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Been using nicotine pouches. Gotta say, pretty impressed.

submitted by PeckerwoodPerry to whatever 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 13:39:10 ago (+24/-1)     (whatever)

There's been a big native advertising campaign for the company zyn, and I fell for it. To give a little context, I was smoking about a pack and a half a day. I'm down to a pack every four days.

The feeling of these pouches with nicotine salts are radically different than cigarettes. I've noticed improved focus, less stress, and less overall anxiety. It wouldn't be a stretch to call it an antidepressant. I just feel better, healthier.

Incidentally, I've also been drinking a raw juice every day. I do two apples, about 14 grams of raw beet, maybe six small carrots, ginger if I have it, turmeric, and the juice of a whole lime.

Long story short, I feel like I have super powers. I'm more productive, I'm sleeping better, probably because I'm breathing better, and just overall I have a sense of general well being.

Really thinking about quitting smoking for the first time in 30 years. I don't think I need it anymore. Just thought I'd share with y'all.


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[ - ] Anus_Expander 6 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 13:54:38 ago (+6/-0)

I quit cigs about 8 years ago. 2 years later I started again for a month, then switched to vaping. With vapes I have zero bad effects. Cigs were awful, never again.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:01:50 ago (+2/-0)

I switched to Jewel for about six months before I got married. It gave me a weird sore on my lip. Best guess is that it was unsanitary for me to be sucking on this thing that was bouncing around in my pocket all day.

Day before I got married I got super stressed and bought a pack of smokes, and that brings us to the present.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:06:18 ago (+2/-0)

Juul was my first vape, but the SMOK Novo is far better. Refilling it is also much cheaper. Watermelon ice salt nic is my shit. I vape everywhere, even on planes, no one knows.

After quitting cigs, I felt so much better...better sleep, more energy in the morning. No more coughing, or waking up at 3 am just to smoke. I would also stop in the middle of banging my ex-wife JUST TO HAVE A SMOKE. Fuckin retarded addiction.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:11:00 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah see, I feel like I might be in that honeymoon phase from reducing my smoking 75%>

I'm gonna steam on this current trajectory, seems like it's working pretty well.

[ - ] MichaelStewart 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 02:01:38 ago (+1/-0)

Zyn is sweetened with aspartame

Nic Nacs instead

[ - ] 9000timesempty 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 17:50:34 ago (+1/-0)

Juul gave me nicotine poisoning and $100k hospital bill. Unconscious for over a day. THEN it happened again. No more nicotine vapes for me. Been nicotine free since though.

[ - ] observation1 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 19:10:13 ago (+0/-0)

doubt theres such a thing. You probably inhaled carcinogens of some sort.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 05:51:02 ago (+0/-0)

ummmm you're not supposed to EAT the pods, Homer

[ - ] KangzNSheeit 4 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:51:08 ago (+4/-0)

I quit cold turkey decades ago because I'm not a faggot. You should try it.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 16:14:45 ago (+1/-0)

Nah, I'll pouchfag until I get sick of that. It's better than a pack a day of $12/pack smokes.

[ - ] Salacious_Salicylic 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 08:41:25 ago (+0/-0)

Being a cheapass is what got me to stop smoking.

I want to find a small grower that doesn't spray a bunch of shit on their plants and try smoking that.

[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 13:54:43 ago (+3/-0)

I've been wanting to switch from cigs back to the old pipe. It smells better.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 3 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 13:59:16 ago (+3/-0)

See, I've thought about switching to a pipe in the past. You run into real problems when you work a job with 5 minute cigarette breaks. That's barely enough time to pack and tamp a proper pipe, let alone smoke on it for a half hour.

I like cigars when I know I'm gonna be outside for an hour or more. Pipe smoking just doesn't fit my lifestyle yet.

[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:03:28 ago (+3/-0)

Yeah, that is why I had switched to cigarettes in the first place. But now, since I only smoke when I am on the boat with a friendly ethanol, cigars or the pipe are much more ideal! Then I'll clearly need a proper smoking jacket, and more fine leatherbound books aboard to read pompously as I relax.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:08:01 ago (+2/-0)

Leather Bound books are an addiction unto themselves.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:09:56 ago (+1/-0)

Is it still an addiction when it is something as wholesome as leatherbound books?

[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:23:18 ago (+2/-0)

Collection and addiction are interchangeable...depends on your perspective.

[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:28:15 ago (+2/-0)

*adds this factotum to my collection...

[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 15:11:55 ago (+2/-0)

Aww, I'm honored.

[ - ] Not_a_redfugee 3 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 13:51:25 ago (+3/-0)

Cool dude. Stick with it, then taper off all nicotine

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:03:43 ago (+2/-0)

I'm not sure I have a problem with nicotine. I've got other habits that are arguably worse, and straight nicotine seems to improve my life. I know that's how all the really good addictions start, but I can honestly use the help right now.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 19:30:29 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] NoRefunds 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 17:03:48 ago (+2/-0)

IDK man, just quit smoking.

I used to smoke 1-2 packs a day for a long long time. I quit cold turkey in 2015.

I was out with some friends a few months ago and one of them had I think 6mg zyn... I had it in my mouth probably 1 min and I got so fucked up and could barely get the stupid thing out of my mouth. I pretty much passed out after that.

Basically, those mother fuckers are strong as shit, so you're getting a MASSIVE amount of chemicals from it.

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:33:17 ago (+2/-0)*

You might as well main-line liquid nicotine directly into your skull.

You are getting 2x-10x the nicotine compared to standard E-cigs / Vapes... AND IT IS PASSING THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIERS IN FAR LARGER QUANTIIES.

Research on nicotine salts is limited.[3] Possible health risks of persistent inhalation of high levels of nicotine salts are not known.[3] "Juul products use nicotine salts, which can lead to much more available nicotine," Principal Deputy Director Dr. Anne Schuchat of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stated in September 2019.[4] She also stated that the nicotine salts "cross the blood brain barrier and lead to potentially more effect on the developing brain in adolescents."[4]

Advertisements state nicotine salt liquids contain 2 to 10 times more nicotine than those found in the majority of regular e-cigarette products.[17]

-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_salt

Using it to quit smoking and save your lungs is fantastic, but you will still have to deal with the withdrawal systems of even higher amounts of nicotine if you ever attempt to totally quit.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 16:19:13 ago (+2/-0)

I'm ok with that. My lungs are happier and my mood is better.

I haven't seen any research that say nicotine is bad, just tobacco. Maybe it's cope, but I've placed it in the same category as caffeine for right now.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 20:59:26 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Jimmycrackerson 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:09:53 ago (+2/-0)

I like the ones called Rogue. They seem more potent than zyn. Cost less, and each can has 20 pouches instead of 15. Zyn tastes better though.

There's a brand from Sweden called Pablo Escabar. It's got 50mg nicotine instead of 6. Per pouch. Typical 10 hour workday, I might occasionally surpass 50mg of nicotine total from pouches. So I don't know what kind of person needs 50mg. But I thought I'd throw that out there.

And yes, the level of focus is definitely increased. I have strong focus as it is, when I want to. But the pouches add another level.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 16:13:16 ago (+0/-0)

I got a rouge today because there's a shortage on zyn. I like it too, the flavor is a little stronger, but fuck if I won't take it if there's a shortage on the 6mg zyn.

[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 13:42:26 ago (+2/-0)

Zyns are very addictive but much healthier than cigarettes. You'll definitely be able to quit smoking on Zyns, they are very powerful. Funny enough I never got addicted to smoking even after enjoying casually but did get very addicted to zyns.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 13:45:36 ago (+1/-0)

I can definitely see that. Like vaping, you don't have to go outside to do it. Unlike vaping, you can do it without anyone knowing. It doesn't have the same culture that ecigs has developed. It can be something about you that nobody knows about. It's cheaper though, and I agree it's definitely more healthy.

[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 15:35:05 ago (+1/-0)

They have yet to prove anything unhealthy about Zyns that isn't directly related to nicotine which is a plus

[ - ] VitaminSieg 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 01:05:35 ago (+1/-0)

Nicotine is actually good for you. Some niggerfaggot posted a sciency post about it here a month or two ago.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 22:38:44 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 01:03:43 ago (+1/-0)

I’ve been juicing for years. Wheatgrass as well. Smoke about a pack a week of American Spirit. I don’t even like to smoke much. Used to smoke over a pack a day of Camel. The juicing is where it’s at. Keep it up, I’m glad you’re on that path!

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 11:50:25 ago (+1/-0)

Same. Used to smoke camels, switched to American spirit. I used to juice regularly but for some reason got away from it. Been doing it about every other day for the past two weeks.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 21:45:34 ago (+0/-0)

Right on!

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 18:20:42 ago (+1/-0)

Max Gerson, who cured cancer and a thousand other uncurable diseases in the 1930's, believed that pressed apple/carrot juice had some major synergistic benefits.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:45:25 ago (+1/-0)

Looks like you're a candidate of the method I used to quit. Get addicted to the pouch/gum. To the point that you prefer it over the cig. Takes about 90 days.

Then drop the cig. Then, before you get too addicted to the new delivery method, slowly start weaning yourself off of it by using progressively lower doses. Eventually, about 90 days, you'll have such a low dose that you could drop it in a long weekend.

Do that. Take a long weekend, shut yourself away from people, be a grumpy asshole to yourself for 3-4 days, and come out a free man. Caffeine can help at this stage.

Good luck on your journey, you'll be a healthier man for it.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 16:16:21 ago (+1/-0)

I think that's the right idea.

Ultimately I don't want this shit, but it is a performance enhancement drug, and that's a valuable asset right now.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 17:59:34 ago (+1/-0)

You can get away from it, and do better without it. Right now you're dependent upon it however, so take it slow when removing it from your system. Eating right, sleeping right, working out, not doing drugs, etc. All are on the path to freedom and happiness.

[ - ] OoklaTheMok 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:24:59 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks, Perry. I'm going to give it a shot.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:01:30 ago (+1/-0)

Vaping helped me quit.
Worked well.

[ - ] CasualObserver 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 20:57:28 ago (+1/-0)

Doesn't it suck to look gay though?

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 02:03:42 ago (+1/-0)*

Stopped in 2019, that narrative hadn't set in yet.
I went from a pack a day for fifteen years to vaping for an additional five years to not having any nicotine for almost five now.
It worked for me and I don't regret it.

[ - ] White_Pride_Cis 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 00:16:59 ago (+0/-0)

I’ve been using them to quit chew. Not the greatest, but it’s getting me by

[ - ] Scyber 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 23:19:15 ago (+0/-0)

I don't smoke cigs or use any tobacco but I bought a can of 6mg Zyn last month and pretty sure had a nicotine overdose.
Within minutes of using it I started sweating profusely and felt sick. I spit out the juice & still felt bad until I spit that pouch out & puked.
Felt nauseated for about an hour until I laid down and went to sleep.
I can smoke weed all day and have a few drinks yet never feel bad and rarely get hungover because I know my limits. I've dipped before and never got sick like that because Zyns are pretty much straight up lab made nicotine.
0/10 wouldn't recommend unless you're a nico junkie.

[ - ] PearofAnguishJuniorManager 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 19:23:02 ago (+0/-0)

Do they make a patch for jello cups? Cause I consume more than my share.

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 16:48:52 ago (+0/-0)

That's what i get with vaping. You get nicotine benefits without, basically, any immediate downside. Now, I know people are going to say I will get cancer, and that's probably true. That's why I say immediate downside.

Whether to use nicotine at all is a complicated decision, but vaping is infinitely better than smoking for your health.

[ - ] Imperivm 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 16:33:22 ago (+0/-0)


At least differentiate cigarettes from cigars, cigarettes are bad, cigars are not. You guys really seem stupid in Voat, you follow the entire jewish anti-tobacco narrative. You don't know how to penetrate layers, you are at the lowest level of Judea, and you are as stupid as the npcs officials, worse than the niggers in IQ

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 16:50:48 ago (+0/-0)

Cigars will give you mouth and throat cancer readily, if not as readily as cigarettes.

It's not really an anti-tobacco narrative; it's an anti-smoking narrative. Since smoking other things is no better.

[ - ] con77 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2024 14:57:44 ago (+0/-0)

I quit after 30 years using the patch and the gum. Which I got for free from the VA.

The bad news? I had the occasional craving for over 5 years.

I'm now 12 years smoke free. It's the most important thing you can do for your health.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2024 01:12:52 ago (+0/-0)

Not free from the VA. Paid for by me and everyone else who has a job. Nothing is free.