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[ - ] CoronaHoax 11 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 07:15:06 ago (+11/-0)

If you install windows you have to opt out of your shit being sent to microsoft like 12 times before you’re using the computer. This isn’t an exaggeration.

It acts and behaves like its whole product is just to spy on you. As if you bought it for that reason.

[ - ] TheNoticing 9 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 10:31:45 ago (+9/-0)

I bet it does it anyway.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 15:01:48 ago (+0/-0)

It does. People have checked it's in/out traffic. The only way to stop it is to block it with another machine, usually your router.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 23:47:21 ago (+0/-0)

Or just disconnect it from the webbertubes

[ - ] GreenSaint 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 17:24:28 ago (+0/-0)

It’s really annoying with most technology these days how they want it all connected. I just wanna buy some shit and use it. They’re link it here turn this off lalalal. Everytime

[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 17:52:13 ago (+0/-0)

That's not how it is for anything open source initially meant for linux. The two worlds are so different it's inconscionable.

[ - ] LostWhale 8 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 07:50:09 ago (+8/-0)

God, I've been thinking about this so much lately and the crux of it is... Computers and computer programs haven't progressed or improved one bit since the early 2000's. Every program works worse has less functionality with more bloat, new outlook, case in point. Consumers literally have gotten to the point where they demand and want nothing. Everyone's just totally complacent with dogshit and it's totally fucking wild. Seriously this is the moment where people that have spent their lives in these fields should be working on successors, and it doesn't seem to be happening.

[ - ] InYourFaceNancyGrace 4 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 10:29:30 ago (+4/-0)

Computers and computer programs haven't progressed or improved one bit since the early 2000's. Every program works worse has less functionality with more bloat, new outlook, case in point

There's a saying in Microsoft Product Development: "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!"

[ - ] Monica 4 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 11:00:21 ago (+4/-0)

What people don't realize about the 'broken' programs is that microsoft puts backdoors in the software on purpose. They patch those backdoors when hackers (hackers unrelated to microsoft or the government microsoft is working with) find them. The patches disable the old backdoor and creates a new one. The cycle will never end. It's not a bug it's a feature. That's what I think and in my mind it's real.

[ - ] InYourFaceNancyGrace 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 11:59:32 ago (+0/-0)

What people don't realize about the 'broken' programs is that microsoft puts backdoors in the software on purpose

There's probably some of that, but I'm certain it's a balance of time, incompetence, and malice (greed, if you want to put it more kindly).

When shipping time comes, all the security testing you've done is all that you're going to do. As programs become more complex, full security testing with a team of less than infinity people becomes virtually impossible. If your team missed some obscure exploit... oh well, we'll push a patch if/when it's found. Basically every video game after Pong! has some exploit... and even Pong! had a defect (paddles couldn't go all the way to the sides). And video games operate much the same ways these days now that everything's online (and video games are so much more complex).

Then there's incompetence. Not every programmer is your best, and your best programmer doesn't have time to go over all the others' code. So you're going to get some subpar stuff that slips through.

Then there's malice and/or greed - what you're discussing. The NSA (and MS and whoever else) want all the data they can consume. Name your price, skim some of that profit to assuage any ethical concerns your programmers might have in building the back door (or just have management push a specific vulnerable design feature and allow nothing else), and push the product with the known bug/vulnerability.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 09:08:22 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 17:52:56 ago (+0/-0)

A lot of open source is doing a lot better. But how much better did it need to be doing?

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 23:50:01 ago (+0/-0)

I noticed this with cell service in the US when I was allowed out of Australian tyranny prison.

Everyone was paying 100 dollar cell phone bills. And I used to pay 5 bucks a month for mine with data.

The response was that's how it is here. They've just given up and don't care as long as they aren't inconvenienced.

[ - ] texasblood 2 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 07:04:40 ago (+2/-0)

Who uses windows?
Well fuck then!,you deserve it if you do.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 15:05:42 ago (+0/-0)

Who uses windows?

People who aren't techies, people who are techies who work in that environment for monies, people who aren't techies but are faggots artists, etc etc.

[ - ] velocityraptor 2 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 08:44:49 ago (+2/-0)

That's a livestream

[ - ] Dingo 2 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 11:27:19 ago (+2/-0)

I'm not affiliated in any way with this distribution, but do reccomend it for windows or mac switchers because it has a great hardware driver set on the install iso and the "New User" helper apps are great. You will rarely have to use the command line (they made script desktop apps for admin stuff).

https://mxlinux.org/download-links/

Check below on the page for how to create a USB boot disk and all that.

If anyone wants help, feel free to hit me up.

[ - ] SocksOnCats 2 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 12:10:18 ago (+2/-0)

Wouldn't there be a way to block this using maybe a Raspberry Pi? I know you can shut down certain IP addresses very effectively with a Pi. Couldn't you do the same here? Any tech people can weigh in on this?

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 15:03:36 ago (+0/-0)

I know you can shut down certain IP addresses very effectively with a Pi

You can do it straight on your router. No Pi needed.

[ - ] uvulectomy 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 17:05:37 ago (+0/-0)

Run a Pi as your DNS, and those requests never even reach your router.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 17:15:28 ago (+0/-0)

But you are going to have to aggressively update the server lists as long as you have the product installed.
Microsoft has been dealing with host list and routers as long as they've had product licenses...
The fact is, they're going to get ahead of you regularly; it's just a matter of how fast you can block the new server instances.

[ - ] uvulectomy 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 21:41:04 ago (+0/-0)

The fact is, they're going to get ahead of you regularly; it's just a matter of how fast you can block the new server instances.

So how does a router that needs to be manually updated make it better? My Pi sits in the corner with regularly updated lists and I never have to think about it. I also don't use the abomination known as Windows 11.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 22:09:36 ago (+0/-0)*

The difference between the availability of ad-blocking lists and those trying to disable the OS 'core' functionality being discussed is stark.
You're either going to have to pray someone more invested sets up one for you - and that you can easily learn about it or incorporate it into your existing solution - or you're going to have to take the burden upon yourself.
You're also going to have to accept that in terms of privacy policy and the invasiveness of Microsoft behavioral surveillance, the functional line between Win 10 and 11 is exceptionally fine at this point - currently loosely delineated by the use of a Microsoft account.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 19:12:30 ago (+0/-0)

I mean, if you want to spend money on a new piece of hardware you need to keep track of and regularly update. I prefer tech to be invisible as much as possible.

[ - ] uvulectomy 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 21:39:51 ago (+0/-0)

I mean, if you want to spend money on a new piece of hardware you need to keep track of and regularly update. I prefer tech to be invisible as much as possible.

Mine sits in a corner, quietly doing its job, updating itself as needed. The only reason I ever actually login to the thing is because I have a couple other things running on it as well.

[ - ] 2plus2equals5 2 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 19:56:47 ago (+2/-0)

SOPA laws apply to stealing media and proprietary information without paying for it. $250k and 5 years in prison. Per incident.
No commercial or personal benefit required.

And internet stalking is a federal crime.

It's time to enforce the laws on the books.

[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 06:33:59 ago (+1/-0)

Whos is using Edge?

[ - ] ButtToucha9000 2 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 12:19:09 ago (+2/-0)

You can't delete it. Its REQUIRED now. They tied all kind of shit into it so it's os critical so even if you delete it it doesn't really delete. I tried.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 22:45:32 ago (+0/-0)

I don't get the fork debates.
If you want chrome, run chrome.
If you want chromium, any of them will work.
In the end, they're all google anyway.

[ - ] Prairie 1 point 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 07:34:20 ago (+1/-0)

Don't worry, they'll be encrypted. So you can't tell that they are being sent to Microsoft data centers.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 08:39:56 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 11:23:48 ago (+0/-0)

CPU level

[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 11:16:37 ago (+1/-0)

No doubt they put those pictures in an AI and obtain information out of them.

This is a massive security risk, if you deal with sensitive information, now you have something insecurely copying that information and sending it across the Internet.

They'll claim it secure, yet they claim windows is secure.

[ - ] clymer 1 point 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 11:42:46 ago (+1/-0)

For personal use, I am using Ubuntu, with brave browser and the torguard vpn. If I want to do any web activity that requires anonymity, the brave browser has native tor private window. Are there better distros out there? no doubt, but the Ubuntu footprint is big enough to offer applications for anything you need.

[ - ] ButtToucha9000 1 point 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 12:20:12 ago (+1/-0)

The nsa owns 60% of all tor exit nodes

[ - ] I_am_baal 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 13:47:38 ago (+0/-0)

And when they really want to nab someone, they triple their exit node count for a few hours. It's wild, and I've seen it happen.

[ - ] ButtToucha9000 1 point 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 12:21:43 ago (+1/-0)

This will completely end anny windows operations for any government or large Corp. Seems like a bad move.

[ - ] Greskibon 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 15:07:23 ago (+0/-0)

There's an enterprise version of windows without a lot of the invasive shit. I still wouldn't trust it, but that's how they market it to companies.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 1 point 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 17:55:18 ago (+1/-0)*

lol not my windows PC :)

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 11 monthsMay 22, 2024 00:10:56 ago (+1/-0)

If I had a dime for every time someone made a wish.com Spotlight...

[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 1 point 11 monthsMay 22, 2024 00:31:43 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] Sector2 [op] 0 points 11 monthsMay 22, 2024 00:49:32 ago (+0/-0)

Hopefully I can stay on Windows 10 and only use that computer for the steam games.

[ - ] Sal_180 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 05:52:22 ago (+1/-1)

Don't like it, don't use it. I doubt many people here uses windows

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 11 monthsMay 21, 2024 17:12:55 ago (+0/-0)*

If you don't sign in to your Microsoft account, you have not accepted their global ToS.
For the moment, this is their lynchpin.
Local accounts are not subject to their AI and Copilot surveillance yet.