worth watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpYvV0O7uI
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I read the novel after the movie and I was so disappointed to learn that we should've had power-armored soldiers leaping around and flinging bombs all over the place. We got soldiers that look like they're dressed to be a James Bond villain's henchmen army.
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So less than 6-12 hours depending on the planet.
The armor with it's jumpsuit capability allowed them to move through cities at night so fast the security or military gaurding the city had little to no chance of fighting them or sometimes even seeing them.
The had grenades that mocked their enemy before killing them.
Armor that plugged directly into their nervous system and could reanimate their dead bodies
They just didn't need rocket at all.
There was no enemy they could not defeat, until they met the bugs.
Thats what the book was about.
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