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Clientelism is the solution

submitted by conrad to whatever 1 yearJun 11, 2024 13:55:30 ago (+15/-1)     (whatever)

Inspired by an article, I shit you not, about the shire and economy, I want to discuss how that applies to you. (link at the end)

The term we're looking for is 'clientelism'. It's the informal economy of favor-trading among long-term friends and acquaintances.

It occurred to me recently that this is the necessary pre-requisites for militia formation.

Outside of it militias or self-defense forces won't form.

This was also the initial preconditions for national socialism incidentally: party members recruiting local communities into labor-exchanges. At first this was voluntary, but then an element of labor=money was added. This worked for the germans. It also worked for the italians. Even their enemies acknowledge that the trains always ran on time.

No side owns a tactic, however immoral or moral they may be considered by some.

You notice all the revolutionary activities of the left, really the regime, started with what amounted to communes and conclaves.
Remove the drug abuse, dirty hippies, and the peace-love-and-harmony bullshit and all a commune is is a tight knit community that lives together or on restricted premises.

Expand the territory they cover and they become a mutual aid group.
Add a religious element, they become a cult, etc.

But its all variations on the basic premise. Increase density, and you increase the networking, trust-building, and teamwork opportunities.

This is why Waco had to be destroyed. This is also why gated communities are destroyed through forced integration and demographic bloc-busting tactics.

If the u.s. and the west really are heading for balkanization and neo-feudalism, then it would be prudent to form clientelist organizations to defend against the coming chaos.

I assume this has been the real intent behind the back-to-the-land movement that has attracted so many grifters as of late.

The international marxists say "teach the controversy", which really means to push their own narrative of events, but you notice where they do this. At middle-of-the-road meetings, events, and organizational get-togethers, creating a diffuse environment with few dominant messages, so theres room for them to spread their own. To win, the national populists will have to do the same.

People need space to get used to new ideas and become comfortable and firm in expressing them, especially when first introduced to ideas they've been propagandized against their whole lives. Thats the idea behind 'safe spaces', a misnomer thats not about creating room for all ideas to be safely expressed, but about having the control necessary to exclude other ideas.

The idea of tightknit artificial communities works because it provides all these things. Additionally it creates the preconditions for getting to know people, helping to eliminate the infiltrator element simply because few of the 'people' who are extreme enough to try infiltrating can keep up the charade for long, owing to how neurotic most of them are, they're an element to always be on the lookout for, for those moments where they slip up and out their true beliefs.

A community like this, or organization formed to establish one, at least on the surface, must be politically moderate but separatist in its premise, to weed out the half-hearted, and form the space necessary to cultivate core beliefs in its members.
Think of it as a bootcamp, but for ideology. Maybe thats an extreme example.

As others said, you won't convince people of anything, when the political power in the u.s. is primarily centered on the elderly and middle aged who rely on air conditioning, supermarket grocieries, and their pensions. You can't convince people to make a change who don't want things to change and who are propagandized to believe things won't change.

Contrary to popular belief, the collapse will not come "like the soviet union, in a wink of the eye."
Thats counter-propaganda, because if we didn't believe that, the next thing populists would do is to start telling people look at all the change around you, its gonna change in ways you don't like, and as you can see, it already is. Are you gonna wait around for it to change irreversibly and lose everything in the process?

And thats a message the regime can't tolerate. Hence the "two more weeks" meme, and the constant "alt news" (u.s. state department propaganda outfits) pumping out constant questions and partial information about events that lead us to believe the collapse could happen "any day now" all across the news and internet.

The solution is to first form tight knit communities based on private associations and organizations (so we control who is allowed in and who isn't and its not a free-for-all where any disruptors can just waltz-in publicly). And from there convert them to mutual-aid-societies based on clientelism. And then from there do community-problem-solving wherever we operate, rewarding rank and merit, and ultimately laborvalue based on the volunteer labors of party members, shifting to an hours+skills+outcomes=value model, much like the nationalists have done throughout history.

And from there anything is possible.
The grifters accidentally showed us the correct path. This is the model, this is the way.
This way, and not some other way.


link for reference:
https://nathangoldwag.wordpress.com/2024/05/31/the-moral-economy-of-the-shire/


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[ - ] SumerBreeze 3 points 1 yearJun 11, 2024 14:22:40 ago (+3/-0)

Add a religious element, they become a cult

Oof.

The worst cults have no religion. You’d think that people here were aware of the Bolshevik jews and what they did - and their tireless campaign against Christ and religion.

OP a sneaky kikenigger?

[ - ] conrad [op] 2 points 1 yearJun 11, 2024 14:26:58 ago (+3/-1)

"The worst cults have no religion. You’d think that people here were aware of the Bolshevik jews and what they did - and their tireless campaign against Christ and religion."

Wrong. Marxism has all the hallmarks of religion. The two-minutes-of-hate they implement is a form of worship.
All the die-hard marxists show the hallmarks of true belief. They believe in a higher power, the party. They have ideology.
Many of them are brainwashed enough to die for their beliefs.

And no, not a kikenigger.

What I've seen is grifters trying to co-opt what was prior a organic movement, while "promoting" it. The reason they are doing this is obvious: the movement is a threat.

[ - ] SumerBreeze -1 points 1 yearJun 11, 2024 14:35:10 ago (+1/-2)

Clientelism is a religion.

[ - ] conrad [op] 6 points 1 yearJun 11, 2024 14:44:53 ago (+7/-1)

Clientelism is a form of economic organization.
Religion is a form of social organization.

Thats the extent of their comparison.

Do you have a problem with religion or do you have a problem with clientelism? Cut to the chase and write what you're thinking.

[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1 yearJun 11, 2024 22:18:08 ago (+0/-0)

Every organized religion has their own tithing and distribution system - it is arguably also a form of economic organization.

Why does your post still smell like a kike herring?

[ - ] conrad [op] 1 point 1 yearJun 11, 2024 22:19:23 ago (+1/-0)

"Why does your post still smell like a kike herring?"

because you're a schizophrenic tribemember probably, and you're threatened by the ideas contained in this post.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 1 yearJun 11, 2024 14:38:47 ago (+2/-1)

against christ

Marx was simply updating christianity to the 20th century and said many times that he drew a lot of inspiration from it. You should be religious, but you should not get your religion from jewish books that tell you jews deserve to rule the world through debt slavery (deuter 15:6).

Part of the reason the Nazis were so successful is because they were the biggest Pagan revivalists of the 20th century, with many mystics exploring spirituality outside the book. Himmler was a Pagan spiritualist who lamented they couldn't afford to do more to de-christianize and re-Paganize Germany. Julius Evola was a pan-Aryan spiritualist who promoted a return to pre-christian Aryan spirituality. Hitler's mentor Dietrich Ekhart wrote a book about his and Hitler's views on christianity where they basically threw out 95%+ of the bible and rewrote jesus as an Aryan Pagan fighting against judaism (I disagree that jesus can be saved from his jewish roots, but it was a good attempt to de-judaize their religion).

There is no political solution, but there is a spiritual solution, and that is to abandon jew worship and pursue spirituality outside the book. Learn more about the spirituality of your ancestors before jews came along and corrupted them.

[ - ] conrad [op] 1 point 1 yearJun 11, 2024 14:50:28 ago (+2/-1)

None of that will fly in America, maybe in europe, but not here. It's a non-starter.

You have to be practical. Sure you might attract the disaffected criminal element but the upper boundary of your growth will always be limited by looking to past ideologies, simply because of being associated with names and political labels that have a 'bad smell' to the average citizen.
It is important advocate ideas that work while rejecting 'boogieman' labels designed to politically isolate you, even if some of the ideas share a common origin or past.

I do agree spiritual elements are important and thats worth discussing further. Probably working on what people are familiar with, but inserting and creating new american/euro specific doctrine.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 6 points 1 yearJun 11, 2024 14:40:21 ago (+6/-0)

Localism is definitely going to have to be part of the solution. I've got multiple homesteader friends and my local right wing networks are focusing on growing our own food and trying to build the parallel economy. Money is an unfortunate necessity in our banker-run economy but any time you can trade without money or buy from non-banker businesses is an act of resistance.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 3 points 1 yearJun 11, 2024 15:48:30 ago (+3/-0)

any time you can trade without money or buy from non-banker businesses is an act of resistance.

They absolutely hate this shit. Anything they can tax gets reported in the GDP. If you trade some eggs to your neighbor, she gives you a pie, you give her the pie pan and some more eggs, none of that shit is taxed.

And it doesn't count toward GDP. But it does count to making you and your neighbor a better life. She got eggs, you got pie. Goods were exchanged and nobody lost anything to tax.

Expand that to networks where we exchange goods and services with or without money and don't report any of it, we effectively disconnect from the economic machine.

Expand from there into policing, law, and justice and you have yourself an operational no-go zone.

[ - ] SmallGuyFromBrooklyn 1 point 1 yearJun 11, 2024 18:37:56 ago (+1/-0)

One of the reasons the IRS started taxing imputed income and "lost" income is because of this. Sell your house for a fraction of what it costs to your long time friend? IRS says fuck you, you owe taxes on assessed value because you will pay your blood sacrifice. Same with gifts, its all based off assessed value

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 1 yearJun 11, 2024 23:15:57 ago (+0/-0)

And that's how they fuck you with your own property as well. Assessed value on the very home you live in is utter horseshit. You could pay $100 in nails and build your own house and they would tax you far more than that each year based on that assessed value. Which is inherently incentivized to be too high and ever-rising.