"Lost" bible books are for people who don't believe in God, because God already put together the required text and made it mainstream. Most of the available apocrypha has proven to be complete dribble, some of it even being anti Christ in nature and fraudulent. The other books that don't fit in the previous category are those that don't appear to be inspired or are irrelevant.
Sorry if I don't take councils of men as Approved Text of the Inspired Word of God Authenticators.
They used Man decided justifications to make their decisions. This is An Appeal to Authority fallacy I cannot abide.
Because even if there is an Approved by God text. Which is it? The Vulgate? The Torah? THE Greek Texts? The KJV? The Ethiopian? The American Standard Edition?
Not to pick a fight with you as everyone decides for themselves what level of acceptable "Good enough for me" fundamentlism tier they take with this decision.
But an Appproved workman is not ashamed. Rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
To me this means I have to work this out with my own wisdom and discernment. Not rely on Appealing to Authority.
What you say is true, but means you do need to do more research. But you have also made a major mistake. If you are not to take the words of man, you must take them direct from God. Good luck. Because 99% of the time God spoke through man. You chosen choices are either dreams or inspiration, or violent death as we aren't supposed to hear his voice directly. And if you go by dreams or inspiration you run the risk of falling victim to non Godly sources.
I do not believe people should decide for themselves though, but people have to find the truth by themselves. There is only one truth.
I used to have both of those books as reprints. They were eye-opening, to say the least. I was aware that there is a great deal of apocrypha and pseudepigrapha, but it's interesting to know exactly what it was.
The old Hebrew and Aramaric scriptures had been knocked around for quite a while, and I simply wasn't interested in jew fable and superstition. The Greek scriptures tend to fall in a few categories: To bolster a group's particular doctrine, to create something to "explain" a gap, such as the infancy gospels of Jesus, or to assert unlikely people were Christians, such as Pontius Pilate. There were a few that were post facto gospels, but mostly written with a Gnostic perspective, such as the Gospel of James.
Even for a non-believer like myself, it's pretty interesting stuff. Bart Ehrman has written a number of books on why some books were considered canonical and which ones were not. Definitely worth a read too.
[ + ] AnmanIndustries
[ - ] AnmanIndustries 3 points 10 monthsJun 7, 2024 02:51:26 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne [op] 2 points 10 monthsJun 7, 2024 13:39:32 ago (+2/-0)*
They used Man decided justifications to make their decisions. This is An Appeal to Authority fallacy I cannot abide.
Because even if there is an Approved by God text. Which is it? The Vulgate? The Torah? THE Greek Texts? The KJV? The Ethiopian? The American Standard Edition?
Not to pick a fight with you as everyone decides for themselves what level of acceptable "Good enough for me" fundamentlism tier they take with this decision.
But an Appproved workman is not ashamed. Rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
To me this means I have to work this out with my own wisdom and discernment. Not rely on Appealing to Authority.
[ + ] AnmanIndustries
[ - ] AnmanIndustries 1 point 10 monthsJun 9, 2024 06:17:09 ago (+1/-0)
I do not believe people should decide for themselves though, but people have to find the truth by themselves. There is only one truth.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 10 monthsJun 6, 2024 21:00:16 ago (+2/-2)
He found lost books written by God's Chosenites too.
DumDumDumDumDum!
[ + ] glooper
[ - ] glooper 1 point 10 monthsJun 6, 2024 19:56:44 ago (+1/-0)
It's an interesting add on to the whole story for sure.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 3 points 10 monthsJun 6, 2024 19:47:02 ago (+3/-0)
The old Hebrew and Aramaric scriptures had been knocked around for quite a while, and I simply wasn't interested in jew fable and superstition. The Greek scriptures tend to fall in a few categories: To bolster a group's particular doctrine, to create something to "explain" a gap, such as the infancy gospels of Jesus, or to assert unlikely people were Christians, such as Pontius Pilate. There were a few that were post facto gospels, but mostly written with a Gnostic perspective, such as the Gospel of James.
Even for a non-believer like myself, it's pretty interesting stuff. Bart Ehrman has written a number of books on why some books were considered canonical and which ones were not. Definitely worth a read too.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne [op] 2 points 10 monthsJun 6, 2024 19:40:13 ago (+2/-0)